Idk if this has been discussed here before but If the writers hadn’t done Brucas 2.0, what storylines would you have loved to see for Lucas and even Brooke in those seasons.

I’ve seen alot of people say Brucas should’ve never happened after s1 so I wanted to know what kind of storylines you would have loved to see from the characters if it didn’t happen

I'm watching the show for the first time and I'm on season 3 the Keith/Dan/Abby episodes and I always skip love scenes involving Mouth. I find he's a nice guy but I kinda feel they give him too much screen time. What do you think?

Okay, so Dan Scott bailed out Nathan from jail and while he was there he told Lucas about him wanting to be a part of his life.

They made it seem like he had just walked out on Lucas, but turns out he wanted to be a part of it but Karen didn't.

Karen confronted Dan about what he had told Lucas and went totally off on him for calling out her Bullshit. Which she kind of denies any accountability for her part and blames him for just wanting to hurt her, but were his feelings valid? He felt tired of being the bad guy in Lucas eyes. Karen wanted to protect her son from him, and obviously we can see how Dan has been to Nathan, so maybe her decision was somewhat valid. I'm not sure how to feel about this.

Then Keith found out that his whole opinion of his own brother was based on a lie. And I feel a bit bad, but I think he still thinks his brother's an asshole.

Anyone going to this event?

What do you think about Antwon doing this rewatch going to different cities?

We know Joy is coming for the Chicago one. Who all do you want to see?

I am hoping the live stream Internationally so people outside America can experience it too.

C’est tellement insupportable de voir Dan essayer de se rapprocher de Karen dans la saison 4 !! Vous en pensez quoi ?

those quinn and katie etc stories were pretty much boring, I was only there for dan redemption, they didnt need to extend this much, could have had dan nathan saving story just after season 6

Is it weird that I’m kind of bothered by everyone’s compassion for Jimmy Edwards? I understand that he was bullied, and I understand that he was left out, but when Lucas and mouth made valid points that Jimmy also never reached out to them to hang out Jimmy just disregarded that point. Also, I just feel like everyone was feeling so compassionate, and no one was angry at him for the situation except for Lucas.

I’m from Florida, I’ve been in two school shootings now. One at my high school and the other one in college. Maybe I felt less compassion for those shooters because of the fact that so many people died in the shootings that I was present for. I just feel like they didn’t show an accurate portrayal on how non-accepting of Jimmy Edwards people would have been after something like that.

Je regarde la série pour la millième fois, j’en suis à la saison 4 épisode 14 et quelque chose me frappe… Nathan vient rendre visite à sa mère Debbie lors de sa cure et il est tellement dur avec elle ! Il lui dit que ce n’est pas une maladie, hors si, les addictions c’est une maladie. Oui on peut s’en sortir avec de la volonté mais c’est très dur surtout sans entourage. Et Debbie est bien seule… Nathan n’est pas tant que ça la pour elle ni Karen. A part avoir essayer de l’envoyer en cure ils ont pas pris de le temps de trop l’écouter ! Heureusement que Haley propose qu’ils emménagent chez elle. En tout cas ça se voit que c’est une série des débuts années 2000 : on ne parlait pas de santé mentale. Et Deborah n’a pas que des problèmes d’addictions, elle a des problèmes de santé mentale, surtout une grosse dépression. J’ai l’impression que Karen et Nathan sont plus indulgents avec Dan qu’avec Debbie ça m’agace ! Et aussi qu’ils ferment les yeux sur le fait que ce soit Dan qui contribue au mal être de Debbie !! Quand elle a fait sa tentative de suicide il n’a rien dit aux autres, il a juste appeler les pompiers et au moment de rejoindre Karen pour dîner il dit qu’il a eu un petit empêchement.. C’est vraiment un gros connard avec elle, même si je conçois qu’il doit lui en vouloir de l’avoir tué lors de l’incendie alors qu’il pensait que c’était Keith… Bref j’avais envie de partager ça avec vous !

I am scrolling through the sub right now and all i am seeing is the hate for Brooke? Like? Now is okay to go for someone’s boyfriend TWICE just because Peyton couldn’t communicate with Brooke TWICE about her feelings for Lucas? I mean, she had a boyfriend at the time, Brooke asked her if it was okay to have something with Lucas, she said YES IT IS OKAY.

“Payton did not have the time to process her feelings for Lucas” well okay then, why didn’t she go for him or stayed with him when they both cheadet on Brooke behid her back? Or why didn’t she go for him when Brooke and Lucas were obviously broken up? Peyton constantly reassured Brooke that there was nothing going on between them. AND ALSO!!! Blame the girls?? No we r blaming Lucas for knowing how they both felt. Like where is the LUCAS HATE? Messing up witj both girls when you know how they are feeling for you, constantly manipulating them and showing feelings for both of them because you are a dumb guy who cannot choose.

The thing that really annoyed me was that peyton had the chance to be with Lucas he said he liked her before he started dating Brooke and peyton was the one to say “I just wanna be friends” but then as soon as Brooke is dating Lucas then she decides she wants to be with him. And when her and Haley seen Brooke at the mall when she was sobbing peyton was laughing at her.

They BOTH were in the wrong in some situations but going after someone’s boyfriend TWICE is outrageous, sorry not sorry.

So in Season 3, when basketball season starts again, Lucas is out of shape, constantly out of breath, and lagging behind the rest of the team, he takes responsibility for it and tells Whitey not to blame everyone else for his condition. Of course, Whitey responds by pushing the entire team even harder in practice.

Now, I know Nathan was angry at Lucas at the time because of the whole Dan situation and because Lucas went to see Haley after Nathan specifically asked him not to. Personally, I always found that entire conflict ridiculous. It felt like the writers were trying to reset them back to Season 1 for drama's sake.

But even with all of that going on, I feel like Nathan should have noticed something was off. Lucas wasn't just rusty, he was struggling physically.

I always thought Nathan should have been the first person to ask: "Hey, man, about that HCM test... are you sure you don't have it? What's going on?"
It's strange to me that Nathan never once seemed to consider the possibility that Lucas had lied about the results. Instead, everyone just accepted that Lucas was out of shape and moved on. Looking back, it feels like a pretty obvious conclusion that nobody even thought to explore.

I’m just curious where Lucas as a character falls for people outside of the LucasxPeytonxBrooke triangle. If Lucas never went for Brooke the 2nd time around, would people actually consider him to be one of the best characters? Or is there more to it?

I’m on S1E15, and since the beginning, it’s obvious the show is clearly setting up Peyton and Lucas as the endgame. But Brooke and Lucas just have so much chemistry. They’re exciting and fun to watch together. Once Lucas started cheating with Peyton, I found myself skipping most of their scenes because they were so boring to me. It honestly made me wonder if anyone actually likes their.. thing lol.

Say that the actors for both characters were able to find an agreement to stay on for an additional season seven, eight, and nine or forever the reason just were able to be in it no matter what the background drama was or negotiations or the known issues with Mark. Whatever that may be.

I was curious and I don’t know if this has been discussed before, if Peyton and Lucas had been in the last three seasons of the show instead of leaving at the end of season six what do you think in your mind their stories would go. And I don’t mean just in a general sense of what you would hope would happen. But in the sense of what we know was common when it comes to Peyton‘s character to be made to go through a lot of traumatic scenarios whether or not they were realistic at times or fair. Would they make them go through some marriage troubles again? Another pregnancy with the same old risk of the last one? Another stalker?

Every line mouth says is either a motivational speech or some nostalgic sentiment piece even in day to day conversations he turns it into a life lesson for no reason. I get he’s a “sports presenter” type but it’s so cringe and off putting. Anyone else find this just straight up annoying?

When I first watched OTH as a teenager, I was completely consumed by the teenage angst. It was all about Team Lucas vs. Team Nathan, Brucas vs. Leyton, and who was dating whom in Tree Hill!
But I’m doing a rewatch now as an adult, and let me tell you... the kids are boring.
The kids' drama feels like a middle school playground compared to the psychological warfare happening in the Scott family adulthood.
Anyone else experience this shift on their rewatch?

Edit:

Maybe I didn’t explain myself very well. I’m only on Season 1 of my rewatch, and what surprised me is how much of the Dan/Keith/Karen/Deb storyline I missed when I first watched as a teenager because I was so focused on Lucas, Nathan et all.

Back then I was invested in who was dating who. Watching as an adult, I’m finding the older Scott family dynamics a lot more compelling because I understand the adult conflicts and consequences better. It’s not that the kids’ storylines are bad—I just appreciate a different side of the show now.

By episode 3 she called out Lucas for not respecting boundaries and being inappropriate with Peyton. She said she saw a look in his eyes and he seems like the type to cheat and gaslight. This may be the first time I’ve seen someone make this prediction about Lucas early on without any future knowledge.

I’ve been watching with her and not giving anything away, but she’s the type to pause and do deep character analysis so it’s been fun to see her thoughts and opinions. She’s loving the show and characters a lot so far!

I don’t understand there relationship at all in season 3 from both the sides
• when Brooke b**bs where showing to whole school on time capsule episode she was trying to stop the video as well whitey but lucas was standing there watching the video instead of stopping it that’s not how boyfriend react honestly
•how Brooke always sleep with guys and blame on being drunk first with nathan than chris and by the she is sleeping with chris is much worse than lucas kissed peyton as peyton initiated the kiss and she was shot down
• brooke and lucas breakup felt like not lucas fault in 3 season it felt more of like Brooke was trying to protect her heart to not get hurt again

Whitey was such a sweetie! Karen slapping him while he went over to console her was just so unnecessary 😕

Currently rewatch the show in Netflix and was on season 2 ep 5 and man Netflix has so many scenes which prime doesn't have!!! It is like a whole new episode!! Did anyone else notice it??

Okay. So I'm up to episode 16 and I couldn't be more flabbergasted at how things turned out for Brooke.

One moment I'm really not into her character, thinking she's just a shallow girl, the next I'm seeing her true self and it's just heart-warming. Then it gets utterly fucked by her best friend and hard love boyfriend.

I can't believe how things have turned out for her and honestly can't stand how Lucas and Peyton did her so dirty.

This girl is trying to understand and know Lucas. She thinks of some creative things for dates, however, sometimes she seemed like a horndog. Nevertheless, she proves time again and again how she shows up to be the best she can be for their relationship.

THIS LADY EVEN SHOWS UP EVERYDAY AT THE HOSPITAL JUST TO BE BY HIS SIDE. Nahhh I'm not having this bungalow bum mines.

What do you think?

I am currently rewatch the show and man Haley handled it so well. Honestly kudos to the actress Joy who said in the podcast she had to really fight to not make Haley look hysterical. She had a very valid concern.

Especially her line. "I gave you my heart, and that’s all I can give you, and if that’s not enough, then I’m not enough." It was so well done!!

No spoilers please but is the show still enjoyable without Peyton and Lucas? I only know that they leave at the end of season 6. They aren’t like the most stand out characters to me but I do enjoy them still.

julian and jamie’s dynamic is so cute. the movie premiere and bonding over baseball, this storyline was so adorable!!

Few episodes in and I don’t understand or like Haley. She’s supposed to be Lukas’ best friend but ends up defending and falling for the guy who bullies him. Not just any type of jerk behavior either but he says and does right down horrible things to Lukas, and shows no other redeeming qualities. Honestly WTF.