r/victorinox • u/Beethoven_says • 17h ago

Identify this Elinox (& logo)?

I found this in my father's belongings. It says 'Elinox' on one side of the blade, and Victorinox/Switzerland/Stainless/Rostfrei on the other. The logo confuses me as I can't find a Messerli company that was founded in 1876 (I assume that's why the date is there). Any help appreciated!

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u/Punished-Again 16h ago

Model 2230 maybe 1957-1965

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u/Beethoven_says 15h ago

Thanks. Any clue on the logo/name? It seems there was an Albert Messerli born in 1876, and the Messerli company wasn't created until the 20thC (I know the name is 'little knife' but it looks like a company/person name).

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u/simfes 5h ago

Messerli Informationstechnik (gegründet 1876)

Messerli Informationstechnik was a company founded in 1876; it changed hands several times and has now been fully absorbed into Canon Production Printing.

You won't find any mention of this on the English Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_Production_Printing), but you will on the German-language version (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_Production_Printing):

Der gemeinsame Hauptsitz der Océ (Schweiz) AG und der Canon (Schweiz) AG war in Wallisellen  bei Zürich angesiedelt. 1997 übernahm Océ die Mehrheit der Aktien von Messerli Informationstechnik (gegründet 1876), die dadurch 1998 in Océ (Schweiz) AG umbenannt wurde

==> joint headquarters of Océ Switzerland AG and Canon Switzerland AG was located in Wallisellen, near Zurich. In 1997, Océ acquired a majority stake in Messerli Informationstechnik (founded in 1876), which was subsequently renamed Océ (Switzerland) AG in 1998

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u/Beethoven_says 3h ago

Thank you for that!! It seems it's connected to the current Messerli.live company. Unfortunately, given the toxic levels of 'corporate speak' and 'hot air' on that website I had to go and lie down for a while. However, I really do thank you for the lead 😄

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u/simfes 3h ago

No, you're mistaken. Messerli.Live has nothing to do with the defunct company "Messerli Informationstechnik." The name "Messerli Informatik" might be even closer, but they even state to make it clear: There is absolutely no connection!

There are more than 3,400 people in Switzerland with the name "Messerli." With just over 9 million inhabitants, that’s a fairly large percentage.

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u/Punished-Again 1h ago

does the logo add anything to the story? did you find that logo actually in use by one of those companies?