r/DelphiMurders • u/Southern_Sweet_T • Apr 27 '26

Help me understand!

New to this case and feel like I must be missing a lot of info. How is it possible this Allen guy never committed any other crimes? No history of anything? Nothing violent, not even a bar fight or something? And just escalated to double murder? And then never did it again? This is truly mind blowing to me. I’m sure this guy did it but it’s just so shocking this guy went from zero to double homicide.

And what is the suspected motive? He just always wanted to do it and finally had the opportunity? He snapped?

I’m so very confused.

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u/reininglady88 Apr 29 '26

I think it was because he never set out to kill. I think this was intended to be a sexual assault that escalated into murder. Current societal rhetoric tells us that any who commits murder must have a long history of crime, past incidents of violence, harming animals, etc. and while that can be a sign of psychopathy, it is not true for every murderer. While no evidence of sexual assault was noted on the girls (aka no bruising or bodily fluids), the fact that both of these little girls were naked in front of this man absolutely indicates a sexually motivated crime. I believe he was intoxicated, then panicked because he knew his life would be over if word got out that he attempted to SA two little girls. Allan was a deeply insecure man that knew his wife and family would be horrified if the girls told what he had done. A murdered child cannot tell on their perp and he probably thought he would get away with it. Had he not been recorded on the girls phone he likely would have.

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u/Thick-Independence49 Apr 30 '26

I don't think he would have assaulted them and had no plans to leave...he was going to remain in a small town, working at a CVS if two girls had lived to tell about it?????

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u/TallBoysenberry6515 Apr 29 '26

If he ended up murdering them before any sexual assault was even performed, he most certainly was planning on murdering them after one was as well. He always set out to kill.

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u/schase44 May 01 '26

Do you think the phone was the catalyst, or telling the police he was at the trails that day?

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u/Jackniferuby May 03 '26

“Societal rhetoric “ isn’t what tells us that escalation is a thing. Decades of data from researching killers and rapists does.

It is extremely unusual that someone’s first incident would result in a crime like this. Not just because it was a homicide. But moreso because it was done in the middle of the day, in a public place outside and it was TWO victims at once.

All of those indicate a level of confidence as well as a skill set derived from experience.

I don’t think Allen has either . I also don’t think he is the killer. Not because I have any sort of empathy or emotions regard for him , but moreso because not a single thing about him fits the profile of this crime. I’m in the RL camp. I think LE dropped the ball, there is a massive amount of politics happening here and they needed a conviction.

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u/Bigbluehouse1 May 03 '26

The use of genetic dna doesn’t agree with you. Many one and done killers have been found recently because of genetic ancestry testing

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u/Jackniferuby 28d ago

This wasn’t one a done. It was 2 victims at once. Also, I’m aware of developments in recent years with DNA and genealogical investigations. I consulted with both the FBI and the Santa Barbara police department on the Golden State Killer case in exactly that area. Due to GEDMatch and other DNA databases we have been able to find justice for many victims. But no, we haven’t found any cold case homicides that were the result of kidnapping minor strangers that were “one and done”. If you feel like we have - please comment links to that information. The vast majority are serial killers and completely different situations regarding the victims relationship to the killer.

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u/favorable_vampire 25d ago

Listen to DNA ID. There’s TONS of one and done killers being caught with DNA right now. Sorry that facts don’t agree with you here.

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u/reininglady88 24d ago

Tanner Horner literally just did this. First major crime was a sexually motivated kidnapping and murder of a child. Happened during the day, in a billboard of a vehicle. It happens.