I love Isaac. He's amazing. Everything about him. He's adorable, he's so bad with emotions He's a good partner and a good friend and a good stepdad, his body language is so expressive as a robot and Mark Jackson does such a good job playing him. He's the best!!

What are your favorite Isaac moments?

Why didn’t the Union contact the leaders of the planet? To me it would’ve been better if the leaders were notified of aliens and then let the anthropologists studied them. That means the leaders could have modified the voting system so it stayed under 10 million.

There plenty of media where the leaders of Earth know about aliens but not the general public.

Surely the planet has some sort of elite or upper class who monitored the system with the votes. Said upper class probably ensure they don’t get too many downvotes.

I started this show last week and just finished it last night. It consumed me. To the point I stayed up until 4am watching episodes.

And man the final couple of episodes were incredible. At first I was sad that it didn't wrap up every storyline and spent so much time on Claire and Issac's wedding but learning it was canceled after season 3 ended made me understand.

Anyway the meat of the post. The defeat/ turn of the Kaylon and how I was with the Krill until the last 2 minutes. And this shows amazing ability to avert my expectations/ feelings.

Okay so while I didn't agree with Charly's hate for Issac I totally understood her hate for the Kaylon in general.

And so when the Krill and Mocolan's got a hold of the wepaon I want the Union to be opps just a little to late to stop them. I mean the Kaylon only agreed to a truce under immediate threat. Like second they understood the weapon they would go back to what they were doing. So why not get rid of the threat.

But that is my primitive brain talking. And by the end I realized it was the smartest and most compassionate outcome.

But this took until the last 2 minutes. Because that battle had so many people die for Kaylon. Entire ship gone to protect an entity that until yesterday was an enemy.

But the Kaylon learned. Yes it took Prime seeing Charly's sacrifice. But they reevaluated. One incident and they changed. Of course they are machines and can do that. But it took me reminding myself that the Krill and Mocolan's have had numerous examples/ opportunities to learn from and end up doubling down. (Very biological thing to do but still).

Plus we got Isaac inviting all of them to his wedding which was just beautiful.

And who knows if they had a chance to study the weapon they may have been able to use it on other species. Or more likely adjust it to Union tech to do the same thing.

Anyway all this to say. I already miss this show and I don't know what to do with my self.

Honestly throughout it I was thinking of a sort of emotional non-simulation version of Firestorm with how each of the characters almost died. But at the end they kinda just gloss over that and say "oh yeah they were psychologically based- ANYWAY how did it feel to ALMOST DIE"

I mean Kelly had no control, Bortus was literally being choked by the past, Ed was responsible for the lives of a bunch of people, Gordon was seen as lesser than...

Am I crazy or should there have been more to this?​

So I will say the acting, drama, comedy, and emotions were at an all time high and in my opinion the best season so far. Im happy we finally got a happy family with bortus, an interesting relationship with Lamar & Issac both finding happiness for a while. However I despised the outcome of the emotion reprogramming and how it goes nowhere. Issac finally isn't locked behind his AI brain and is actually telling us how he feels and how much hes learned just for them to pull a C3PO were he either dies or loses his feelings, all that build up just for nothing but he does atleast have some left that he has learned. I knew the moclan planet arc was gonna be a big setup and was happy to see it pay off with them and the krill being partners. I do hope to god they wont do a bortus and Kelly affair because it seems like that is were its going for season 4. What i mean is when the little girl asks them if they are together and they say that they are good friends which was a weird line but fine then when they were in the canyon they do the cliche face2face kiss that doesn't happen because they get back to reality. But im hopeful that if there is a season 4 they wont do it. 9/10 season ( also the rebel leader moclan was insufferable, and i dont know why. She just makes me think of Saw gurrara and it annoys me)

Hi I’m new here and I just got done re-watching the Orville and there will be spoilers so you have been warned and as for my theory or what I want to see in season 4 let me know if you like it or not

Ok so the big new enemy for the Orville I feel are 3 main alien species, which are the krill, moclan’s and maybe those spider demon things that we saw in season 3 EP 2 “shadow realm” as the infected vice admiral Paul says to Dr Clare “we go for now but not forever” which could mean a possible ep where the Orville try to explore more of that part of space again for peace or to learn more about there species

Now we know teleya is in union prison for war crimes but we also know there are some human union officers who agree with her and the moclans that the Kaylon cannot be trusted and think that the peace treaty between them is wrong so I think ether a moclan or some human union officers will break her out of prison

But if this does happen I would like a ep of ed and teleya on a planet together again let’s say one episode ed is overwhelmed with the fact he can no longer see his own daughter and work has been stressful so he takes a break he tells the Orville he’ll be going to a planet in a solar system they’re in and he has bortus take command for the day while he’s out (sense I heard Kelly won’t be in season 4)

Before ed can make it to the designated planet he was originally going to a krill or moclan ship hits his and he falls to a planet that is semi poisonous to humans but not to krill (sense we don’t know too much of what krill can survive in besides sunlight and the poison won’t be too serious for ed he’ll probably just be coughing up blood or his body is swelling up from the air toxicity on that planet) and teleya is currently on that planet ether with or without Anya there coming up with a plan with some moclan’s to destroy the kaylon and the union

One of the krill soldiers sees the crash ship and ed who is hurt and unconscious they see this as a perfect way for them to make demands against the union or for revenge so they bring ed back to teleya in her privet quarters and tell her what happened

Teleya tells the guards to tie ed up or put him in a holding cell where she waits for him to wake up so they can talk 1 on 1 which ed is trying to Convince teleya that what she’s trying to do is wrong or he tells her about his encounter with the demons the krill told him about or they talk about Anya and how she’s grown up which ed might tell teleya that he’s been writing her journals about himself for Anya in case she ever wants to know who her dad is and why she’s different from all other krill

We know that deep down inside teleya cares for ed and possible loves him but she won’t show it cause it goes against the will of Avis and is seen by the krill as possibly treason, but I think it would be nice for her to slowly think about if what she’s doing is right not seeing her own daughter having no contact with her and if it really is against the will of Avis to love a human male like ed which would slowly ramp up a episode for her full redemption Arc and they can even put it into 2 parts if they want like how they did with the kaylon war.

I’ll end this here because it might be too long so sorry about that but please let me know what you think about my theory I will possibly make a part 2 theory so if you want that please let me know
Anyways I hope your all doing well.

The fleet need to train the crew into being better spies/undercover agents. I love Gordon but he wasn’t great at this job.

In the frist episode gorden is fighting an orc in his first scene, and I can't figure out who played him, anyone know?

Had some free time so I thought I would give it a stab! Enjoy, happy to take critiques.

“The Orville” Season 4, Episode

Episode Title: “Afterlight”

The episode opens nearly a year after the Kaylon-Human alliance ended the war. The USS Orville is no longer just an exploratory vessel. It has become a symbolic diplomatic flagship for the fragile new Union alliance.

Captain Ed Mercer is struggling with political pressure from the Planetary Union Council, which wants tighter military oversight after the devastation of the Kaylon conflict. Mercer increasingly feels the Union is becoming paranoid and authoritarian.

Meanwhile, Isaac faces growing hostility from Union citizens despite helping save Earth. Several crew members receive messages from families of war victims demanding Isaac be removed from service. The tension becomes worse when a Union colony refuses Orville permission to dock while Isaac remains aboard.

Kelly Grayson is offered her own command, creating uncertainty about her future on the ship. The episode quietly frames this as a possible farewell arc, especially since Adrianne Palicki’s real-world involvement with the show seems uncertain. Humanity: incapable of maintaining healthy workplace scheduling since the invention of agriculture.

The main mission begins when the Orville investigates a deep-space research station that suddenly went silent near former Krill territory. Upon arrival, the crew discovers the station apparently abandoned, but time itself behaves strangely inside. Hallways loop. Crew members see alternate versions of events. Gordon briefly encounters an elderly version of himself who warns him not to “let the Union repeat the Kaylon mistake.

Dr. Claire Finn determines the station is trapped inside overlapping quantum timelines caused by experimental Union tech recovered from Kaylon systems after the war.

The climax reveals a surviving extremist Kaylon faction attempting to manipulate temporal probability to erase the alliance with biological life entirely. Isaac must interface directly with the anomaly, risking permanent deletion of his consciousness.

He succeeds, but not before witnessing flashes of possible futures: the Union collapsing into militarism,

the Kaylon achieving true individuality,

and the Orville destroyed in orbit above Earth.

The episode ends with Mercer receiving classified intelligence that several Union member worlds are secretly developing anti-Kaylon weapons in violation of the peace accords.

Final shot: Isaac quietly asks Mercer:

“Captain… why do biologicals prepare for peace by planning for war?”

Cut to black. Humanity continues its undefeated streak of inventing anxiety immediately after surviving catastropy.

I've been wanting to make more friends that are into the orville, so I was wondering if anyone knew of a discord sever i could join?

Why didn’t the admiral let the ship go to Calivon space when they had Isaac?

We learn that the Calivon respect Kaylons so surely it should have been alright to go into their territory if they pretended Isaac was the captain.

Anaya presents a complication for Krill religion. If other species are soulless and they have a particular dislike of humans, what does the existence of Anaya mean? As we saw in the spider people episode, the Krill interpret many natural biological events through the lens of their religion. So Anaya will either be seen as an abomination that represents corruption of pure Krill or the Krill will be forced to update their theological views to say that humans are also part of “the will of Avis.” How could she be possible otherwise right?

If the first happens, there will be almost no hope for any Krill-Union peace. Humans are a corrupting force to their species. They may view humans and the Planetary Union by extension as an existential threat to their survival. Like a virus or something. But if the second happens, **big if to be fair**, it is possible that some humans will then convert to Avistasism. This is not out of the realm of possibility since the Krill have spies in the union already. What will happen with these human converts? Will they also be violent or will they mellow out the religion? We’ll see how long the time gap is for season 4. But if it’s like five to 10 years, one or even both of these developments are possible.

Is it Avis or Aphis for their god. It’s confusing as hell to figure out Wich one.

Why is it funny but also…compelling? In that like read Star Trek way that TNG made you feel, does this go on being actually good?

Teleya is incredible. She’s my favorite character. With all my heart, I want her to redeem herself and end up with Ed and their daughter. I truly want to believe that the fact they even had a daughter means there’s still so much more to develop between them in Season 4. Ed obviously fell in love with her regardless of the fact that she wasn’t Janelle, and he kept caring for her even after learning she was Teleya.

I love how intelligent and strong a leader Teleya is.

This video by StarTrekNation claims that it has first looks and new details revealed, but a whole bunch of the video was him yapping about this and that. Waste of time!!!!!!!!!!!

Just finished season 3's finale.

Loved how it ended (obviously want season 4!!)

Just had a thought.

It would have been cool to bring Charley back for a duet with Malloy in the simulator for the wedding.

Just a fun goodbye to her character and everything she did this season.

Edit: DCC is Dungeon Crawler Carl, a LitRPG book series.

So, with the DCC show news about it possibly being live action instead of animated, and that I should watch the Orville to maybe get an idea of what that may look like, I decided to finally check it out. Not really a trek fan, I like pre-Disney Star Wars alright.

Being honest, it didn’t start out well. The first few episodes I found kind of boring and repetitive (HeY AlArA, cAn YoU oPeN tHiS jAr Of PiCkLeS (re: jammed door/hatch) or oh look, another distress call conveniently timed and placed to where we are in deep space. The sparse, dry jokes weren’t landing. The divorce bickering was getting old fast. I was expecting the dialogue to lean more towards comedy than drama.

Around I think episode S1:E5, the acting and writing really started to land for me. I started to care about the characters, and the stories of each episode were satisfying in a way that I haven’t felt with a lot of other shows.

I’m still on season 1, but I feel more confident about a DCC show than previously. I do hope that it isn’t/wouldn’t be the reason for Orville having only 3 seasons. I’m assuming streaming ROI, Covid, etc. don’t help things. I haven’t made it to the end of S3 to see if there was any jumping of the space shark, but I’m enjoying the ride thus far.

Half way through the topa episode and damn is it good 🙌. Season three so far has been amazing the "alien" & "twilight zone" are by far my favorite just love the syfy horror and land of the lost vibes. They really were taking their time setting up bortus being a complex character and the pay off is amazing. I just wish Issac was the same, him betraying his kind and his suicide was great but it seems they put him on the back burner. Wish he can start developing his own thoughts and opinions kind of getting tired of his responses and am hoping in the next episodes (especially his wedding) he shows more emotions.

First time drawing moclans, hope i did well 😅

Awaiting the 500 cigarette memes

As I’m writing this, I just finished the episode. I know that it’s already been talked to death and back, but I need to write this.

I haven’t gotten this angry at a fictional story in a long time, perhaps I’ve never even been this angry at a show before. I just know that I was at my breaking point with this one. Not that I won’t continue to watch the show, but goddamn did that get to me. It hurt, it physically hurt me to watch that happen.

My kudos to Scott Grimes for such a beautiful performance and allowing me to feel this way, as while what I’m feeling sucks horrendously right now, the fact that I’m able to feel it at all for something that isn’t real is really, really healthy for me personally.

I’m of the opinion that what Ed and Kelly did was wrong overall, but it was also extremely complicated. Yes, I read the thing where Seth talks about the whole “Laura’s true life” and whatnot, and while that obviously makes sense, it still doesn’t make it feel any less devastating. Yes, I also know that was the point of the episode, to showcase how complex and multifaceted that kind of situation is for all characters.

I want to know what you all think though, as it’s obviously a very divisive topic for all of us.