r/zen Mar 14 '18

Huang Po: Motionless Mind

Not til your thoughts cease their branching here and there, not till you abandon all thoughts of seeking for something, not till your mind is motionless as wood or stone, will you be on the right road to the Gate.

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u/Healthspin independent Mar 14 '18

It sounds like at first you didn't have a solid ground to stand on with respect to Huangbo.
So your impression changed according to what other people said and shared. Now, when you share your new understanding, it is again challenged and changed.
The only common denominator I see is taking words for meaning, rather than digging for direct experience. Don't you see? Huangbo would slap you if he saw you searching for his pennies on the ground.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '18

You are totally right with all of the points you've shared here. I was brand new to Huangbo, and it was the first book that I've ever read on him so it is really tough to figure out the proper stance on the matter. It seemed like most of the book was against the attachment to zazen. It can be really hard to stand on your own with the community mostly against a point you may bring out, and I'm here to learn but it can be tough. Thanks for pointing this out.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '18 edited Dec 03 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '18

That makes sense.