r/SoundSystem • u/PotentialAware2796 • 8d ago

starter sound system

Hello, i'm very new to sound systems, I wanted to know if art welter's keystone 18" sub would pair well with 2 the box pro Achat 110M, or is it better to make diy tops for a better price, im also not extremely good at woodworking so any more simple suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thank you:)

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u/PotentialAware2796 5d ago

Thank you, i was thinking of bigger subs but the problem is the price of it, because it adds a lot and im trying to fit into a budget. The keystone just seems like the best choice for the price:)

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u/DribbleDaNinja 5d ago

If you're self building, the additional wood required won't be that much. The extra time taken is your time, so there's no monetary outlay in that respect.

I'd build less but at a higher quality & then add to your rig as finances allow. It's all about scalability. The last thing you want is to outgrow your system & have to sell & rebuild. Build the best you can for your budget, & then add to it as your system grows. Trust me, it'll be the most cost effective option over time.

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u/PotentialAware2796 5d ago

Yeahh, I just saw that I would need a stronger amp, and more drivers, and that way the price rises by a lot, but maybe it would be better in the long run, thanks:)

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u/DribbleDaNinja 5d ago

Keystones, TH's, SKRAM's & Paraflex all work on quarterwave principles. You'll need drivers with a strong motor force (BL), a good Xmax & a decent AES rating. Your amps will need to be a least double the rating of your drivers, so you have ample headroom & don't need to run your system hot.

How many cabs are you planning on building? Is storage & deployment an issue?

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u/PotentialAware2796 5d ago

At first i'll jist try to build a single sub and maybe buy 2 tops, and later expand it if i need to. The problem with needing an additional driver and amp is too big for my budget :Dd, storage and deployment is not really an issue

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u/DribbleDaNinja 5d ago

If your budget can stretch to it, I'd build two subs & one double kick/mid/tops. 2 x 18" or 2 x 21" Paraflex ELF's & a V2 2x12 will cover you from 28hz - 22khz in a 3-way system. You'll then have the proper kit to build upon from there on, & will only require 1 decent amp to drive the ELF's, a smaller decent amp to drive the kick/mid-tops, & a good LMS DSP to drive everything.

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u/PotentialAware2796 5d ago

would be great if I had the money, but thank you for the suggestion :Dd, im trying to fit very tightly into 2k for my first system, doesn't really have to be great:)

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u/DribbleDaNinja 5d ago

After a quick calculation, for 2k - 2.5k you'll be able to achieve your aims if you build the 2 x ELFs & 1 x V2 2x12 cabs yourself, & use the recommended HOQS drivers which are far cheaper, but near the equivalent of leading industry components.

In terms of amps, you only need one powerful Admark DSP amp & a smaller Admark amp to handle your kick/mid-tops. At this point you'll have a solid foundation on which you can build from. The balance will be for distros, cables, leads etc.

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u/PotentialAware2796 5d ago

Ohh i looked it up, but it seems that the V2 2x12 doesnt really go high up in the frequencies so that might be a problem, maybe you have any other recomendations for the top, but maybe i just want too much for the budget i have :Dd. Still, thank you a lot for helping

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u/DribbleDaNinja 5d ago

The V2 2x12 has dual 1.4" compression drivers. Are you looking at the correct cabinet?

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u/PotentialAware2796 5d ago

hmm i cant find it online, is there a more specific name to it?

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u/PotentialAware2796 4d ago

it seems like this is an upgraded version with the horn in the middle, because the original plans dont have these compression drivers

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u/DribbleDaNinja 4d ago

This is the V2 2x12 in action. I'll find the plans & post them.

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u/PotentialAware2796 4d ago

Thank you! I really appreciate it

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u/DribbleDaNinja 4d ago

This is a link to the V2 2x12.

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u/DribbleDaNinja 4d ago

More of the V2 2x12 in action.

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