r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Mar 29 '26

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u/Fickle_Diamond220 African Union Mar 29 '26

 What's frustrating to me is that I don't see trans people hate the Republican party enough. A lot of the discourse is "well Democrats don't fight hard enough for us," meanwhile REPUBLICANS ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO KILL YOU.

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Sometimes this subreddit really is deranged about trans people. There’s no way you can seriously believe trans people aren’t voting for democrats with Assad margins. 

Gosh if there’s one thing that unites 99% of trans people it’s hating republicans. 

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u/BroadReverse Needs a Flair Mar 29 '26

Counterpoint: I saw a tweet with 7 likes saying the opposite. Care to explain????

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u/ImmigrantJack Movimiento Semilla Mar 29 '26

Counterpoint: Caitlyn Jenner still exists

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u/Max_the_Madman European Union Mar 29 '26

This subreddit is really bad handling disagreements.

For all the calls to nuance, this place often displays a very strong 'with us or against us' mentality. Criticism, doubt or gaps in knowledge are seen as treasonous.

And the worst part is: this is partially justified. It's nigh impossible to overstate how evil the GOP is. It's an actual threat to the human civilisation.

Yes, the Democrats a basically saints compared to them. But lets not pretend they actually are. It's their fault after all.

Yes I said it! Downvote all you want!

Of course the Republicans have agency! Every day we see a new detail of how preplanned all of this was.

But let me ask you this? Did Democrats do anything to stop this? Did they do anything about Fox News plunging a third of the country in permanent mass hysteria? About the climate change denial? About social media spreading delusions and hate? About large swaths feeling abandoned by the government and ripe for apathy or radicalisation? About the legacy of racism and red scare thoroughly poisoning American politics?

I'm sure they did. But obviously this wasn't enough. An evidence-based community like this should judge actions by their results rather than intent. And the results say that the Democrats failed. Liberals coasted on their success for to long and got blind-sided.

You can be angry at the masses all you want. You're justified even. But it won't do anything. Instead think how you should do better. History rewards pragmatism, not righteousness.

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u/Most_Estimate_7062 Mar 29 '26

i think it's genuinely pretty disgusting if you can't actually respond to the point that it feels like democrats are abandoning trans people and have to deflect to this

we're literally watching what this attitude leads to in britain right now

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u/Fickle_Diamond220 African Union Mar 29 '26

I'm contesting the point that trans people don't hate republicans enough and if you've ever seen me comment you'll know how much I've trashed labour for turncoating trans people.

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u/Most_Estimate_7062 Mar 29 '26

I know, i'm agreeing with you

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u/Fickle_Diamond220 African Union Mar 29 '26

Sorry I misinterpreted.

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u/AmericanDadWeeb Zhao Ziyang Mar 30 '26

Counterpoint: we have to be around our trans friends and family while they do this shit, and we should be like this until 100% of all trans people vote and 100% of them vote dem (unless they can’t vote, and even then I’d prefer it if they tried to commit voter fraud)