r/Angryupvote • u/Interesting_Tale • 13d ago

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u/SosseV 13d ago

Can someone explain me the casting controversy around this film? I've only heard a trans actor was cast as Achilles, which is, if you actually know the Illiad, a choice that absolutely makes sense.

Don't know what the other controversy is about though.

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u/sarma55 13d ago

genuine question: why does casting a trans actor make sense?

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u/SosseV 13d ago

Achilles is described as a very beautiful, feminine man. His mother didn't want him to go to war, because of a prophecy that said he wouldn't return, so hid him in a temple among women and Odysseus, who was charged with recruiting him, needed a ruse to find him, because he was not able to recognise him amongst them.

Also, he only decided to go back to war when his lover Patroclos was killed by Hector, after refusing to fight anymore because of a conflict with king Agamemnon.

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u/Definitelynotabot777 13d ago

Tbf casting is going up against fucking Peak Brad Pitt as Achilles here, THE Bi-Menace 2004 Brad Pitt, they are not going to win on that front

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u/Adelaidey 13d ago

casting is going up against fucking Peak Brad Pitt as Achilles

Is it?? Why do so many of you keep talking like they're remaking Troy? Why would we even want a gorgeous, muscular thirtysomething actor playing a miserable, half-decayed ghost who just shows up to impart a grim warning to Odysseus? Because that's all Achilles does in The Odyssey.

For that matter, why would we want a twentysomething catwalk model playing Helen, who appears in Odyssey as a jaded and cryptic queen presiding over her 29-year-old daughter's wedding?

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u/Positive_Total_8651 13d ago

The answer is very very simple but people are going to bend over backwards to not admit to themselves or others that the only reason they are mad is its a black woman and a trans man. Even in this thread man, people are trying to create any narrative they can to denigrate Page and Nyong'o's casting in the film but we know it just boils down to good ol racism and transphobia. The notion that a black woman cant be the most beautiful woman is just inherently racist. And a trans actor existing is enough to piss some people off.