AI Zen Master

[u/ewk]

Since it's so easy to drop a Zen text or even multiple Zen texts into an llm and ask questions that the llm will answer from the standpoint of the text?

* www.reddit.com/r/Zen/wiki/getstarted

Doesn't it make sense that there would be a lot less confusion and a lot more interesting conversations??

Plus, if you have an llm answer questions about the texts then who better to explain why Zazen Shinto-Buddhism and Alan Epstein Watts are not part of the tradition?

Serious question.

Where are all my AI Zen Masters at?

[u/dota2nub]

I am having AI do edition work. I'm trying to work through chronologically as much as possible starting from Faith in Mind. I use every previous edition I made to inform the next edition and help write commentary and find quotes from previous editions I've done.

I don't have enough results yet but my experience in working with AI leaves me in no doubt that this approach works.

I have a degree in German languages and literatures. People are of the mistaken belief that textual analysis is a magical genius process that requires some divine spark of understanding. It is not. It is grit and drudgery. Meticulous work forcing the interpreter to find every morsel and slowly ever so slowly produce text and interpretation based on evidence.

There is nothing there that AI can't do.

There are going to be mistakes, but mistakes can be corrected.

I think people just don't yet understand the tool they have. Give it ten years.

[u/origin_unknown → u/dota2nub]

Analysis is a human thing. It typically requires the one doing analysis to understand, ie comprehend, what it is they are analyzing.

Llm does not comprehend. It is a predictive language model.

If your degree is relevant than my degree in computer science and my resume portfolio stocked with hardware and software certifications is relevant to this technology.

You keep calling it AI, but you also say it's the other people that don't understand. It's not AI. And one key thing it can't do, is comprehend the input. Proof is how easily it hallocinates on its own, as well as how often it can be made to perform things it shouldn't.

[u/dota2nub → u/origin_unknown]

You sound like a guy who discovered people using hammers. So you hit your thumb, and now you're complaining about hammers and how people should stop worshipping hammers as buddhas.

[u/origin_unknown → u/dota2nub]

Totally reasonable response, just start making stuff up to attack me instead of displaying any ability to address what I wrote.

[u/dota2nub → u/origin_unknown]

You have not made one concrete point in this entire thread, what's there to address?

Instead you make stuff up about people worshipping hammers.

[u/origin_unknown → u/dota2nub]

If you're willing to say all of that; you, as someone who supports the precepts, I don't think we have anything else to say to one another right now.

Are you ok?

[u/dota2nub → u/origin_unknown]

Guy comes in, says why don't people use hammers. You go screeching at him about hammers are the worst and he shouldn't worship them as Buddhas. I tell you that is silly behavior. You ask me if I'm okay.

That's still silly behavior. If you're all about the precepts you should apply them and search your certificates for wtf happend to make you act like this.

[u/origin_unknown → u/dota2nub]

You're telling stories to reframe the situation instead of just being reasonable.

[u/dota2nub → u/origin_unknown]

You haven't been reasonable. Telling you you're doing silly stuff is what's reasonable.

[u/origin_unknown → u/dota2nub]

That's mischaracterization. You're doing silly stuff.