r/vexillology • u/kbhina • May 29 '25
Identify Help identify this flag in Germany
Found this flag cut out sticker in the small German town of Irrel. Can someone identify this flag?
Irrel: https://maps.app.goo.gl/NgVkz7ow3FFwUmX3A?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy
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u/kvd_ May 29 '25
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u/Playful_Addition_741 May 29 '25
Its too late socdem, I have already depicted you as the crying wojack and me as the smiling Pepe
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u/Kickerofelves99 May 30 '25
to think somebody getting in a horrible car wreck that leaves their body mangled beyond recognition and the last thing they see is a soyjack pepe vexiology billboard
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u/Siodian May 29 '25
Nazi propaganda worked the same way. "I already depicted myself as the blond Chad and you as the hooknosed crook."
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u/mki_ Austria • Basque Country May 30 '25
Soviet-Chinese Friendship propaganda didn't work that way. Soviet-Chinese Friendship propaganda is homoerotic as hell.
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u/Roothless519 May 29 '25
Not just the nazis... but like 109 countries throughout history
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u/oiramario May 29 '25
that number is oddly specific
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u/31_hierophanto Philippines • Spanish Empire (1492-1899) May 30 '25
It's an antisemitic canard. "109 countries" is apparently the number of countries that kicked out the Jews.
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u/GuyentificEnqueery May 30 '25
I can't stand that these people got 20ish% of the vote.
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u/theindepantmage May 29 '25
Even better, the Pepe is even listed on a long document of nazi symbols and phrases as an example of far right memes as published by the German Verfassungsschutz. They know what they're doing.
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u/DreamFlashy7023 May 30 '25
They try to claim pepe, but pepe was never their property. Dont stop using him or they may be successfull one day.
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u/Cixila May 29 '25
Because the far right has a hard-on for Prussia
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u/Representative_Belt4 Canada May 29 '25
Why can't we just enjoy cool birds without nazis ruining them man
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u/Cixila May 29 '25
That's not even a nazi theft problem, that's a Prussia problem. They did plenty of shit themselves
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May 29 '25
It's a bit of both in Germany's case. because the open display of most Nazi symbols like the Swastika, SS bolts etc. is banned in Germany, German Neo-Nazis (including those associated with the AFD) has co-opted the old symbols used during the Kaisserreich, like the Prussian eagle and Empire's Black-white-red flag etc. and use them as a sort of loop-hole to get around the Anti-Nazi laws.
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u/Cixila May 29 '25
I'm quite aware, I was just saying that even if that wasn't the case, Prussia belongs in the dustbin of history by its own (de)merits, and its symbols should not be celebrated
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May 30 '25
Not completly disagreeing, but frankly, Prussia itself gets a bit more bad rep then it propably deserves. During the time of the enlightenment it was, comperativly, progressive, which was arguably its hayday.
I would argue that it really is the way people saw and see Prussia that does it a lot of disservice. Even in the Empire, Prussia was already somewhat of a meme. Prussia is a prime example of projection of negative and positive stereotypes.
Peoples view of Prussia was really quite influenced by the fact that it came to represent german militarism and, even after the time where it was a singular politic entity, and that Prussia was seen in a lot harsher light than, for example, Britain or France.
The example a professor of mine gave for that stuck. He said that, if something like the Irish Potatoe Famine would have happened not in british-Ireland, but in prussian Poland, there would propably be no debate about calling it a Genocide.
But yeah, in essence, you are right. The point is not that we should gladly slap the Prussian eagly on everything, because all the other european powers did bad shit too, and there is no problem with unian-jacks, danish lions or the french or spanish flag on anything. Maybe the "prussian" approach is the right one when it comes to dealing with this.
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You could say the same about every single global superpower, historical or otherwise.
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u/Sofie_2954 May 29 '25
The argument could be made that you shouldn’t use the Coat of arms of Denmark (Danmarks rigsvåben) because of what they did to the Inuits on Greenland, the Faroese people, the Norwegians and all the other people in their former colonies.
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u/Zephrias May 30 '25
Comparing Greenland to the Faroese Islands, Norway or Iceland is wild. Greenland is more comparable to the Danish West Indies and such. Also, not wanting to celebrate the symbols of an extremely militaristic state is more than understandable.
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u/Sofie_2954 May 30 '25 edited May 31 '25
Was Prussia more militaristic than other European great powers?
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u/MaleficentClassic806 May 29 '25
Well, why would Prussia by any worse than France or Britain of the same time.
We should not let the far right appropriate history, but why should we reject it ourselves.
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u/31_hierophanto Philippines • Spanish Empire (1492-1899) May 30 '25
And the original Nazis literally copied Prussia!
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u/EccoEco May 29 '25
God... They seriously unironically adopted wojaks and pepes in real life is there a limit about how sad and cringe can a party be?
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u/SirNed_Of_Flanders May 29 '25
Ironically one of Prussia’s best kings was gay (Frederick the Great)
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u/PhuqBeachesGitMonee May 29 '25
He was so gay that he made a Royal gay village with no women allowed
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u/LaikaIvanova May 30 '25
It's not confirmed that he was gay, but the situation with von Klatte and some documents heavily suggest it. So much that most historians would agree that he was most likely gay.
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u/DatsunTigger May 30 '25
He also had a relationship with a page that his sister Wilhelmine said was “too personal for a man of his stature”. When his father found out, said page was transferred.
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u/Coteoki May 29 '25
The same party that has a lesbian as leader?
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u/Doc_ET May 29 '25
Her wife is a Sri Lankan immigrant too lmao.
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u/Drumbelgalf May 29 '25
And they hired a syrian cleaning lady without properly registering her...
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u/indolent08 May 30 '25
And she's a German nationalist who...lives in Switzerland. She reacts quite peculiar if asked about it and specifically when it comes to the tax aspect of her living situation.
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u/Sup6969 May 31 '25
And here I thought the German far right hated Switzerland because to them it's a bougie cosmopolitan neoliberal hellscape
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u/TimeRisk2059 May 29 '25
In fairness Ernst Röhm (leader of the nazi Sturm Abteilung) was also homosexual. But he claimed that his form of homosexuality was the "good kind", a warrior's homosexuality among brothers in arms, and not a decadent type of homosexuality among degenerates (which was the "bad kind").
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May 29 '25
So basically he was saying that he's too manly to sleep with a woman?😂😂😂
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u/Madatsune May 29 '25
The main reason he got killed because he was part of the left wing that wanted a violent social revolution and was in control of the largest militia by numbers at the time. But him belonging to a social group the right wing of the Nazi party (which was in control after the purge that killed him) wanted to exterminate didn‘t exactly help his case.
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u/TimeRisk2059 May 29 '25
Yeah, it was more because he was a rival for power that Hitler needed to get rid of to be the unquestioned leader of the nazi party, than his homosexuality, but it certainly didn't help.
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u/paixlemagne United Nations • European Union May 29 '25
Yes. Although she insists she isn't, she just so happens to live with a woman for fifteen years and raise two children with her.
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u/MatsHummus May 29 '25
Afaik she readily calls herself lesbian/homosexual but she doesn't like the word "queer"
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u/Sevenos May 30 '25
Where has she said that? I remember interview questions around her homosexuality, but never an answer saying she isn't.
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u/SomeOneOutThere-1234 Greece • Laser Kiwi May 29 '25
I think that she admits that she’s a lesbian, although as she says “She’s not queer”. The fuck she’s trying to say? This doesn’t make sense
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u/imrduckington May 29 '25
The fuck she’s trying to say
It's a more "respectful" way to say "I might like women but I'm not a f*ggot", you saw similar things with Ernst Rohm and other Nazi gays
Basically for fascists, "queer" has a specific connotation as "effeminate, progressive, degenerate, weak, artistic, and mentally ill", or specifically for lesbians "masculanized, dominant, progressive, and a man hating feminist"
What she's trying to do is separate herself from that image by claiming that while she's into women, she is not part of the queer community her party attacks
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u/PiotrekDG European Union May 29 '25
How about "a hypocrite"?
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u/imrduckington May 29 '25
Yes, but there's a bit more to it than that.
Famously, Ernst Rohm and other Nazi gays thought they were "masculine" for their love of men compared to the "feminine" queers of Berlin
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u/Commercial-Branch444 May 29 '25
This is just plain wrong and shouldnt have reseved 80 upvotes.
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u/Unofficial_Computer May 30 '25
I am willing to bet fifty that she doesn't believe a word that tumbles out of her mouth and is doing this purely for the grift.
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u/SignificantMall1506 May 29 '25
Is this not the Kaiserreich Flagge with the German pride flag from the Afd?
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u/ayebrade69 May 29 '25
LGBTP (P is Prussian)
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u/frfkd1 May 29 '25
and g is german
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u/Atherissss May 29 '25
Luxemburg Germany Berlin Trans-Siberia Prussia
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Luxembourg, Germany, Belgium, The-Netherlands, Prussia, + (the + is Lebensraum)
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u/No_Lavishness_9381 May 30 '25
Luxembourg, Germany, Belgium, The-Netherlands, Prussia, + (the + is Lebensraum)
You mean P for Poland (Anschluss time)
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u/3vr1m May 29 '25
What do you think this flag means if they put it over a 'hate fascism" sticker?
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u/confusionista May 29 '25
But nice that they didn't even manage to cover the message of the sticker underneath
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u/xixbia May 29 '25
It's also clearly a mockery of the LGBTQ flag.
It's pretty obvious what it's about.
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u/OracleofTampico May 29 '25
I am as leftist as they come, I have been to Germany several times but not since 2013. I, with 100% honesty want you to know, i had no idea...
I imagined it could have been a pc gaming thing or a Soccer team insignia. But neither felt right.
The fact that it was over a anti-fascist sticker that i do recognize kept me intrigued but also didnt think much of it because lots of streets in Germany are covered with them.
SO i really did not know until they answered.
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u/Veboy Iran May 29 '25
lmao for real man.
I don't think (or at least don't like to think) the op has ulterior motives, but how naive do you have to be to ask such a question.
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u/NotThreeFoxes May 29 '25
I mean guessing the general vibe doesent mean you instantly understand what exactly something stands for, they probably just wanted to know specifics about It
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u/Sir_Toasti May 30 '25
Looks like far-right propaganda stuff. Designed to look like the LGBT (or what flag?) Probably for provocation
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Definitly a neo-nationalist flag and the owner was probably a fascist-sympathizer when you look at what was under this sticker. Somewhat weird to put the prussian eagle and the german tricolor together as historically those were symbolic for opposed positions but together they are defiinitly supposed to show pride in German history (even if you don't know it well yourself)
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u/JKronich May 29 '25
right ideologies have always revised history to spread their thought
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u/Senumo May 30 '25
Somewhat weird to put the prussian eagle and the german tricolor together as historically those were symbolic for opposed positions
Just shows that those idiots don't actually know what they're rooting for as long as its against "the gay agenda" and "the establishment"
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u/Red_Trapezoid May 29 '25
Modern day fascist Russia is doing the same with their historical symbols.
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u/MinuQu May 29 '25 edited May 29 '25
It is a new flag from the neonazis in Germany. New as in literally just 2 years old. At the beginning of 2023 a far-right German YouTuber and his friends tried to recapture the pride month and make it a nationalist thing, calling it "Stolzmonat" and this gradient German flag became the symbol of it. Goal was that instead of pride content, the public discourse would be flooded with an organized barage of homophobic and transphobic postings. Some of the more edgy and radical ones added the black and white triangle with the Prussian eagle you can see here. It was pushed extremely by Twitter's algorithm and especially the AfD instantly jumped onto it, high-profile politicians posting this flag and including it in their profile picture. In the end, it had just a limited success and it mostly just stayed in this far-right echo chamber.
You'll probably find older versions of it which predate 2023 because the concept isn't that creative, but it only became wide-spread after this. It is fascinating though, that the person who made the sticker didn't even attempt to cut it out cleanly.
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u/FB_100 May 30 '25
I think this exact design is from 2023, because I found a Reddi post with this exact design from the first of June 2023, that also includes versions for GB and France in the Post and Versions for Scandinavia, Italy, Greece, Portugal and others in the Comments, so I think, that the user from this Post created them, because the ones in the comments seem to be made after someone asks for them, but I can't guarantee it is the case.
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u/xSilverMC May 29 '25
The beautiful part is that someone not connected to the neonazi pricks was able to trademark the term and sold pro queer stuff under it (and might've been able to c&d the neonazis, but that part's a bit foggy)
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u/UnityJusticeFreedom May 29 '25
AfD shit
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I was so dissapointed to hear this was a neo-nazi flag, i saw it and thought haha funny german version of the pride flag before hearing it was associated with nazi-ism
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u/FrisianTanker May 29 '25
It's basically a Neonazi symbol. Anyone who uses this kind of flag is a far right extremist and homophobe
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u/neoplatonistGTAW May 29 '25
I'm no expert but given that it's got an eagle and is placed over an anti-fascist action sticker, I'm guessing it's probably got something to do with liking fascism.
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u/xSilverMC May 29 '25
It was a sad attempt by neonazis to "reclaim" pride month. It failed miserably.
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u/lilLvsse May 29 '25
Rip it off, the sticker below has a reason to be there if this sticker is over it.
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u/Carlie2406 May 29 '25
But be careful when you rip it off, sometimes these assholes put razor blades under the stickers
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u/mindhaq May 29 '25
Next time you see one remove it for better investigation and to make the one below more visible.
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u/AdeptTea5454 May 29 '25
Yeah that flag means „I am a right wing asshole not worth talking to“
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u/Superdupernadja May 29 '25
its an anti-lgbtq neo royalist flag. „for the emperor!!!!“ (the emperor is a 49 yo neckbeard called günter, who has his own handmade passport, and collects nazi merch)
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Oh man, we've come a long way. These guys were "If you're gay, vote AfD" and now they're going all out.
It's understandable that it's plastered on an Antifa sticker, since Antifa is heavily left leaning and very anti nazi/anti fascist (the name is Antifaschistische Aktion, I mean... duh) but now they had the Prussian Flag on top of German flag in the very same way pride flag is made.
So I guess the joke here is "Our country is founded by Prussia, it united all germans and we are proud of it/being German" but I still have no idea why it had to be like the pride flag. Are these guys not in support of LGBT movement? They also suggested "hey, how about we get rid of the pride month and celebrate Stolzmonat instead" (as in "I'm a proud German") The political landscape is shifting faster than I can follow.
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u/CaptainPoset May 29 '25
It's one of the campaign flags of the "Stolzmonat" (translation of "pride month" by the letter into German), which was/is a AfD (German MAGA-equivalent, Putin-admirers) anti-LGBTIQ hate-campaign.
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u/no-divide-111 May 30 '25
german nationalism in the most offensive way possible to both lgbt and people who love their country. afd shooting itself in the foot like it always does and should.
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u/SadCalligrapher78 May 30 '25
Sure looks like grey and white is trying to overtake all the colour.
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u/Bitter_Water5298 May 31 '25
this is definitely white supremacist shit. the horizontal lines are clearly to represent the flag of germany, and the other lines are scaled from white to black. its using the same style as recent LGBTQIA + flags of which the non-horizontal lines are supposed to indicate progress forward. the message seems to be that germany can only progress forward only under the guidance of straight white men. also, the flag is clearly attempting to cover up an anti-fascism message which clearly tells us that these assholes are fascist
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u/Far-Caregiver-8201 Jun 01 '25
The fact that it's posted over an antifa sticker should be enough of a clue.
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u/PaydayLover69 May 30 '25
it makes me so mad that people are just tolerating that Nazism is normalized and popular again.
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u/Elyvagar May 29 '25
Called "Stolzflagge" literal german translation of "pride flag".
Its used by patriots and nationalists on the political right in Germany to push back against LGBTQ.
They usually start appearing around pride month to symbolize that you don not support the LGBTQ movement.
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u/xSilverMC May 29 '25
patriots
Yeah, so patriotic to push russian interests in your own country's parliament /s
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It's the symbolism of some campaign by the AfD (german fascist party) to spread national pride and mock people of the LGBTQ community. It's called "Stolzmonat" wich litteraly translates to pridemonth. Also their are often sentences like "Schwarz, rot, gold ist bunt genug" (Black, red, gold is colourful enough) along with it.
It's mostly on the internet and a lot of german Nazi accounts engaged with that flag. It also is frequently used as PfP often with some sort of "🇩🇪🦅✝️" along it.
Anyways: it's fascist crap, and please be careful should you do the right thing an remove it: Some of these fucks put razor blades under their stickers.
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u/elgattox Chile May 29 '25
German pride flag, mock of LGBTQ pride, but with nationalism. I believe it was made by AfD.
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u/3vanW1ll1ams May 29 '25
Some info about Stolzmonat for those who are curious. In short, AfD hate bullshit.
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u/Ok_Repeat8629 May 30 '25
Hurensohnflagge müsste das sein, wenn ich mich recht entsinne
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u/Positive-Purple-9204 May 30 '25
Wie lustig das Alice Weidel verheiratet mit einer Frau ist, einfach die dümmste Partei der Welt 😂
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u/DaGayEnby May 30 '25
If I didn’t get it wrong it’s a right-extremist „German pride“ flag. It’s used to mock lgbtq
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u/Frequent_Stick137 May 30 '25
It's called "Stolzflagge" (literally proud flag) and it is a pathetic attempt by the right to allude to the pride flag thing
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u/Fredrich- May 30 '25
That poor eagle does not deserve getting slammed into that awful adobe illustrator gradient flag
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u/UheldigeBenny May 30 '25
It's sad to see this direction a big part of Germany is developing towards.







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