r/ArmaReforger • u/SwitchbackCardinal • 6d ago
1.7 Update In 1.7 Humvee Only Turns with Left Wheel.
Am I missing something or its intentional?
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u/Sky_guy_17 6d ago
Remember kids; It isn’t a true Arma: Reforger update if Bohemia doesn’t break every aspect of the game, big or small, in some shape or form.
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u/greennitit Staff Sergeant 6d ago
Why fix something that isn’t broken? The entire community complaining about dog crap performance and BI decide instead to work on vehicle physics
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u/Sky_guy_17 6d ago
Hence why the majority of people were pretty much dreading the release of 1.7, given Reforger only just seemed to be returning to a state of normality after the disaster that was 1.6
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u/The_fatal_haIf_inch 6d ago
If you wanna know what the state of the game looks like in a few years just take a look at DayZ 😂
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u/peeknuts Sergeant 5d ago
I imagine the vehicle physic changes were mostly related to A4 but shoe horned into Reforger
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u/Suspicious-Physics49 1d ago
Are Bohemia and CIG friends? I swear my expectations are low after playing Star Citizen for so long lol
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u/Exp5000 Sergeant 6d ago
Companies like Bohemia don't operate like what you saw in Grandmas Boy. Likey it's segmented and silo'd teams who hardly even know each other and as a result you get this shit. When millions of dollars are involved in these companies, the issues actually stem from the suits and not the devs themselves.
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u/SwitchbackCardinal 6d ago
klamacz who's working on Reforger said teams working on Reforger and A4 are separate, so since its one team doing 1.7 that isnt even that complex, I'd expect higher quality in release to stable.
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u/TheSpaceFace Second Lieutenant 6d ago
This is not how Bohemia work at all.
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u/FrederickFrag1899 Private 5d ago
Don't mean to be an ass but how would you know? Like genuinely?
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u/TheSpaceFace Second Lieutenant 5d ago
Because they’ve been very transparent about how their team operates and works on Reddit and on YouTube through their meet the team series.
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u/coreyfromwork Private First Class 6d ago
They need to revert the driving mechanics, they’re so awful now. Very arcade-like and unrealistic
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u/AstralisKL Sergeant 5d ago
We should also talk the helicopter flying as well, it's equally arcade-like and unrealistic just like Arma 3. Doesnt need to be DCS
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u/AstralisKL Sergeant 5d ago edited 5d ago
Old driving wasn't any better if my memory is right, wheels acted like they were just on texture instead of actual terrain... Than again, these vehicles were designed for it.
Or am I tripping.
we're talking 2022 driving right
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u/mikpyt Sergeant 5d ago
You are. Old driving rewarded believable handling like slowing down for a 90° crossing instead of blasting through it at 70 kph, and punished you for driving like a maniac.
...or rewarded it with hilarious crashes, depending on your perspective. New handling is ass.
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u/Daddyletloose 5d ago
New handling feels more realistic
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u/Faithful-Llama-2210 USSR 5d ago
Sounds like you've never driven a motor vehicle in your life
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u/AstralisKL Sergeant 5d ago
You're asking too much from Bohemia if you want BeamNG driving lol
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u/Faithful-Llama-2210 USSR 5d ago
I don't want BeamNG driving I literally just want what we had last week instead of the bad mobile game physics we have now
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u/mikpyt Sergeant 5d ago
The thing is, we had a much better model, here, in this game. I used to advertise Reforger to folks "yeah, but the driving physics are really awesome, you should check it out, real step forward". And they cut that. One thing were Enfusion ArmA was objectively better than RV ArmA.
I was always against kneejerk hate for new updates but this is the first time they consciously took a step backwards in realism, that's concerning. People screaming "console enshittification" used to be only niche folks sour they lost super complex modded systems from A3. Here, without a doubt, Bohemia enshittified a core gameplay system they already had, for some reason I don't yet understand.
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u/Chaosr21 Sergeant 6d ago
I haven't played since the changed but wtf bohemia. The driving was fine, nobody asked for changes.l besides the de-symc issues. So I'm guessing the humvee only turns with one wheel because it's no longer simulated.. just some arcadey bs code that doesn't match reality in the fame, like Forza horizon or some shit
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u/atantony77 5d ago
The funny part is people who played experimental have been saying the same shot for 1-2 months and they still decided to release it lmao.
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u/RainAt12AM- 6d ago
Yea this update was not needed. We just recovered from 1.6 especially the xbox homies now this
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u/Playful-Actuary6022 6d ago
I legit just got the perfect mod setup on Xbox and this happens.😭😭😭
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u/Nico_T_3110 6d ago
Are we still forced to play on 1080p and stereo uncompressed on xbox to reduce the freezes and so on or is that fixed now
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u/peeknuts Sergeant 5d ago
Game was meant to be on console, hence why it released at the same time as PC.
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u/HVACBadgeKing 6d ago
This and using binoculars crashing the game ughh I guess I’ll just play forza until it’s fixed
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u/JETYBOI91 Staff Sergeant 5d ago
Forza and Subnautica 2 gave me joy for once after spending months waiting for this game to get fixed, its in such a sorry state i cant believe they are still pushing out half assed and incomplete updates. Shit is worse then warthunder updates
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u/john681611 6d ago
Looks like a bug Report it to BI though feeback and BI issue tracker.
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u/trytoinfect74 Private 6d ago
ordinary users of an application shouldn’t do a free work of documenting and posting bugs at the bug tracker, at this point it’s an unpaid free labor
t. person who created about 20-25 tickets on BI feedback tracker?l, about 2 or 3 of were ultimately resolved
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u/Modern_Doshin Sergeant 6d ago
I hear what you are saying, private. Sometimes players discover bugs that a playtester wouldn't think to do. But yeah, this seems like pure lazy.
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u/carsnbikesnplanes 6d ago
The entire point of this game is to test things for arma 4. It’s literally an engine testbed that has playable game modes, the players are the testers. The devs have been EXTREMELY clear about this?
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u/trytoinfect74 Private 6d ago
If this was a free product I would agree. The entire point of this game is to make money - it's an actual product being sold for real money (40$, btw), not some kind of Early Access title, Arma 4 test bed, paid beta for Arma 4 or whatever it will be called. You do not have to expect unpaid labour of documenting your bug tickets from your customers, users have no obligation do it and they have all the rights to expect working product they paid money for.
This "Arma 4 test bed" regularely resurfacing claim is literally just a lame excuse for poor technical state of the game and I'm tired of pretending it's not. They had like 4 YEARS to fix it and it's still a turd of the codebase that constaly crashes (especially Workbench), works poorly on consoles.
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u/SwitchbackCardinal 6d ago
I'm gonna wait and see how long it takes for BI QA to notice that themselves
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u/Key_Gate9444 6d ago
at this point i cant wait to see what the game will be like once BI is fully 100% done with Reforger content and updates/support wise. i remember playing the training scenario like just weeks ago and the officers had some crazy wicked facial expressions, eyes popping out and everything.
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u/RabidCadaver Staff Sergeant 6d ago
This is why we played modded servers
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u/Mintoregano 6d ago
Modded servers fucked it up more
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u/RabidCadaver Staff Sergeant 5d ago
Most modded servers are too dependent on native tools. Try ReforgedZ. They have built a lot of independent infrastructure to compensate for BI’s “testing period” aka Reforger. They even make their own vehicles
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u/Mintoregano 5d ago
I’m talking about conflict.
Conflict was the best gamemode ever made an and it’s become shit after 1.4 update
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u/Ill_Writing_5 6d ago
Anyone else’s binoculars crash the game when you use them?
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u/CJFarrelly01 5d ago
A chap was saying this last night on vanilla server. Xbox player. All fine on ps5
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u/BortOfTheMonth 5d ago
Its already mentioned on this subreddit with reply from a Dev and a workaround.
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u/Substantial_War6554 5d ago
Shouldn’t be an issue in the first place lol
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u/BortOfTheMonth 5d ago
As I understood it its not always crashing when using binos but only if widescreen and HDR. So I for one say shit like this happens especially in a evolving sandbox game like armar.
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u/Choice_Champion_7708 5d ago
I started playing a solos arma 3 antistasi playthrough recently and it made me realize just how abandoned this game feels compared to arma 3. You'd think arma 3 came out after reforger
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u/Valhallaseeker2 5d ago
Sounds pretty accurate…especially if it starts skipping and jumping mid-turn, be reliving my glory days
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u/Individual_Path_8508 5d ago
After every update there’s always some funky stuff
Just be patient and wait about week or 2 for all the feedback to go to the devs and should be fixed shortly
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u/Healthy_Ad1840 4d ago
This is accurate to the real world humvees of that era. They only turned with left wheel.
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u/belooooooo_ 6d ago
You’re not missing anything, this is working as intended. Arma has always been hyper realistic. In real life Humvees only turn with the left wheel when the driver is left-handed. Git gud and learn to counter-steer with one wheel like the pros.
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u/WorkingAncient3555 5d ago
I mean. Have you driven a HMMWV in real life. Sometimes that’s a thing. I appreciate the realism.
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u/alllllBiMyseeeeeelf 6d ago edited 6d ago
Having driven too many of these, this seems accurate enough to me. You'll be turning, just more like a 747.
ETA: do your pmcs to the t, keep your fucking hand receipts. There's two unforgivable sins, under god, that's blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and pissing off anyone you get a 90% of your hand receipt from. Do not sign sight unseen.
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u/InformalYesterday760 Sergeant 6d ago
Goodness it's a bad day to be BI QA