r/sleeptrain 7h ago

6 - 12 months Early morning waking are the worst

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We have had quite the time sleep training my daughter - now 10 months. We finally nailed naps during the day! Independently falling asleep and staying asleep for 2 naps a day 99% of the time! (YAY). BUT our early morning wakings haven’t solved yet. She sleep during the day anywhere from 2hrs 15min - 2.5hrs bedtime stays the same with either as she just falls asleep either right away or rolls around for a bit before falling asleep anyway. She gets up once to comfort nurse (not looking to drop this quite yet). But then she’s consistently awake usually around 5:30-6. Our ideal wake up time is 6:30am. She’s still sleeping in our room. We’ve tried everything to solve this honestly. We trialed 2hrs daytime sleep, 2hrs 45mins, later bedtime, earlier bedtime. None of them made it better, in fact a lot of them made the rest of the night worse still with an early wake up.
I don’t know what to do. It’s killing my husband since he’s the one getting up at that time to hold her. She falls back asleep 75% of the time but absolutely will not let you transfer her. Help. Please. I’m begging.

ETA schedule: we don’t go by wake windows anymore we do naps at set times so nap 1 9:40-11 nap 2 2:50-4 lay her down for bed at 7:30.


r/sleeptrain 22h ago

4 - 6 months Baby bursts out crying whenever put down in crib. How to sleep train without CIO?

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My almost 6 month old cries every time he is placed in his crib. There is no “fussing time” or “happy wait and see”, it is straight out crying. We have been trying the pick up put down method and he eventually gets to the point where he is so tired that he will basically cry himself to the verge of sleep in our arms and then, if he is tired enough, will stay calm for the transfer and fall asleep a second later.

I know I shouldn’t compare, but so many of my friend’s babies are calm as they go to sleep. I hate seeing my baby so worked up and crying every nap and bedtime (and some overnight wakes too now).

It seems like his natural wake windows are now around 2.5hrs. His naps are 30-40 minutes. He usually has 3-4 naps a day with a bedtime between 6:30-8 (depending on when he wakes up from the 3rd nap). Overnight wake ups have hit a new pattern of 11ish, 2ish, 5ish. Recently he has been needing to eat at all of them. He usually wakes up for the morning around 6/6:30.

Again, I hate seeing my baby cry for EVERY sleep! Any advice on how to help him go down happier and more content? Or should I just change my expectations and realize that some babies just cry for every sleep? We do not want to do CIO, but are open to other gentler sleep training methods.


r/sleeptrain 23h ago

4 - 6 months 17 weeks - when to start sleep training?

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Hi everyone - first time poster but have been lurking this thread for a long time so thank you in advance for how thoughtful and informative this community is!

For background, LO is 17 weeks, he was sleeping through the night for a few weeks around 3 months and as we got to the 4 month mark he goes down at 7:30 PM, wakes up for a bottle at 3 AM and then back down until 7 am or so. I’ve read a lot stories in this thread I feel like we have it pretty good and I recognize that.

My question is - do I start a more formal some type of cry it out sleeping training soon to try to get him to drop the 3 am feed? Is he doing pretty good do I save us the heartache of crying it out and just give him more time to naturally drop it on his own?

Currently we have the bed time routine we’ve been militant about, crib naps (how long he naps is hit or miss but that’s a story for another day), and he is fully sleeping in his crib at night. We will let him FIO for 5-10 minutes at 3 am but it almost always results in us going in. He is doing about 25-28 oz a day. Over the last week we’ve been putting him down slightly drowsy for nighttime and he goes to bed on his own.

What do we think? How do I get him to drop the 3 am feed? Thank you in advance!


r/sleeptrain 18h ago

1-2 years old 13 month old still waking 4-10 times per night

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My 13 month old still sleeps like an infant.

He slept 6-10 hours at night until 3.5 months.. since then, I’ve slept for 6-8 hours at a time less than 10 times. Most of our nights are waking every 30-90 minutes with the occasional 2-4 hour stretch sprinkled in. I’m in school and I now coach 4 group fitnesses classes a week so my brain and muscles are taking a major beating with little rest and recovery. My husband tries to help but our baby just wants me for sleep.

-Around 2 weeks old I realized there was something more than just crying so since then I haven’t had any caffeine.
-At 2 months I fully cut dairy and a handful of other foods. Eczema started becoming more and more of an issue. All of these changes helped & he was a while new happy baby.
-At 3.5 months we stopped sleeping. Nothing changed at all. I had always just sat there and nursed him to almost asleep, then once he fell asleep, I’d hold him for a couple of minutes then I’d place him in his crib. Until one day he refused to go down so I rocked him & now I’ve rocked approximately 7,000 miles to help soothe him to sleep.
-At 6 months he had his first negative reaction to dairy so we cut it back out. It was a delayed reaction so about 3 hours after the exposure is when the rash started (We’re supposed to try it again but I am terrified).
-As of 13 months, he eats 3 meals, has 2 snacks, and nurses 3 times per day….. and however many times we need to at night to get us what little sleep we can get.

-He was a c-section baby
-He had a terrible latch for the first 3ish months..
-He refused to co sleep so he’s been in his own bed since birth…. Trust me I gave it my best shot when he stopped sleeping. He hated it.
-He will not take a bottle no matter how hard I have tried.
-He wakes screaming crying sometimes and playing and happy other times with no rhyme or reason.
-I’ve gotten our schedule set within a 15 minute variance through the day.
-When his dad has tried to do middle of the night wakings with him it is just several hours of our baby screaming and flailing until he falls asleep but will wake and restart the game when his dad tries to transfer to the crib.
-We have tried letting him just cry for bit in his crib to see if he will resettle, but 9 times out of 10, he’ll have pooped and just been sitting in it so I stopped leaving him for long once he wakes up.
-His room is a consistent temp, there is no sound, and the lighting doesn’t change as the sun comes up. His room is consistently not too cold, but not too hot, pitch black, and a noise machine.
-Our pediatrician just says “he’ll sleep eventually” but at this point I’m starting to wonder if there is more to the situation than just a baby that won’t sleep at night.
-He naps well most days and transfers quickly after falling asleep. Usually within 10 minutes he’s in the crib. At night though… I will rock and sing for 1-3 hours before I can get a successful transfer.
-His schedule is solid and consistent. I don’t think it’s a schedule problem. I’m sure it’s a sleep association problem partially, but it just feels like more.
-We don’t do screens directly. If one is on, then it’s fine but he doesn’t watch anything other than the fish on the Roku screensaver. We are outside at least 30+ minutes a day unless it’s storming and we get out of the house daily.
-We play rough with him and flip him around through the day to help with his vestibular system.

Current schedule:
7:30 wake (if we make it that far)
11:15 nap (if 1.5+ hours we do one nap only, but if it’s less than 1.5 we do a second nap at 3:15 for 39-60 minutes depending on how long nap 1 was)
7:30-8pm bedtime. Up until a couple of weeks ago he was waking at 6:15 every day. But bedtime was v 6-6:30 most days & I struggled to get home before 7pm some days.

We do a bath every night for 15-20 minutes (allergist recommendation for his eczema), lotions/creams, then into his sleep sack, then nursing and sleep.

Please help me figure out what I’m missing.


r/sleeptrain 10h ago

4 - 6 months Bad nights with no discernable pattern after sleep training???

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What is going on with our baby's sleep!? We have been trying to sleep train our 6 month old baby (extinction method) for almost 2 months. Some nights she does great—fusses for a few minutes at bedtime and has no problem sleeping. But about twice a week, she will have a bad night, involving prolonged crying at bedtime, and/or prolonged crying when I put her back in the crib after middle of the night nursings.

The thing that's confusing is that there's virtually no difference between our schedule and bedtime routine on the good nights and the bad nights. And we always check the obvious: Her diaper hasn’t leaked, she doesn't have a fever, she shouldn't be hungry, and she’s not teething. 

Every bad night, we try to come up with some kind of explanation, no matter how tenuous: Maybe it’s because she woke up from a nap 2 minutes early? Maybe a car honked at an inopportune moment? Maybe she has a tummy ache?? It's got to be something, right??

But if she’s truly sleep trained, shouldn’t she be able to roll with those types of very minor variations? Her sleep improved with sleep training but two bad nights a week seems like a lot! Is this normal? Do we just have to give it more time?

We are also confused about how to approach the bad nights. If she has a bad night and cries for more than 30 minutes at bedtime, we have started to go in around the 30 minute mark to soothe her and do a quick reset. This normally works in the moment, but in the long run, we worry that we may be undoing all of our hard work. But then, confusingly, most other nights she falls right asleep with no issue! Are we doing the right thing by resetting her once or twice a week at bedtime?

Please help us get over this hump!


r/sleeptrain 6h ago

4 - 6 months How does it work if they don’t suck their thumb?

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Second time parent to a two month old. We are planning to sleep train around 5 months.

We did a modified Ferber at 5 months with our first and it was really great - but they stuck their thumb to self-soothe. So far our second is still finding their hands, and uses a soother sometimes. If they don’t end up sucking their thumb too, how does sleep training work successfully? I’d rather not spend my life replacing their soother!


r/sleeptrain 6h ago

1-2 years old What does it mean to treat emw as night waking?

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I'm just curious what it really means? Like if LO wakes up an hour before DWT crying, do you just let them cry for an hour?


r/sleeptrain 7h ago

4 - 6 months HELP - Sleep Schedule

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Hello,

I need help fixing my 22-week-old baby's sleep schedule so he sleeps better at night.

For the past 3 days, he has been waking up around 7:30 AM. His first nap usually starts around 9:30 AM. Recently, I extended his wake windows to 3 hours because he was fighting naps and bedtime. Since doing that, he falls asleep much more easily with little to no resistance. Last week, he used to wake up 4 times at night every 2 hours. but now only three times with noticeably longer stretches

The issue is that his naps are now about 1 or 1.5 hours each. By 5:00 PM or 6:00 PM, I'm unsure whether I should start his bedtime routine or give him a fourth nap. If I give him a short 20-minute fourth nap, it pushes bedtime to around 9:00 PM.

Also, I know babies shouldn't sleep later than 8:00 PM, but when he does, he sleeps a first longer stretch 4 hours....

I'm conflicted because he seems to tolerate 3-hour wake windows well now, but I'm not sure what the best approach is.

Should I:

  1. Keep the 3-hour wake windows and accept a later bedtime?
  2. Wake him earlier in the morning and cap his naps so he can maintain 3-hour wake windows but still have a bedtime closer to 7:00 PM?
  3. Follow a different schedule altogether?

What would you recommend for a 22-week-old who is handling 3-hour wake windows well and taking two 1.5-hour naps?


r/sleeptrain 8h ago

6 - 12 months Struggling at 10 months (9 adjusted) after the Ferber method worked previously

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So my 10 month old (born a month early so 9 months adjusted) has been struggling to sleep for almost 2 months. Here is a little breakdown of everything that’s happened in the past few months:

- 6-8 months he was sleeping through the night with the help of the Ferber method. It was amazing.

- 8 months he started daycare

- he got sick for literally almost 2 months straight and needed us during the night time constantly. We let go of some strict sleep rules so that he could be cared for.

- now that he is feeling better, we’ve started to get back into sleep training but it isn’t working like it did that first time.

Here is where we are now:

-bedtime is 7:30ish pm.

-he’s waking up around 10/11 pm every night and staying up till 3:30 ish.

-We try to give him 10-15 min before we go in.

-He has yet to soothe himself this go around. We pick him up momentarily and then try again.

-He will usually wake again at 5:30 am ish and we co sleep until 7 because everyone is just exhausted at that point.

-he’s takes 2 naps a day. He sleeps around 3 hours on average. He is getting better at napping independently, which wasn’t the case before.

I’m racking my brain at what this could be and how we can make it stop. He’s teething, he’s also working on skills like pulling up, he’s definitely developing more awareness, so I’m thinking this has to be a regression now….

We are so tired. Help. What can we do differently.


r/sleeptrain 9h ago

Let's Chat When did your LO stop crying when you left the room?

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Hi all,

My LO (8 months) has done well with sleep training. Except she always cries when i transfer her to bed. I watch the time and she always stops between 1-3 minutes in and falls asleep not long after.

She is still waking to feed once or twice during the night. It is a lot when she screams on top of her lungs at 2am when i put her back to her bed.

And so I'm wondering if your kiddos did the same and when they stopped. Bonus points if they were a similar age!


r/sleeptrain 9h ago

6 - 12 months HELP...5AM EMW and she won't even let me sit

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We just retrained our 11 month old and she sleeps from 8pm to 4:50AM. But these early mornings wake ups are killing me. She will dose off if I'm holdong and patting her, but immediately screams awake if I sit my butt down, even if I don't change the angle I'm holding her. She also cried with her eyes closed if I keep trying to sit down. I've tried to let her cry it out but the sleep pressure is so low that it only did the opposite. I'll normally give up at 6AM and start the day.

Her first nap is no earlier than 9:45. Total daytime nap 2-2.5 hours. WW is 4/3.5/3.75 (first one so long because of the EMW). The room is dark and white noise plays all night long. She's not too hot or cold. I'm awake at 4:45 this morning and laid still in my bed. At 4:53 she woke up like a clock and there was no noise or whatsoever that woke her up.

Please help...it's so early and exhausting to start every day this way


r/sleeptrain 11h ago

6 - 12 months Early morning wake-up lasting 1+ hour — what would you do?

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Hello! Fortunately, I have a great nighttime sleeper overall.

For months, my daughter (9.5 months) has consistently woken up around 4:30 a.m. Recently that has shifted closer to 5:30 a.m., which is an improvement, but it's still earlier than we'd like to start the day.

She has an age-appropriate bedtime, usually around 7:30–8:00 p.m. With summer activities, it's occasionally closer to 8:30 p.m., but that doesn't seem to affect the early wake-up. She's also in the 99th percentile for weight (24.5 lbs and 30 inches long), and her pediatrician previously told us she no longer needs overnight feeds.

My question is about what happens when she wakes up.

Historically, when she wakes around 5:30, it may take me 20–30 minutes to get into her room because she's often just quietly awake. Then she'll nurse for 10–20 minutes, and it can take another 15–30 minutes for her to fall back asleep. In total, she's awake for about an hour, but then she'll sleep until around 7:45–8:15 a.m., which works really well for our family.

The last two mornings, instead of going in, I've let her try to get back to sleep on her own. She eventually does, but she's awake in her crib for a little over an hour before falling back asleep.

Is that too long for her to be awake in the crib? Should I be going in and feeding her? If I continue letting her resettle independently (assuming she's content and not crying), is there a chance she'll eventually eliminate this wake-up altogether?

I'd love to hear from anyone who's experienced something similar.

EDIT TO ADD WAKE WINDOWS BELOW:

We are on a two-nap schedule. With wake windows as follows 3/3.5/3.75.


r/sleeptrain 12h ago

6 - 12 months No idea what to do 😓

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My 7.5 month old has been relentlessly waking every hour overnight, and I’m at a loss as to why or what I might be doing wrong. Some nights are better than others, and she’ll occasionally give me a 3-hour stretch, but over the last few days things have really taken a turn for the worse.

She wakes around 7am and follows 3 / 3.5 / 4 wake windows. I cap her total daytime sleep at 2.5 hours, and she goes to sleep independently from awake at bedtime.

The biggest struggle is the early morning wakes. If she’s been crying for more than 20 minutes, the only thing that seems to settle her is nursing.

I’m just feeling really stuck and unsure what I’m missing. If anyone has any pointers, suggestions, or similar experiences, I’d really appreciate hearing them. 😭 Could this simply come down to temperament? She is an intense screamer and does not take well to trying to calm down.


r/sleeptrain 12h ago

9 - 16 weeks To Magic Merlin or Not…

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Our LO is 3.5 months. We moved her to a sleep sack around 2 months because the girl loves her hands.

She’s a great night time sleeper (usually wakes around the 8 hour mark for her paci then she sleeps again until it’s time to wake up). Sometimes getting her down at night takes 1 or 2 paci re-inserts but it’s usually pretty easy.
Naps are the same, easy to get down, but the issue is that some naps the last 3-4 weeks have been short - waking before 30 minutes and then it’s the paci game to try to extend and I know she isn’t getting restorative sleep.

My question is - would this be a good case to try the Merlin suit? I’m afraid it’s a backslide since she’s been in a sleep sack for so long and doing mostly ok. If we did use it my thought was to use it for naps only, but not sure if that will confuse her and then just be an issue moving her back to the sleep sack again later.

I’m also not sure if the 4 month regression is going to come for us and maybe at that point it would make more sense to use it? She also starts daycare in a month and I’m nervous about her ability to nap there.

Schedule is roughly: 1/1.5/1.5/1.5/2

She’s definitely always been a high sleep needs baby and can’t tolerate longer wake windows.

Thanks!


r/sleeptrain 12h ago

6 - 12 months Sleep regression? Separation anxiety? Teething? At a loss with my almost 11 month olds sleep

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About a month ago we started to experience some sleep issues at bedtime with my previously great sleeper. He is roughly 10.5, almost 11 months and not sleep trained. Before, I’d put him down fully asleep (nurse to sleep), and he’d sleep through the night or have one wake. I could even sometimes put him down awake and he’d fall asleep on his own. He takes his naps independently in his crib usually fine during the day. However within the last month, naps have stayed okay, but he will wake a couple hours after I put him down just screaming and crying, and it will take rocking and usually at least an hour or two and a couple attempts to get him back down for good. He had a rough couple weeks, then a really good week, and right back to it last night. It took 2 attempts to get him back to sleep, and even 30 mins after that transfer, he woke crying but fell back asleep within a couple mins (I try to give him 5 mins when he starts to cry bc he can calm himself down, unless he’s clearly escalating). Editing to add: after a few failed transfers or rocking attempts, he usually does fall asleep for a stretch. Sometimes it’s 5-6 hours until he wakes crying again, sometimes it’s around 7-8 and he wakes just fine and dandy in the morning.

I want to be able to put him down awake so the first wake up in between sleep cycles isn’t so jarring for him, but I worry it’s not a good time to start sleep training. He seems to have bad separation anxiety, and I’ve no clue if he’s teething. He has no teeth yet, so idk what to look for. I guess I’m here to ask, when did you know it was a good time to start? Is it bad to start during a regression?

Our day looks like this: 3/3.5/3.5-3.75 max
DWT of 6:30-6:45 unless he has a rough night then we let him sleep til 7:30ish
Bedtime routine: bath, book, nurse to sleep

I’m also planning to wean around 12 months so that’s why I hope to be able to put him down awake. We did CIO actually at the beginning of this regression, and I hated it so much. It worked. But I went back to nursing to sleep bc I had a lot of regret around it. I’d prefer to not do it again. But the constant screaming wake ups and rocking him to sleep are getting really tiring and it’s all really puzzling too, especially since he can fall asleep on his own for naps! So I just don’t know what’s happening. I’d appreciate any advice. TIA!


r/sleeptrain 1h ago

2+ years old Never sleep trained before! But my 2.5yo is killing me, please help!

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I haven't needed to sleep train my daughter because I was happy to get up overnight and she hadn't been to bad to get to sleep, until now.

In the last year or so we have culled Breastfeeding, bottles and pacifiers, so no longer have any crutches.

She has been in her single bed since just before 1 because she hated a cot.

She wakes up around 6am each morning, has a 1-2hr nap around 1130am, then her bedtime routine starts around 630pm after dinner.

Bedtime routine is bath time, pajamas, a snack if she needs one, teeth, bit of chatting, stories and bed.

Bedtime is usually 745ish.

In the last 2 months she has been incredibly abusive towards me, hitting, biting, pinching etc. Her stalling is excessive, gets distracted by blankets, my face, pillows, the curtain string, water, wanting to get up, anything!!

Most nights i end up swaddling her and rocking her to sleep because I need her to stop hitting me. During this she screams at me telling me to get away.

I sometimes then try to leave the room to have a break from the abuse. She gets up immediately and tries to leave the room, if I hold the door shut she screams and/or unpacks everything in her room.

Doesn't seem to make any difference if she has had a busy day, active day, skipped her nap, gone to bed early/late, snacks, yoto before bed.

Once asleep, she usually sleeps throught the night once she has gone to sleep which I am very grateful for.

About my toddler: she is pure chaos, a bit scrawny but a pocket rocket for sure, she is sweet natured but lacks impulse control, she is a great problem solver and generally very happy. I sometimes wonder if she has a degree of ADHD or if it's just toddlerhood.

Any advice is greatly appreciated 🩷


r/sleeptrain 13h ago

1-2 years old Nap weaning has made toddler start to refuse naps, advice on approach?

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So my toddler is 22 months old. We have nightweaned at 20 months, so until a week ago he only breastfed at bedtime, in the early morning and for his nap.

He used to nap on top of me or cuddled to my side with the nipple in his mouth for the entire nap. My goal now is to get him to nap independently, so I used the same approach I used for night weaning.

I make the room dark, get in bed, him on top, we kiss before he latches and I breastfeed for around 10 min (2 of his lullaby) then I unlatch.

The problem is that after I unlatch he doesn't go to sleep, even if he is almost asleep while nursing. As soon as I unlatch, he wiggles around in the bed, says all the words he knows, even "no" and "done", sometimes tries to get off the bed. At night I used to cuddle with him when I weaned but he is having none of that at nap. After half an hour to an hour of doing his thing he eventually drifts off to sleep.

I have tried putting him to bed when he said he wants to nap at his usual time at first, which was a little over 3h after waking up, but he nursed and wouldn't sleep, left the room and everything.

I tried the recommended 5h wake window and it took him an hour to fall asleep and a meltdown.

I tried 4h wake windows and he rolls around for half an hour at least.

I am hoping he is protesting and this is just a phase but am I wrong? Is this normal nap behavior or am I doing something wrong?


r/sleeptrain 13h ago

4 - 6 months 5 month old, moving away from shush pat? Is it possible without Ferber?!

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For context I have a 21 week old EBF baby. Bed sharing at night and contact napper from the beginning! I’ve loved bed sharing but his sleep is getting worse and he now only settles when lay across me and latched on an all times!!!

The last 3 weeks we have successfully got baby down for naps on their own in the crib using shush and pat. I rock him and sing until he’s drowsy and then pop him down and it takes about 5 minutes to successfully pat him to sleep, I don’t sneak out the room but hes 100% asleep when I leave. Hes waking mostly after 1 sleep cycle at the 30 minute mark but sometimes we get longer…. best has been 1.5 hours.

When he wakes at bedtime I usually just get him up and have him contact nap with me until it’s time for bed.

I’m slightly reluctant to start Ferber if it’s too early and I also have a 4 year old I’m worried we will wake when sleep training. We sleep trained my 4 year old when they were about 4.5 months but they sucked their thumb so had some form of comfort LO currently only sucks his hands but not reliably!

I guess my question is has anyone’s little ones successfully started linking sleep cycles whilst shush patting and avoided Ferber or is it inevitable that I will have to start and if so is 5 months too early to begin? Will move him into his own room when we begin sleep training formally!


r/sleeptrain 13h ago

1-2 years old Help me know if I’m going in the right direction-

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14 month old, wakes at 5-6 am everyday. Usually is down for nap at 830-9 am and will sleep about 2-21/2 hours. That’s her only nap most days due to her absolutely fighting us on the second. Then she’s so wore out by 630 pm she not only fights when we try to rock, but also she usually will sleep through the night. I am SO over the fighting. Ferber didn’t work for us the multiple times we’ve tried it. I won’t cry it out fully. Yesterday we had a break through. I went to rock her for her nap in the am and she threw her passi across the room. I immediately put her down in her bed, gave her her passi, and walked out of the room. She stood up screamed and cried but would self settle. And then she would scream and cry again and repeat. After about 8 minutes of this, I went in, checked on her. Her passi was on the floor. So I gave it back, picked her up, gave her a smooch and laid her back down (she was standing) and covered her up. This time she only sat back up and cried. Eventually (5-8 minutes) she LAYS DOWN and just goes to sleep? And then same thing for night time, only I completely skipped the rocking part and just tucked her in, and only had to do one check in. Slept through the night. Is this the path to success? Am I moving in the right direction?


r/sleeptrain 13h ago

1-2 years old Day 5 of false starts

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17 month old sleep trained since about 4-6 months.

Current schedule that is working well (he’s happy and not fussy and goes down easily) except nightly false starts and some split nights: 5.5/6

6:30am DWT

12-2 nap

8pm bed

He goes down easily and falls asleep immediately for nap and bed. Wakes on his own from nap. For the past 5 nights however, he wakes after 1 sleep cycle around 8:40pm and cries. He puts himself back to sleep, so it’s not the end of the world, but it seems to me something is off? Additionally he’s had a split night twice in this time period.

Should I cap nap? He’s never given us more than 10.5 overnight. He’ll be starting daycare in a month or so and their nap schedule is 12-2, so I’d like to stay close to that and adjust around it.


r/sleeptrain 14h ago

6 - 12 months 2 naps but they are short - early bedtime and early wake up

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My baby is 7 months old. He started sleeping poorly at night and refusing nap 3 so we moved to a 2 nap day.

We follow the 3/3/4 sceduale. It worked wonderfully at first as his naps were quite long (roughly 90 minutes each).

Then his naps shortened for some reason and following 3/3/4 brought his bedtime earlier and earlier each day.

For example, last night he went to bed at 6 20. Today, he was up at 5 20.

Today, he might nap an hour each nap which bring his bedtime too early again and now we can expect another unreasonably early wake up tomorrow.

What can I do to improve the waking time? At least bring it up till 6 am? Try to squeeze in a cat nap? That would bring bedtime really late and it hasn't worked for us before which is why we switched to 2 naps in the first place.

I have two older kids whose bedtime is late and these endlessly long days are killing me.


r/sleeptrain 14h ago

6 - 12 months 8 month old 4:30 am wake up

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Our 8 month old has always been pretty bad at sleeping in the early hours of the morning, but I’m starting to lose it! There’s a few things happening.
1. Hell wake up once through the night for a bottle, which is fine, but if it’s anytime after like 3am he has a haaaard time going back to sleep and we need to hold him or bring him into bed.
2. Sometimes if he wakes up earlier in the night he’ll go back down but then wake up around 4:30/5 and won’t go back to sleep, even with assistance.

We sleep trained him (CIO) around 5 months, his schedule is approx. 3/3.5/4.25 - however when he wakes up super early I’ll get him as close to 9am for his first nap as possible, so bedtime pretty much always falls between 7-7:30. I don’t let him nap for more than 2.5 hours in total during the day.

Advice? Solidarity? When did it end if you went through something similar???


r/sleeptrain 16h ago

4 - 6 months Split night cycle

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I have a 5 month old who like clockwork wakes up at 2am every morning with no variation. We practice all the basics (food, fresh diaper, dark cool room, white noise machine, non-stimulating time before bed) with a schedule starting 6:30am and ending between 7 and 8pm. Im normally at work during the day so its hard for me to nail down but the day time schedule is generally suppose to go like 2/1.5 2/1.5 2/1.5 2/1.5 2/1.5. It is worth noting that the last two nap cycles are hit or miss as sometimes LO only sleeps for 30 minutes at best (his choice) unless its a contact nap. Is there any thing else I can do to break this cycle?


r/sleeptrain 17h ago

4 - 6 months Desperate for sleep

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Should we start sleep training?

Our baby recently started sleeping through the night - usually around 8/9pm to 6am, feeding once, then going back to sleep until 8/9am. Her wake windows are usually around 1.5/2/2/2/2.5.

We’ve fed to sleep since newborn stage. If nursing doesn’t work, we rock her with a pacifier. She was sleeping in her crib all night except for one false start after bedtime (which she’s always had).

The bigger issue is naps - they’re all contact naps because she wakes immediately on transfer.

But ever since she hit 4 months, her nighttime sleep completely fell apart almost overnight. For the past 3 nights she’s been waking every hour or less. I’ve tried other soothing methods first, but nothing works besides nursing. The last 2 nights I ended up bedsharing because I’m so exhausted I physically can’t keep doing transfers all night just for her to wake up again 30 minutes later.

I feel like I’m trapped in a dark room all day for naps, and now I’m not even sleeping at night anymore. My mental health is honestly starting to struggle.

So I guess I’m asking:
Should we start sleep training now, or does this part of the 4 month regression usually improve a bit first before starting? I used to be completely against CIO, but after these last few nights it suddenly doesn’t seem as terrible as I once thought.


r/sleeptrain 18h ago

4 - 6 months Only 9 hrs of awake time but baby has finished all her naps...what do I do?

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Hi all,

Baby is 5 months and napping and total of 2h 45m a day over three naps. She was getting sleepy and fussy earlier in the day so now her awake time will only amount to 9hrs if I give her 3hrs for last wake window. She usually only can do 2.75hrs for her last ww, but 10 hrs awake seems to work well with her.

What do I do? Do I add a 10min bridge nap?

Thanks!​