r/southafrica Feb 05 '26

Discussion South Africans that love Trump but hate Zuma don't care about rape, corruption, or criminality, just the skin colour of the criminal.

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To wit:

  1. Both have rape charges hanging over their heads.
    1. Except Trump has a conviction.
  2. Both have used the office to enrich themselves to the tune of millions - if not billions.
  3. Both have criminal convictions.
  4. Both have soup for brains.
  5. Both have incited insurrection.
  6. Both are hostile to the press.
  7. Both are hostile to democracy.
  8. Both are hostile to the rule of law.
  9. Both are mentioned in the Epstein files.
    1. Except Trump was buddy-buddy with Epstein.
  10. Both have sold their governments to the highest bidder.
  11. Both have engaged in racist, sexist, and/or homophobic rhetoric.

The main difference is that at least we know that Zuma showers while Trump seems to just marinate in a diaper full of shit.

So either MAGA South Africans have a preference for poopy diapers over showers, or the main factor that triggers them is that Zuma, a black man, had the audacity to play a white man's game.

This is also true for people who love Zuma but hate Trump.

At least Zuma has some actual liberation credentials to his name.

r/southafrica 20d ago

Discussion save robberg

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my fellow south africans, i feel that it is our duty to stop this from happening. please consider signing the petition, the deadline is 15 May 2026.

Save Robberg

r/southafrica Feb 09 '25

Discussion Reality check from a White Afrikaans farmer.

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So by now, I think that this topic is on everyone’s lips. South Africa has been buzzing since president Ramaphosa signed the EWC bill.

I have a question: Are the white Afrikaans farmers really unwanted in South Africa?

Let me elaborate, and I know I cannot be speaking for everyone. But I can speak for myself. I grew up on our family farm and learned the basics of farming from a very young age. I have never supported any form of apartheid, and never will. My grandfather was a white afrikaans farmer who was an activist against apartheid. The family farm was eventually sold to the government and I have not received a cent of the money the farm was sold for (I was not entitled to receive anything) but, I’ve had the privilege of marrying into a family where my father in law gave me the opportunity to be able to farm.

My father in law started from a bankrupt position and managed to rent a farm in 1985. Through years of dedication and hard work, he eventually managed to get into the financial position to buy the farm he was renting. From there, he continued his success story to where he is today, being in a position where he could offer me the opportunity which I am extremely grateful.

Today, I have 10 black employees on the farm. Some of them who have shown loyalty and dedication have received livestock from me, and have their own herd of animals of which we take care of as if they were our own. No strings attached. They could sell them at any time if they so wished, but are limited to a certain number. My point is. On my farm, we try to uplift the lives of the people who work for us. We share the resources. Free housing, free vegetables, free eggs, free meat, free milk and on top of that, we allow them to run their own animals on the farm, free of charge. All we ask for in return, is dedication, commitment and loyalty. And in doing so, everyone’s animals thrive. And when the animals thrive, the farm thrives. If the farm thrives, all of us thrives. Yes, the bulk of the money generated on the farm comes to us, but that money then literally gets ploughed back into the farm so that we can all have a better life.

I do not view my black “employees” as employees. I view them as part of our farm family. Everyone working hand in hand together, so that we can all have a better future and opportunities.

Now my reality check. Do these people who live and work with us every day, really want us as white farmers to leave South Africa? When I mentioned this to my foreman, his eyes shot full of tears and he asked me: “Mlungu, what will become of us if you go?” So I think the answer to this question is satisfied. My next question: Is it not time that the ANC get onto the farms and have their own reality check with the people on ground level? Who has lost touch with reality here? The white farmers? Or the ANC?

We will not be going anywhere. We will stay. We have a responsibility and a commitment towards our fellow South Africans to put food on everyone’s tables. To uplift the people we work with so hard, everyday to make the farm successful.

I cannot help everyone in this country, but I can do my part for the people who work the land with me. Even under relentless political and economic pressure.

Sometimes though, I ask myself. What are we doing it for? Maybe the black South Africans really do not want us here. Maybe it is time to move and to rebuild a different future somewhere else for our children.

A concerned white afrikaans farmer.

r/southafrica Oct 06 '24

Discussion Stop Chris Brown's Performance in South Africa

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My fellow South Africans, I’d appreciate your attention to this important matter. If you could also inform your friends and family, it would greatly assist the cause. Here is the link to the article above: https://www.news24.com/life/arts-and-entertainment/celebrities/petition-to-stop-chris-browns-johannesburg-concert-gains-momentum-as-activists-demand-ban-20241003

As some of you are aware Chris Brown is said to be performing in Johannesburg on the 14th of December.

Chris has a history of domestic violence. Here is an article that reiterates this: https://www.news24.com/life/arts-and-entertainment/celebrities/chris-browns-dark-past-domestic-violence-documentary-explores-stars-controversies-and-scandals-20241003

Unfortunately, it's behind a paywall, and I can't access it. If anyone has access, please share a few snippets with the class (not the entire article). More importantly, I want everyone to know that since the Rihanna scandal, he has faced multiple assault and sexual assault allegations.

Women for Change, the group behind the petition, have been generous enough to provide a brief summary of his history on their page. If you're unable to access the article and need further persuasion on the importance of this petition:

'Chris Brown's History of Violence Against Women

Chris Brown has a well-documented history of violence towards several women. In 2009, he was convicted of brutally assaulting his then-girlfriend, Rihanna, a case that sparked global outrage. Despite his conviction, his troubling behaviour has continued, with multiple accusations of violence against other women, with 'Quiet on Set' Producers Announce the 'Chris Brown: A History of Violence'  Documentary, which will premiere this October.'

I urge that we sign the petition : https://www.change.org/p/stop-chris-brown-from-performing-in-south-africa-no-stage-for-abusers

If you're able to also pay R30 which will distribute this petition 150 times to potential supporters. [It not required tho]

So please share to as many people you can or else Tokoloshe is coming for u (jk)

Thanks guys 🤍

r/southafrica 16d ago

Discussion Afrikaners in the US

348 Upvotes

Hi there! I’m an elementary school teacher in the United States looking for some clarification.

I got a new student from South Africa this year who I believe was brought over because of Trump’s refugee program for white South Africans. The student has made some concerning racist comments to me a couple of times (interracial marriage is weird, Black people dress badly, etc.) I obviously told the student these comments are completely unacceptable. I know they are likely repeating things their parents have said, so I’m trying not to view them differently, but it’s not something I am used to hearing.

I know a bit about the history of South Africa and that they’re having issues with farm attacks, but I guess I’m just wanting some more context. Are these racist attitudes pretty normal among white people in South Africa today? Or is it a minority? Is there any good way to navigate this situation? Anyone else experienced this before? Would appreciate any insight.

r/southafrica Feb 07 '26

Discussion What the heck is this?!

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554 Upvotes

I was craving some Romany Creams since I haven't had them in a while, probably over a year or two. Bought a box from Checkers just to open it and find these pebbles! I know I'm not crazy because there was definitely a time where I couldn't casually fit a whole one in my mouth! And I would savour every bite of that rich, chocolatey goodness with that touch of coconut lingering in mouth for a good while. It was kind of addictive.

Now, I just pop them like Tic Tacs. It tastes so chalky and doughy and the aftertaste is horrible, like a mix of flour and that cheap waxy chocolate. After having a few, that aftertaste became too much and I chucked the rest of the box in the bin. I knew shrinkflation was bad, but this is just next level. And they are so freakin' expensive these days. I'm so sad and disappointed. I used to love Romany Creams so much.

r/southafrica Mar 11 '26

Discussion What culture is White English South Africans?

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This is a question I've had for many years now and I really don't want to offend anyone by asking it. I am honestly just curious.

This question is specifically about those people who were born and raised here, not immigrants.

Every other group in South Africa seem to have their own culture; Boere, Zulu etc.

So my question is: what 'people' do white english south africans identify as? Are you British South Africans? And what cultural beliefs/values/world outlooks do your people have? (As a Boer, my 'culture' includes things like Braaivleis, calling older men and women 'oom en tannie', we are known to be stubborn etc)

r/southafrica Mar 12 '25

Discussion Passport bros and stereotypes about the women in our country are ruining things

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This is going to be a bit of a rant, sorry. But we just got banned from another hotel and I'm absolutely fuming for the victim.

I work part time as a travel agent of sorts and I just made the link between passport bros and why my company is being banned from using certain service providers.

I'm the person that books activities for tourists to go watch animals sleeping under trees on game drives and take bicycle rides in Maboneng and ride the dunes in Cape Town and I've been doing this for a few years now so I have had the misfortune of working with a lot of international travellers.

I'm also the one that deals with the backlash from the companies that supply us with these activities because of said travellers.

A couple of times, I've seen posts on TikTok and Twitter about how beautiful our people are and I always thought they were compliments even though some of them were a bit crude but I didn't think there'd be a real life effect from them.

I now have a list of 13 (and counting) companies from resorts to spa's to tour guides and tasting rooms that I can no longer use because our travellers have harassed their staff and other patrons because the internet told them that women here are "accessible" and "packed" and "very easy" and it's wreaking havoc on my books and the women in those companies now having to deal with the harassment.

Allegedly, these travellers (specifically from the US and Europe, read: Holland) come here with the expectations of doing a few touristy things while mostly engaging in sex tourism and we are most definitely not the country for that because one thing our people will tell a foreigner is exactly where to get off (rightfully so, in this content).

It seems like these internet things, coupled with our unemployment rate, are giving more and more travellers the idea that desperation runs rife and the women (from all races) will just bend over after being flashed a few euros and swoon over the accents, which is seriously PMO but there's nothing I can actually do.

So guys, I'm begging you. If you come across an "appreciative" video that's along the lines of "why are SA women so packed?", please shut it down. We already have a human trafficking problem and I'm pretty sure such videos only put new targets on our backs. And now, those perceptions are affecting companies as well, which hurts tourism for the ones that genuinely just want to touch cheetahs and hike up Table Mountain.

The long term effects of these stereotypes are going to be a serious problem for us to deal with. Just look at how Jamaica is now well known for sex tourism. We really don't want to be perceived for such as well 🤧.

r/southafrica Sep 16 '25

Discussion Braai season is coming… what’s the most controversial braai opinion you’re willing to die on a hill for?

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387 Upvotes

Braai Talk🔥

r/southafrica Feb 28 '25

Discussion TRUMP TERMINATED USAID FUNDING TO SOUTH AFRICA.

632 Upvotes

Turned on eNCA and saw that Trump stopped USAID. I don't know how folks who rely on on the aforementioned for meds and treatment are going to manage especiallywith the cost of living. This is absolutely heartbreaking, moreso because it's such a minuscule percentage of US budget (from what I understand) AND is invaluable to the well being of South African citizens suffering from HIV and AIDS.

Should communities and business perhaps start a fund to help out?

What do you think this will do to our political standing? Especially with regard to BRICS.

Also, seriously; fuck Trump and DOGE.

Edit: It's not just South Africa's funding that was cut. 5800 projects around the world will also loose USAID funding.

Here's a link to an article courtesy of u/anib.

https://bhekisisa.org/health-news-south-africa/2025-02-27-breaking-trump-orders-usaid-funded-hiv-organisations-in-sa-to-shut-down/

r/southafrica Jan 31 '26

Discussion Jacob Zuma in the Epstein files NSFW

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From the latest file release: Mark Lloyd is a British socialite and power broker, and someone whose name pops up in Epstein's emails quite often but whose exact relationship is unknown. He is the man seen next to Epstein in the creepy Disneyland pictures.

In 2010, Lloyd held a dinner for then-president JZ at the Ritz--likely the Ritz London hotel during Zuma's UK state visit that year. Lloyd and Epstein are in the emails discussing how they procured a young Russian model named Vera for the party. Epstein brags to/invites British associate Peter Mandelson.

Later, Epstein received two emails from unknown guests who seem to have been impressed by both Zuma and Vera.

r/southafrica Nov 06 '25

Discussion Men, what's going on?

550 Upvotes

I am a woman and everytime I have recieved assistance from a man it starts off well and ends uncomfortably. Last year I had delays in receiving my license disc via courier, I called the company in question and I eventually got my delivery now tell me why later that day I recieve whatsapp messages asking to meet up, this has happened when I needed help at Unisa, it happened again when I was buying a car and when I was at home affairs. In some instances I must admit I do play along, but only until my query gets resolved.

My question is why is being professional so hard for you? Why are you flirting with your customers? Why are you using our numbers for personal things?

Edit: Maybe I wasn't clear, I do not initiate flirting. I play along because I don't think the person will continue to help me if I tell them to f*ck off.

Playing along usually looks like smiling and being polite, not making plans for drinks

r/southafrica Feb 15 '26

Discussion When did this kak get so expensive

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643 Upvotes

r/southafrica 13d ago

Discussion Mel and Peet Viljoen from SA celebreties to USA criminals detained by ICE! 🙄🙈

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504 Upvotes

Does everyone recall these two? They became well-known in South Africa for opening Tammy Taylor Nails franchises, only to land themselves in hot water for allegedly taking millions from people and never delivering on their promises. They even ended up on Carte Blanche for their scams.

​After that, Mel Viljoen secured a spot on The Real Housewives of Pretoria, portraying a perfect life of luxury and riches. Meanwhile, her husband claimed to be an attorney, despite actually being disbarred years ago.

​Eventually, they left South Africa for the USA, only to end up arrested there. It was all caught on police bodycam—apparently, they had been stealing groceries over a period of months, and both were ultimately detained by ICE!

​When will people learn that crime doesn't pay and that it will eventually catch up with them? I just walked into Spar and saw this by the till. I’m not rejoicing in their downfall, but rather rejoicing that some justice is finally being served for all the people they conned and stole from back home!

Edit: https://youtu.be/gplHijWUCas?si=wjZOCX4DW4NEcDHq

Link to the bodycams of their arrests 👆

r/southafrica Jan 01 '26

Discussion Getting fed up of being nickled and dimed by FNB. Alternatives?

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361 Upvotes

I've been with FNB for 20 plus years. I used to be a super fan and would always recommend them.

I've had 5 car loans, 3 home loans, all my shares, savings, everything with them through the years. All my business accounts are with them. Everything.

But I'm getting fed up with all these micro charges for processing international payments. These aren't conversion fees, these are all hidden costs tacked onto your purchase two weeks later for processing the listed ZAR payment.

On my business side, Cashflow ebbs and flows. On some months when customers are slow to pay, I run into debit order issues. The money is usually in the bank a day later, but FNB still charges R150 fees PER debit order that bounces. A few months ago I had nearly R3K in debit order fees because customers paid late. The money was in the account a day later, minus the R3K in fees FNB levied. I reached out to our business banker because it's a bit ridiculous, and maybe the fees could be waived that month, but she just shrugged and couldn't do anything.

So I'm here asking you if all the banks charge these micro fees on every international purchase? Who do you recommend?

My needs are online banking, decent service, low banking fees (both personal and business) and not being charged two percent for looking in the mirror twice.

r/southafrica Feb 11 '25

Discussion I want you to consider normalising giving people lifts

417 Upvotes

One of the privileges afforded to me is that I have a car. The ultimate symbol of freedom. I can go where I want, when I want.

Every day, like many of you, I drive past those that need a lift. These aren't hitchhikers in the strict sense of the term, these are people that need to get places, with no other good options.

In each of their hands is a pitiful R10, or R20... A token of their desperation, an acknowledgement of the costs.

A month ago I gave a lift to a 50 year old frail women, nowhere close to any spot where others would usually congregate. She was escaping her abusive husband, to go stay with her son. Her entire being smelt of cheap wine, a smell I can't stand. Yet here she sat, telling me the story. I'm a kind ear for a moment, I stick a R50 in her hands. and I drop her off. I make her commit to going to the police... I know she won't.

This morning I gave a lift to a young man far from home. The job he had here didn't work out quite well, and he needed to get to a Shoprite to buy a bus-ticket back home. He sheepishly tried to give me the R10 he had in his hands, but I told him to keep it. He's going to get a cooldrink with it.

Neither of these people matter to me in the strict sense of it. I will forget them soon.

To them though, I'm a samaritan. Something I want to be, and want to be known for.

If you can, and if you feel safe, and if it makes sense - I implore you to consider giving people lifts. Somewhere along the 90's we decided that it's too dangerous and stupid... but it's not. It's one of the easiest little things you can do, to make someone else's day so much better.

I mean ... If you're heading that direction already, why not?

Edit: The tribe has spoken. I'm a virtue-signalling naive idiot who is going to die very soon. I'll keep everything for posterity.

r/southafrica May 22 '25

Discussion Genocide?

380 Upvotes

There are claims that there is a genocide taking place in South Africa and I think the fact that the US is adamantly propagating this propagandistic narrative is more reason not to trust them.

Furthermore, I am disappointed in Trump's refusal to at least consider Ramaphosa's sentiments during yesterday's meeting. He seems to be both gullible and ignorant.

I should finally mention that I am deeply hurt by our fellow white South Africans who are proudly reinforcing these claims of genocide. I know that our country is run by an incompetent and self-serving government that seems to not have any concerns about economic development. However, seeing a cohort of white people take the stance of validating that there is a genocide is painful to witness.

As someone born post apartheid, I'm finally starting to see.

r/southafrica May 01 '24

Discussion What is happening in south Africa???!!!

550 Upvotes

Grocery prices has been steadily rising since COVID, but the last few months is just RIDICULOUS!!!

First eggs went up by over 100% almost overnight supposedly due to bird flue, now this month (more like 3 weeks) milk has gone up from R29.99 per 2L to R39.99 per 2L !!!

It went up to R32.99 a couple of weeks ago, and was still R32.99 on Sunday, but today I nearly had an aneurysm when I saw the price was R39.99!

That is basically a 40% increase in a month!

How are people going to afford to live with prices going up so much so fast?

I am lucky, and will start getting milk from the local dairy for about 1/2 the price of store bought (and I will also be making delicious, real butter that won't even cost me more than the price of the milk).

I recon we should all get in contact with our local farmers to help them out, and save a buck or two.

r/southafrica 1d ago

Discussion I scratched my mom's car, Advice.

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I scratched my mom's, now I need advice.

I was preparing for an interview but the house was loud, so I took the car without asking so I could go somewhere quiet and prepare there. The spot I thought of had some people there so I decided to drive back.

While driving back I scratched the car, now I don't know what to do. The problem is this is not the first time, I've done this stupid shit before once.

I'm thinking of running away from my problems if it wasn't for the interview and somethings I've planned for today and tomorrow, I would have left by now, called her on the phone and informed her of what I did, but I have that interview.

The tensions have been high at home and this will only serve to escalate it.

The scratch is worse from the side.

What should I do?

r/southafrica Jun 06 '24

Discussion The face and future of the DA...

623 Upvotes

Ok, hear me out.:

In 2019 Musi Maimane left the DA as its leader and replaced by John Steenhuisen (a move I ((a white male)) did not appreciate, as I supported Musi's policies and outlook on things). In 2023 the DA held its elective conference to elect a new leader (Mpho Phalatse vs John Steenhuisen). Much to my surprise Steenhuisen came out on top.

This is where my issues started... It is no secret the DA is viewed as a "white party" by many South Africans, even though it is just optics and and politic games to portray the DA in this light. It is my OPINION (please don't stone me to death), that the DA had a perfect opportunity to counter this views by electing the first ever black female leader, a successful medical doctor none the less. By doing so, it could have changed the way the DA is viewed by so many South Africans.

To break it down to the basics and pure optics of the situation, a black female leader would have come across 1000% beter than a white male as the face of the party. I strongly believe the DA would have performed better this election with Mpho as its leader.

Now before I get downvoted into oblivion and labeled as an ignorant racist for making this statement, I realise how this sounds... Put a black face on the election poster and black people will vote. This is not what I am saying. I think it is common or subconscious knowledge (even if no one wants to admit it) that the DA is certainly a capable party that is able to govern and bring stability to South Africa, but come on man, get in touch with what's happening on the ground. A white man's face on an election poster does not resonate with the majority of South Africa. It is as simple as that.

So if the DA wants to survive into the future of SA politics I would strongly urged them to reconsider their stance on this issue and get in touch with the ordinary South African.

Ok, I am done raging. Let the stoning begin.

r/southafrica Jan 27 '26

Discussion Do something good this year: vaccinate yourselves and your kids.

405 Upvotes

Measles is making a comeback, not just in SA, but in many countries that send us their tourists.

The UK just lost their measles elimination status and the US is very close to losing theirs.

Measles incidence has increased from 1.78/100,000 to 4.48/100,000 from 2024 to 2025.

So far this year, the Western Cape has had more measles cases than it had for the entire 2024.

The MMR does not cause autism.

The MMR is free at any government clinic (for kids) or can cost between R 300 and R 750 at a private clinic.

Also, get your flu vaccine in March/April.

Around 11k South Africans die from the flu each year. The vaccine is a cheap (R200-ish) way to prevent the flu.

The 2026 flu season is predicted to be quite severe based on what's happening in the US & elsewhere.

Protect yourselves, your loved ones, and the people around you.

[1] http://nicd.ac.za/measles-rubella-dashboard/

[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgjw0xegxglo

[3] https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/measles

[4] https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/is-there-an-autism-epidemic

[5] https://www.bonitas.co.za/news-article/getting-to-grips-with-flu/

[6] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-00061-6

r/southafrica 1d ago

Discussion Gambling - Don’t even start

213 Upvotes

I think more emphasis should be placed on the dangers of gambling. When they told us to stay in school, don’t do drugs they should’ve added “never start gambling”

I made a terrible judgement call last night. Placed R10K on PSG to win against Arsenal - 2.4 odds, total cash payout of R24K. Did my research, went through the patterns, did the stats, everything!

Well, my prediction was right but 1x2 means they had to win within 90 minutes. They didn’t. Now I’m 10K down and I’m back paddling trying to find ways to pay for my rent.

I’m sharing this to raise awareness about the dangers of gambling - not only can it be addictive, of which isn’t the case for me, I just saw an opportunity to double my money at the time, but it can also mess up your finances in a very bad way. Like homeless-level bad.

r/southafrica May 22 '25

Discussion Is anybody else worried that trump lies are going to further divide us?

325 Upvotes

I feel like this is more dangerous than people are realizing, and not just a joke (although of course we can joke about it as we always find humour in our problems). But I feel like the current US administration has interest in further dividing us, boiling us down again to black and white problems, preventing us from uniting as one nation to improve. I also feel there's an interest in discrediting us when it comes to human rights because we stood against Israel.

r/southafrica May 01 '26

Discussion ProNutro Disappointment

227 Upvotes

Earlier this week I had such a craving for ProNutro but sadly it was finished. I went to the store but the store was also all out of the chocolate ProNutro. Yesterday I found it at another store, so just now I made my ProNutro.

I immediately saw there was something wrong with the consistency as it wasn't mixing property. So I checked the box to see if I bought the wrong brand, but it was correct.

I had half a spoon just to taste and it was disgusting.

Needless to say I discarded that bowl of ProNutro.

I will be requesting a refund.

And think about what a great product we lost.

Farewell ProNutro

r/southafrica Mar 12 '26

Discussion Support for the Ayatollah

143 Upvotes

Dangerous question, here it goes:

I have seen in recent times, outpouring of support for the now deceased supreme leader of Iran, specifically from South African people. I should hardly have to say that I believe Trump is the worst leader the USA has known, and his war represents a very poor set of decisions for many reasons. With that said though, Khamenei was a supreme leader (aka a Dictator) the regime he led was known to have ruled in a highly oppressive way which was often the cause of misery to his people. One of his final acts of power was to have dissent brutally crushed with the loss of over 7000 lives (conservatively). Why then is there such support for him locally?