r/Genshin_Lore • u/Main_coorp • 6d ago

Abyss Mc's ability to absorb the abyss explaination theory

I think that i might discover why/ how the Mc can absorb/Purify the abyss.

So frist of all we know by Alice that the abyss is created by all the fate that will not pass to happen and i think it means that when a fate is not choose or know they're nott gonna be chosen they turn into hatred who turned into abyss. And we also know that Hp's have build a predetermined fate to Teyvat and there's go my theory.

The Traveler being a descender means that he's not contrain by the rules of Teyat, neither to their fate. So they're able to change the world fate and by that making a fate that will not pass to happen... Happen. So i think that when they purify the abyss they created the possiblility of those fate who became abyss may happen.

Because all the fates that are not the predetermined one are supposed to never happen. But the only existence of Traveler give a hope to those fate who were thinking that they weren't gonna be chosen and so their hope erased their hatred thus transfom the abyss to another form.

Don't know if it clear written there but this is clear in my head. But i may be wrong so correct le if you disagree and ot will be helpful to get your argument.

Anyway have a Great day!

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u/hadtiah 5d ago

Well for one the abyss sibling can also absorbe the abyss while not being a descender

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u/Main_coorp 5d ago

I think it's because Irmin king make them become a abyss receptacle and i remember that when it's the AT, the abyss don't turn to yellow while absorbing it. So maybe for them it's just straight up absorbation and not transformation like the MC. 

But could be wrong. It's one of the part of my Theory that's i'm not sure about. 

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u/hadtiah 5d ago

Transformation? The traveler absorbs the abyss and it stays inside them, skirk even mentioned that they can use the abyss.

It's been a long time but in Albedo's quest we are made to drink something and at the end it shows that inside the bottle is filled with something that worries Albedo, I think that was the abyss and they even alude that Albedo and the traveler are of the same type of being, in Nicole's voice line about albedo she calls him a primordial human

"Albedo: I made a point throughout of telling (‍him‍/‍her‍) how ordinary the results were...

Albedo: But what was that sediment I saw forming at the bottom of the vial? It should not have been there... What could it mean?

Albedo: Those born of earth are bound by its imperfections, but those born of chalk are free of impurities... You and I are alike, both composed of a substance that has yet to be fully defined..."

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u/hadtiah 5d ago

"In another converged possibility, Albedo was the "Primordial Human" who traveled through worlds, recording and creating all. However, once that journey reached its end, no one would have been able to guarantee whether he would choose destruction or salvation. Luckily, you're the one who embarked on the journey this time. Hm? How did the alternate Albedo fare? I can no longer observe that possibility. Besides, copying someone else's answer is of little use. This journey is your own." - Nicole Reeyn

This is what Nicole says about Albedo

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u/Main_coorp 5d ago

Yeah but what i mean is that the colour don't change when it's the AT doing it and it will have no sense to do different colours if it wasn't to point that there's a little diffrence. 

And even the MC straight up absorb it that only erasa one argument not the totality of the theory. Like i said it could be that Irmin king have maid the AT an abyssal receptacle or that he try to create a descender and maybe it works but not totally wich means that i have only a part of the ability.

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u/hadtiah 5d ago

When have we seen the AT absorb the abyss?

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u/Main_coorp 5d ago

Not absorbing but using it. They create a portal on the first Dain's quest and it's only purple not yellow.

And it's funny that you ask me that while being the one who bring "the AT can absorb it too" topic 

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u/hadtiah 5d ago

Well it's been mentioned that they were made to absorb the abyss, and the abyss that the sinners took is from the AT. You mention that the golden light isn't there when they absorb it so I ask if we saw it happen but no.

Absorbing and using it is different, the traveler has never used the abyss they had always absorb it. And so far the twin's original power is golden light. When they fight Asmoday they had golden energy.

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u/Main_coorp 4d ago

Yeah but when we fight Asmoday they haven't became the fifth sinner yet

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u/hadtiah 4d ago

Hwa?

The five sinners are Surtalogi, Rhinedotter, Veldrfolnir, Rerir, and Hroptatyr

And they became sinners before the twins fight Asmoday as the cataclysm started with the rebellion they did

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u/Main_coorp 4d ago

Ah okk.  But the twin haven't became a member of the abyss order yet and even if they have become nothing forced them to use their abyss power and they could just keep it as a secret.

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u/iamonlyslightlysalty 6d ago

holy guacamole that's a really interesting interpretation actually

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u/kontis 5d ago

Cool theory, but doesn't that create a circular reasoning fallacy?

I mean, the whole reason (seemingly) why Phanes made Teyvat deterministic was to make it safe from Abyss (no choices -> no hatred of unchosen).

Traveler "fixing it" feels like going back to the starting point, which is "Abyss invades Teyvat".

Unless this is some convoluted idea of the fireman needing an arsonist to purposefully create the problem, so that he can become a hero of a new green forest... It wouldn't be the first time Hoyo was inspired by AoT, so it's not implausible that Phanes decided to be a "villain" scapegoat to save humanity.

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u/Main_coorp 5d ago edited 5d ago

The thing is that Phanes didn't create a predermined fate to stop the abyss creation. He made it because if he's able give a predetermined to Teyvat,  he will choose to make one where the abyss don't invade the world.

I don't know where people get the idea of that there are no unchosen fate with Phanes plan . There's will be unused fate each time a fate is chosen, no matter of the fate has been choose by Phanes's predetermined fate, Traveler's action, are others people.  

Or at least this is what i can understand.

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u/Fearless_Peak3583 5d ago

The thing is, the Traveler is a Descender, but the Abyss twin isn’t. This disparity is suspicious. The Abyss twin landed in Teyvat like 6,000 years ago, while the Traveler returned only 550 years ago.

Maybe something unexpected happened, and the Traveler has an ability they shouldn’t have.

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u/ZadriaktheSnake 6d ago

So how exactly is the abyss present outside Teyvat if it’s specifically unused fate

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u/Alpha06Omega09 6d ago

There is unused fate of multiple galaxies? Every choice is a fate killed.