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News Article Iran stops negotiations with U.S., vows to 'completely' block Strait of Hormuz: State media

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/01/iran-us-negotiations-strait-of-hormuz.html

The article says Iran announced Monday it will cut off all negotiations with the U.S. and move to fully close the Strait of Hormuz, citing Israeli military operations in Lebanon as ceasefire violations. Tehran also threatened to activate the Bab el-Mandeb Strait chokepoint connecting the Red Sea to the Gulf of Aden. Oil prices jumped over 7 percent on the news.

The breakdown comes just days after Trump convened a Situation Room meeting to decide on a deal but left without making a decision. Trump posted on May 23 that a peace deal was "largely negotiated" and "Final aspects and details of the Deal are currently being discussed, and will be announced shortly." Both sides launched new attacks in the following days, and Israel escalated in Lebanon with Netanyahu ordering strikes on Hezbollah-controlled Beirut suburbs. Iran's foreign minister said the ceasefire applies to all fronts including Lebanon, and violations on one front constitute violations on all.

The Strait of Hormuz has been effectively choked off since the war began on February 28, with ship traffic far below the prewar level of 100+ vessels per day. About a fifth of global oil supplies passed through the strait before the conflict. Gas prices had come down some in recent weeks on deal optimism, but that appears to be evaporating. There are also concerns Iran could impose a tolling system on ships transiting the strait.

Trump posted on Truth Social that Iran "really wants to make a deal" and told critics to "just sit back and relax, it will all work out well in the end. It always does!"

If Iran really wants to make a deal why are they walking away form negotiations? If the US is winning this war, why are we suing for peace?

The answer is because Iran's strategy is working. Our president and the "secretary of war" who was confirmed by one vote are not reliable sources of information.

They have been preparing for this war for decades and they know how to win it. Choking off a fifth of global oil supply has driven U.S. gas prices up 50%, cratered Trump's approval ratings, and Republicans are openly panicking about the midterms. They know the situation trump has created is FUBAR and they know they're cooked in november. Iran doesn't need to win on the battlefield. They just need to hold out and make the economic pain unsustainable until the administration comes to terms.

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u/shaymus14 1d ago

The answer is because Iran's strategy is working.

They have been preparing for this war for decades and they know how to win it. 

I'm not going to argue that this was a smart war or that things are going how the Trump administration wants them to, but in what world is Iran winning?

Their navy and air force have been significantly degraded. They don't have air superiority in their own country. It's been firmly established that the US and Israel can attack Iranian targets inside their borders and Iran can't stop them. Their neighbors are alienated. Their economy is in free fall, there's massive inflation in the country, millions have been laid off, and there are reportedly food and fuel shortages. Continued use of their best weapon, closure of the straight, would further alienate regional powers and likely lead to further blockade of Iranian shipping. 

Even if Trump caves or this lasts till a Dem blowout in November, it's hard to see a scenario where the Iranian regime comes out of this is in a significantly strengthened position. 

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u/dr_sloan 1d ago

Iran’s Air Force has basically always been for show and no one expected them to seriously contest air superiority. They’ve built the strength of their military on missiles and drones and they’ve shown that they can continue launch operations even with the U.S. and Israel holding air superiority and, worse, that they’re missiles and drones are capable of piercing missile defenses and doing major damage.

I wouldn’t argue that they’re winning, but their strategy does appear to be working. The question is basically which sides economic damage will force them to accept a deal, and the Iranians aren’t in the position to protest their government and live.

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u/Tom18558 1d ago

Major damage? Where?

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u/dr_sloan 22h ago

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u/Tom18558 21h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_war

Per Iran: United States: 12+ radar and satellite systems destroyed or damaged

Seems rather minor to me (you can even look up the specific types of radar etc).

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u/dr_sloan 21h ago

The radars alone are worth multiple billions of dollars and that’s before you get into the aircraft destroyed on the ground. If you would like to characterize the damage done to the majority of bases in the Middle East as minor that’s your decision, but it’s not supported by the satellite imagery evidence.

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u/Tom18558 21h ago edited 20h ago

Wiki shows you the damage as per Iran.

Hence, it doesn't seem reasonable to assume more actual damage.

I think we just have a different take on minor/major. How would you call Iran's losses?

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u/dr_sloan 21h ago

I don’t care what Wikipedia says “per Iran”. We have actual satellite imagery showing major parts of bases completely burned out and reports that multiple bases have been evacuated. Iran’s losses have been major but that’s irrelevant since they still have plenty of their primary weapons, missiles and drones.

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u/Tom18558 20h ago

I simply find the term major damage overblown.

The satellite imagery ( links you posted) doesn't show anything (in fact less damage), which wouldn't be in line with wiki.

Just considere total assets deployed - it's gonna be such a miniscule fraction...

Negligable damage - I think - would be more accurate ;)

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u/dr_sloan 20h ago

Cool, you’re welcome to think whatever you like. Personally I think if you’re looking at those images and seeing multiple burned out buildings and thinking that’s “negligible”, there’s not much to gain by discussing the topic.

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u/Tom18558 12h ago edited 1h ago

Hey, you are too! Why chat or comment at all?

Personally I think if you're looking at those images and ignore plain numbers, there's not much to gain, either.

Have a good one :)

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