r/SoundSystem • u/PotentialAware2796 • 8d ago

starter sound system

Hello, i'm very new to sound systems, I wanted to know if art welter's keystone 18" sub would pair well with 2 the box pro Achat 110M, or is it better to make diy tops for a better price, im also not extremely good at woodworking so any more simple suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thank you:)

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u/DribbleDaNinja 5d ago

Keystones, TH's, SKRAM's & Paraflex all work on quarterwave principles. You'll need drivers with a strong motor force (BL), a good Xmax & a decent AES rating. Your amps will need to be a least double the rating of your drivers, so you have ample headroom & don't need to run your system hot.

How many cabs are you planning on building? Is storage & deployment an issue?

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u/PotentialAware2796 5d ago

At first i'll jist try to build a single sub and maybe buy 2 tops, and later expand it if i need to. The problem with needing an additional driver and amp is too big for my budget :Dd, storage and deployment is not really an issue

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u/DribbleDaNinja 5d ago

If your budget can stretch to it, I'd build two subs & one double kick/mid/tops. 2 x 18" or 2 x 21" Paraflex ELF's & a V2 2x12 will cover you from 28hz - 22khz in a 3-way system. You'll then have the proper kit to build upon from there on, & will only require 1 decent amp to drive the ELF's, a smaller decent amp to drive the kick/mid-tops, & a good LMS DSP to drive everything.

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u/PotentialAware2796 5d ago

would be great if I had the money, but thank you for the suggestion :Dd, im trying to fit very tightly into 2k for my first system, doesn't really have to be great:)

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u/DribbleDaNinja 5d ago

After a quick calculation, for 2k - 2.5k you'll be able to achieve your aims if you build the 2 x ELFs & 1 x V2 2x12 cabs yourself, & use the recommended HOQS drivers which are far cheaper, but near the equivalent of leading industry components.

In terms of amps, you only need one powerful Admark DSP amp & a smaller Admark amp to handle your kick/mid-tops. At this point you'll have a solid foundation on which you can build from. The balance will be for distros, cables, leads etc.

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u/PotentialAware2796 4d ago

Ohh i looked it up, but it seems that the V2 2x12 doesnt really go high up in the frequencies so that might be a problem, maybe you have any other recomendations for the top, but maybe i just want too much for the budget i have :Dd. Still, thank you a lot for helping

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u/DribbleDaNinja 4d ago

The V2 2x12 has dual 1.4" compression drivers. Are you looking at the correct cabinet?

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u/PotentialAware2796 4d ago

hmm i cant find it online, is there a more specific name to it?

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u/PotentialAware2796 4d ago

it seems like this is an upgraded version with the horn in the middle, because the original plans dont have these compression drivers

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u/DribbleDaNinja 4d ago

This is the V2 2x12 in action. I'll find the plans & post them.

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u/PotentialAware2796 4d ago

Thank you! I really appreciate it

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u/DribbleDaNinja 4d ago

This is a link to the V2 2x12.

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u/DribbleDaNinja 4d ago

More of the V2 2x12 in action.