It's definitely different, im good at land nav in real life but it didn't transfer hardly at all to the game. I picked it up a lot faster than most do but it's still quite different.
I only do that when Iām going DEEP behind enemy lines, but Iāll usually switch it for an enemy pack once Iāve deployed the gear that Iāve brought.
I blame the horrendous clothing mods out there. The camos NEVER look good, the shirts NEVER look good, the pants NEVER look good, vests are never the right colour, nothing matches with one another, 200 balaclava options yet you'll only get US camos that look awful. These modern clothing mods are just awful lol.
I could never enjoy them because I found them to be too complicated. I would scroll through what seemed to be hundreds of items and could never figure out what matched with what. Then if I forgot to save my loadout I'd have to do it all over again. I wish we had a 'basic' modern day mod.
Thatās me with all these suppressors and optics. I can never see exactly what I need to suppress my MK18 as any other 5.56 ar one apparently does not work
while there def. are bad or low quality clothing mods, what you are saying is overstatment. There are many great mods that add a big variety of high quality camos from different nations, and which are easily matched or mixed
Not like it's a problem for non-console players but modding downloads also take obscenely long for us and all the clothing mods are more nonsense to chug through.
The only mod I really really really reaaaally want in vanilla is the ability to remove trees and bushes. I can make a base ridiculously secure with just a shovel. You see bush wookies move on to softer targets if you remove their natural habitat
Also fun note. There are a few absolutely indestructible trees scattered about. Most have colored FIA directions on then but a couple ...nothing takes them down.
Ive tried it but its inefficient and only mortars remove bushes. At least in my testing. I tested a lot but I could have always missed something. Landmines often knocked trees down but weren't consistent and plastic explosives wouldnt remove the big trees.
I have been known to go crazy and mortar the fuck out of hill top at military hospital and coastal bases mortan and chotain.
Most efficient way to remove cover is first by hand take down ONLY bushes, then any trees near rocks and any big fucker trees. I know what they look like because they stop vehicles. Then using a vehicle run the trees over. Im particular those Shaggy furs that spawn at the edges of forests and any low tree that blocks line of sight.
The vehicles that are best for tree clearing in order of efficacy. Lav, BTR, utility truck, brdm-2. Brdm is superior to the utility truck at clearing small trees but gets hung up in the big ones just as easily and costs more
doing this with a mod would definitely be cheating on just about any server fyi, concealment is just as important as cover in this game with the shadows we've got compared to 3
Its a standard mod on almost every moded server (ACE Chopping). All you need is a shovel. And its is important which is why I remove it.
One of my favorite things to hear is "wtf happened to the trees." In a about 90 minutes ive caused besieged bases to stop being so besieged by just chopping down the bushes and low trees. Especially harassing forces in the back lines.
Heck give me 30 minutes at coastal base Morton and I'll stop almost all the sniping from across the bay
oh yeah, that's definitely a different story though- seems like he meant a mod that just removes all the textures to just the client side which would be a huge advantage. i love chopping down trees too lmfao
Won't move bushes though at least in my testing I couldn't. Also nothing detonated mortar round except firing it.
About half of all trees can be taken down with just plastic explosives the rest require landmines. Also landmines are inconsistent in which trees they knock down. Inside their demolition radius unless they are right next to a tree they may or may not knock it down. Using three landmines placed in a triangle about 5 feet apart seems to overcome this randomness. But im still left with the bushes which are the real issue.
So I put down lots of toe toppers and little red flags. Still get complaints about them
Slight flaw identified. Lit up a smoke on break during patrol and got obliterated by mortar and machine gun fire. Plz nerf visibility distance of glow from lit cigs.
I dont like it because it encourages lonewolf behavior. Can't take a whole base on by yourself if everyone knows where you are when you shoot. Every game with suppressors feels like a game of hide and seek rather than a mil Sim.
Camped a man with a 14.5mm (in modded where there are 30mms) shooting all his helis down one time he divebombed me until the bong smoke cleared he realised that he had no rockets left and his heli was already damaged from me dumping my 14.5mm into himā¦ He proceeded to pull up late and explode next to me sliding into the river. :) He thought he was Top gun
Tbh idk why it's off because I have shot a friendly maybe twice in my entire time playing that server. My biggest gripe is it lets heli fuckers spam objective as it's under attack
My personal favorite thing to do (once Iāve built up my rank a bit) is to grab a sniper, m72 LAW, about 12 sandbags, and about 14 AP mines.
I have one of my buddies give me a chopper lift (and one or two others if they feel like going with, carrying AP and AT mines) WAY behind enemy lines.
I personally like walking up through the back line to be able to observe where the enemy is hauling supplies and what is vulnerable, meanwhile staying pretty much entirely undetected.
Set up the really low sandbag walls across the road like a speed bump, with AP mines covering the ditches before and after it. Utilize this to ambush trucks, while small vehicles hitting it at high speeds die outright.
The LAW is used on Helicopters and Enemy Armor.
Takes far less supplies than many of the other loadouts, and lets me scavenge gear from my fallen enemies to great effect.
I often cause enough disruption to the enemy, that they bring entire squads and air support to hunt me down. Itās always the peak of my night hearing them on their radio (which I looted from a kill) not being able to find me while I am super close to them, or keeping them pinned down.
I've not played with NVG's yet as I typically run Vanilla. Even without them though, night raids are ridiculously fun. There's nothing more enjoyable than running grenade launcher and suppressor, hiking to an enemy base, and wreaking havoc on everyone inside while they desperately shoot into the wrong bush.
1000%, the only thing harder than a normal gunfight is a gunfight where you can't see shit. The only deciding factor in a situation like that is who can keep more composed in all the chaos.
The best is when the enemy use flares and it doesn't help them at all. Just running around like ants while your squad is in the bushes taking them out.
No one needs anything, people just go and have fun. You can use vanilla weapons on modded too and slap with them, no one is stopping you.
I never really got the opposite. Modded players seem to be pretty chill, they create their kits, go about their day, do missions.. while vanilla purists, especially on Reddit, have this intrinsic urge to constantly blurt out how superior vanilla is, lol. Like who cares, let me build my stupid tacticool gun, what's it to you? š
thatās a skill issue because you donāt know how to use the ingame menu to filter for compatible mags man. always players like this whining about menus when youāre the problem lmao. click i when hovering over the rifle, click on the mag spot, boom, compatible mags are filtered. aim to learn more than you complain š
Any good vanilla server recommendations, every one i join seems to be a catastrophe with no direction, either nobody talking or everyone screaming on the radio, 20+ squads of 1 guy etc
It is but I have noticed a balancing recently. In the sense that the non-base building, no supply running, no comms using etc etc merchants are moving to the Soviet team.
I love going into those modded servers running M81, Alice Kit a boonie hat and an m14 with irons. Just to dunk on some airsoft larper with a Zennit AK with a bunch of useful shit like a radio, where I take said radio and use their shit coms to decode their map positions.
For example, the say "enemy helicopter landing at Muskat"
Muskat has to be airfield because that's the only place there's a friendly helicopter.
Then repeat over and over again until you decode the whole map in less than 30 mins because no one understands opsec at all lol.
I love being generic solider man I love have too much stuff but at the same time I donāt have enough I love looking like all my buddies I love my squad I love land nav and I donāt need gimmicks to have fun and be deadly
I hate the modern modded servers not because theyāre modern but because theyāre so jank compared to official servers. If u need a big arrow on the map telling you where you are GET UP OUT MY TRAP HOUSE!!!!!!! BIIIIITCHHHH!!!!
Whenever I play vanilla it always just ends up with everyone at monti with no clothes on while some hacker smites everyone with lightning id rather just run flecktarn in a modded server and call it a day
Seems to do me just fine tbh, especially if im playing point i just pick up 7 8 mags and if I need to ressuply i either pick up enemy weapons and ammo or wait to cap points and re supply on the armoury before moving objectives. I could count on one hand times where ive been stranded and completely empty of ammo and itās not many at all over the 8 ish months ive been properly playing. Think itās really dependant on what youāre doing, if your defending a big point or setting up an ambush deep behind lines then yeah take ten to make sure you donāt run out, i just donāt feel itās necessary to take that many when you get so much opportunity to ressuply
I seriously stopped playing because all the servers that I played switched to using mods and the official servers have such a low player count that it just becomes boring, instead of long and frequent firefights and the need to defend it just becomes a walking fest on who can capture stuff faster
I love Reforger, but I hate the way a huge portion of the community wants to play the game. No hate to those people, each their own, but I personally want a platoon milsim, not tactical cosplay.
I also wish you vanilla players would play a game mode that focused on one or two objectives at a time, like Squadās RAAS. Itās just not that fun to me if you spread a single platoon across a huge island. Weāre just playing hide and seek at that point.
Iām playing Squad wishing I was playing Reforger instead but at least I can reliably get some squad-level firefights going in Squad.Ā
I agree with what you said other than the game mode point. Personally, much more a fan of the whole "do your own thing with your squad" aspect rather than being forced to take certain points. Gives you much more freedom for your plans than the other way does. If I want something more focused, like you, I'll just play Squad instead.
Reforger feels more relaxed and I prefer the game engine. But I just get tired of hide and seek gameplay. The only way to get reliable squad and platoon-level firefights going in public games is to coax players into converging on fewer objectives. The whole deep infiltration thing thatās so popular isnāt gameplay I want.Ā
I hate joining an unofficial server that downloads a bunch of random crap onto your mod list and everyone is running around like tacticool Airsoft cosplayers.
Vanilla is ok but this horseshit is awful play with people that like realism. The group of guys I play with doesnāt tolerate two primary guns and has roles to play medic, pilot, lmg etc
My modded kit is deadass just a scoped PKM and a few rpgs added on top of the stock camo. It baffles me that mfs take half an hour at arsenal when I can score better than them with a kit made in 5 minutes and a dream
This is one thing that causes a disconnect for me with Reforger.
Comparing A3's modded servers to Reforger's and I still see vanilla uniforms and aemor all the time, it's JUST vehicles and guns (though modded guns have the same issue as Modded reforger, PUT, THE OVERMODDED, RAILSLOP FAL DOWN, GRAB AN MX!)
100 hrs on vanilla first before even touching moddedā¦I miss vanilla but getting friends to come off WCS mods and spawning on worn backpacks might be the hardest sell.
I want to love vanilla so badly, but the constant teamkilling and shitty Supply system makes vanilla almost unplayable, also no one talks. is it worth doing a milsim at this point (pc)
You inspect your weapon, or any piece of equipment while you have the arsenal open. It will literally show you every compatible attachment for each slotā¦
I love how to a non gear guy, he looks at some wanna be spec ops kit and goes āyea $1000 is probably the cost on the high end full kitā
Man I wish you were right
Vanilla is the GOAT. Me and two buddies of mine met on a Vanilla server and we ran as a LAV crew for months. We drifted over the last month or so, as the LAV driver buddy re enlisted, and our navigator buddy is busy with real life, as am I. Hopefully one day we can run it back, Arma Reforger is truthfully some of the most fun gaming Ive ever had
Itās a computer game so a kill is conceivably achievable at any distance with any particular weapon mod.
Sniping little pixels from 1200m doesnāt seem that fun or challenging.
I only will play WCS and a little bit of Spearhead, Vanilla just bored me too much because I like a sandbox style game. Spearhead has too much stuff sometimes but is pretty good with realism (not outfits). WCS is the perfect mix of arcade and realism, and matches get intense.
Vanilla is just to flavorless for me, I like the modern weaponry and helicopters and drones.
The ānever fires their secondaryā is bs. I wiped a squad sized element in the bush, completely alone as they spawned on their friendly radio backpack-
This game has just made me realize that modern stuff just sucks. Multicam is lame, high speed low drag gear is lame, super modded mlock guns are lame.
Maybe itās just getting older but the 90s-2010s just had super cool looking kit.
PVS 5s could be a captain rank unlock and PVS 7s major, to balance soviets can get the 1pn58 scope for the 74N and PKMN at sergeant, which while is night vision its massive and useless during day.
Do you want to play a milsim game or tactical Barbie? I can count on one hand the number of modded servers that donāt devolve into people standing in spawn for 3 hours getting their loadouts just right to operator larp, not coordinating with their team at all while they look like something out of a Call of Duty gameĀ
Itās no business of mine, but that doesnāt mean I canāt have and share an opinion on it. If it was as insignificant as youāre saying though, you wouldnāt have bothered to reply.Ā
My only problem with vanilla is the map, it is really difficult for me as a casual to navigate, although the idea of vanilla gameplay appeals to me much more than modded, are there any vanilla servers with map enabled?
In map enabled i mean i can always see where I am at the map.
Missing the point of the post my guy. Half the fun of Vanilla is bombing around in a jeep with a crew hilariously trying to figure out where they are until you accidentally role into a full blown firefight.
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u/mob1us0ne Apr 28 '26
I FUCKING LOVE LAND NAV!