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u/SosseV 13d ago

Can someone explain me the casting controversy around this film? I've only heard a trans actor was cast as Achilles, which is, if you actually know the Illiad, a choice that absolutely makes sense.

Don't know what the other controversy is about though.

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u/sarma55 13d ago

genuine question: why does casting a trans actor make sense?

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u/SosseV 13d ago

Achilles is described as a very beautiful, feminine man. His mother didn't want him to go to war, because of a prophecy that said he wouldn't return, so hid him in a temple among women and Odysseus, who was charged with recruiting him, needed a ruse to find him, because he was not able to recognise him amongst them.

Also, he only decided to go back to war when his lover Patroclos was killed by Hector, after refusing to fight anymore because of a conflict with king Agamemnon.

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u/Mad_Kronos 13d ago

Who the fuck is upvoting this nonsense?

Feminine man?

There's no way you have read the Iliad. Achilles was hidden as a teen in the temple,not as a grown man.

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u/hpwriterkyle 13d ago

This is Reddit, where media literacy is nonexistent.

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u/gatorsfan5192 13d ago

Reddit and common sense, not so common here.

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u/thisguy_right_here 13d ago

The average redditor is left, the more time spent on reddit the more likely to be radicalised to the far left. They do it for the upvotes and awards.

That's how they get their dopamine.

The right however, go to 4chan and other forums, where racist and offensive memes are in abundance and can be posted and people can argue.

Reddit is an echo chamber for the left and far left.

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u/gatorsfan5192 13d ago

I've been here since /u/spez moderated /r/jailbait

This isn't news to me.

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u/SosseV 13d ago

While agreeing that 'feminine man' isn't the best wording, I don't think it disapproves the point that I was trying to make and stems from this not being my first language more than lack of knowledge about the Illiad (although I don't claim to be an expert).

I jus tried to point out Achilles, while he is a fierce warrior, is not described as as one dimensional in his masculinity as the manosphere crowd likes their men.

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u/Skylord_Hekaton 13d ago

Sure.

I don't like the manosphere either, but while a trans actor could make sense, Page is freaking 5 ft 2 and 105 pounds.

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u/Hamster-Food 13d ago

An actor's height isn't really an issue for film.

Ian McKellen is about 5' 10" and Elijah Wood is 5' 5", but clever camerawork magnifies the difference in LotR to make Frodo appear two and a half feet shorter than Gandalf.

Tom Cruise is 5' 7½" (officially) but never looks up at anyone on camera.

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u/BoringPoolPlaying 13d ago

The important thing is, Page being cast as Achilles was a false rumour started by manosphere grifters to drum up anti-trans views.

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u/thisguy_right_here 13d ago

Should have got the trans person playing women's rugby and absolutely dominating the other women half their size.

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u/Mad_Kronos 13d ago

You will not find me disagreeing with the claim that the manosphere misinterprets almost every element of ancient mythology/art.

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u/deaglebro 13d ago

Yes he is. Achilles is famously one dimensional, he is arrogant, sensitive, and volatile. That's literally his character flaw.

Instead of inventing things to conform to your nonsensical worldview, you should read and educate yourself that other things exist outside of your narrow ideology.