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As someone in the Tampa Bay Area, so is seeing the Tampa Bay Lightning lol
I would never have thought their logo would be confused for Nazi paraphernalia. The reason they’re the lightning is because there are a lot of thunderstorms here.
Yeah it makes sense I guess, a lot of those fuckers tend to use lightning in their imagery, it sucks that that’s another thing they’ve somewhat ruined via association.
Occasionally their reaction to "woke" media is to support the villains (the best example being Homelander in The Boys). But I don't think this applies to the First Order.
The sequels also bred (off the backs of the prequels) a unique brand of antiwoke Star Wars fan forged out of hate for the sequels that I could see including some Nazis
I’m not a Nazi, but I do hate the sequels. But it’s less of a political thing and more a writing problem. Many good honest writers have said countless times that Rey was a bad character not due to her gender but that she had every skill the plot needed her to have. That’s bad writing.
It's also the first thing you see if you search google or Amazon for "klingon flag." For better or worse, the non-canon flag is what 90% of the fandom thinks of
The canon flag is slightly less overt, but only slightly
There's not one flag. There's been many versions.
This version (parent comment) shows up in Lower Decks, and is close to the version from Star Trek VI, just missing the gold outline.
It was meant to invoke it too. Matt Jefferies (the lead set designer for TOS) designed it in 1966 but it wasn't used until 1991 in ST:VI- The Undiscovered Country (a hanging banner version in different colors was seen in TNG.) Jefferies was a SSgt in the USAAF and flew bomber missions over Germany as a flight engineer.
Gene Roddenberry didn't use the flag on screen because of exactly how ham fisted the pseudo-Nazi iconography was.
Panthers fans, location, and players are way, way more MAGA than the Bolts. Fuck both teams, and the whole state of Florida, but Cats flags are basically Trump 2028 flags.
Amigo, eu estive em Vitória neste verão. Um estado e muito bonito. Eu gosto Brasil muito. Nos também fomos para Santa Theresa. Estávamos lá quando eles vencerem o Santos 6-0. Todos os vascaínos saíram do esconderijo kkkkkk. Desculpe, meu Português e ruim.
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Since we’re all here for fascism, football, and flags, do Brazilian clubs have a problem with right wing ultras? Are certain clubs known for it more than others?
From my understanding from what family and my wife have told me is that the canary yellow Brazil national team jersey has been co-opted by the far right and was worn by Bolsonaristas when they stormed the capital on January 8th.
not a lot in the realm of ultras (torcida organizada), more in the realm of club politics or just regular supporters (usually fringe groups of middle class ones who dont even watch the game in the same section of the stadiums as the ultras and who dont usually behave like ultras).
I believe this stems from the fact that most if not all organizadas are very much working class. Not that they are left-aligned, very few are, but a racist and classist right-wing movement just isnt as appealing amongst poor and black kids who want to join the organizada. (Many might vote for Bolsonaro, but almost none would align with a neonazi movement)
Hence throwing an eagle on the flag, but using an Aztec styled eagle as a first nations symbol lol, notoriety but with pretty genuinely good excuses for why it's not actually racist
It was the Falange you're referring to, not the Nazi flag. For Nazi flag, it was the imperial colours, while the red symbolising a 'social' undertone was an addition that came a bit latter on.
Had a group of Germans put Eintracht Frankfurt stickers all over the walls if the pub I work at. Was definitely a bit of a shock before I searched it up
Ha! I live in Frankfurt so am used to seeing that flag and wasn’t expecting it in this post. But I guess the combination of the colours and the emblem may look suspicious if you’re not familiar with Eintracht. But Eintracht supporters actually have more of a reputation for being left-leaning.
On social media it always a guessing game when someone uses the the red, white and black circle emojis followed by an eagle. Eintracht fan or fascist?
I believe its quite the experience, if you know nothing about football and Eintracht fans invade your city for an away game.
Not quite suspicious for the templars. As far as I know - none of them are technically legitimate because the papal bull that saw the order dissolve in the 1300s, clearly states that another order shall never be created from the ruins and recognized as official by the Catholic Church. There was something recently where a modern Templars sect was at the Vatican, but even that, isn’t an official order of the Templars, so far as I could tell.
The Templar's banner was white and black like that, it was called the Beaucéant. However from what I recall it didnt always had the red cross on it.
Templars did however wear such red crosses over their heart (on their surcoat) & on their mantle.
I mean, yeah, kind of. What else would it be? Regular Christians don't put up flags saying "I like the order that massacred civilians during the Crusades."
I'm pretty sure only the Hospitaliers survived, in the form of the Sovereign Order of the Knights of Malta. The Red Cross has nothing to do with Crusade-era chivalric orders.
Fun fact but my mom worked with a place that was taking care of (I believe) disabled people. They were affiliated with the knights of St John Hospitalier, like a super well organized charity running your standard medical institution. These guys are still around, I would've never imagined. It was also ran by people affiliated with the Catholic Church, but 0 religion in the pensioner's experience.
Well no actually, a couple of them are still around. The Teutonic order, (Hospitallers ofc), the Order of the Holy Sepulchre, Order of Saint John, Order of Santiago.
Oh sorry, I searched it up, I was referring to the protestant branch of the Hospitallers, there's the Catholic branch and the protestant branch, I don't know why they were labeled differently.
My buddy once described my apartment as being below the people with the confederate flag in their window. I live in a majorly left-wing city, but grew up in rural Idaho, so the confederate flag is just a distant, yucky, memory to me, and I was shocked my neighbor was flying it. When I got home I ran to the front to see it…turns out they were just Norwegian, and Minnesotans just don’t know what the confederate flag looks like.
Literally fasces! (Pay no attention to the myriad of uses prior to the 1930s, such as what honest Abe is resting his hands on in the Lincoln Memorial).
Ahh yes, fasces, something that is totally not present still in the french coat of arms, the US house of representatives, various military police emblems, etc around the world
They're flags used by the exiled British Empire in Canada and French Republic in Algieria, from the alternate history universe Kaiserreich: Legacy of the Weltkrieg
Because if we try to use some of these symbols in the harmless way they were intended, people lose their minds and think you're a terrible person. By freaking out over morons appropriating historic symbols, or unrelated imagery, they give it power. I'm constantly reminded with the "OK" symbol being a "white power" symbol. Originally a joke on the news doing literally that, only for racist morons to appropriate it, and for the media to increase its power by going "SEE! It is racist!".
That's what i don't understand. If you are antifascist, why would you let to fascists what they claim? The very point of being antifascist is to not let them having anything and fighting against them on everything they try to steal/appropriate.
Imho, the day we would take back the swasitka will be a huge win against fascism. We should have never let it to them in the first place, like they did in asia. I know we are very far from it today, but i really believe we should reclaim the swastika. It was a popular symbol for longer than human history and we abandonned it to fascists in only two decades. It's also a symbol/patern you can't avoid. It's litteraly everywhere, everytime you build symetrical stuff or rotating stuff you end up with a swastika patern.
It used to be a patern meaning rotation/cycle/life/death/building/destroying and so many other things. Now westerners (the people who invented nazism) have accepted the fact that it only means nazism. That's fucked up.
It's vital that True British Patriots™ continue to spread the idea that their only choice is between their current flag, and something absolutely diabolical.
Could be true, though it's worth bearing in mind that this flag is typically associated most with mainline (progressive) protestant churches, and was even used as an anti-nazi symbol during WWII.
Sure, but it is included since people unfamiliar with the iconography primarily see a captian-america looking flag with a black circle with sharp white arrows in the middle, I can certainly see why some might first assume that to be some ultrapatriotic/nationalistic or even fascist thing.
Yeah, I had to google that myself. It traces its origins to 1932 in Germany and was the flag of the SPD at the time as well as the Iron Front. It has since been adopted by various anti-authoritarian groups.
Edit: The three arrows are supposed to symbolize resistance against monarchism, fascism, and communism. Which were all equal possibilities during their elections at the time.
Those are also sold as a "subdued" flag that holds no further meaning than being a flag of the United States of America without being brightly colored. The original intention was for military uses where positive identification may be necessary, but being discreet was equally important. While I'm sure there are people out there in the world who represent it in poor taste, most people who would wear a subdued flag, typically as a patch on a hat, shoulder of a uniform, or on body armor, are wearing it for pure aesthetics or for its actual original purpose. You'll see them in black, black/grey, black/white, green/black, tan/black, and various camouflage patterns.
I think that it is worth noting that someone flying it as a flag is using it very differently from someone wearing on their kit or as a sticker on their car. on kit serves a tactical purpose, on a vehicle it's aesthetic. but as an actual flag to be flown, it is almost definitely "no quarter" since the actual US flag looks better in every way unless you are going for a patriotic goth look to your house.
The guy who used to fly the Confederate flag on base started flying that Christianity flag after the Confederate flag was banned... So I dunno about it.
For the Christian flag, it’s important to note that it’s more associated with the Protestant traditions. The Romanists have the Vatican flag, and Orthodoxy doesn’t use it either.
Huh, I've never seen that United Farm Workers flag. At first it super reminded me of the Arstozka-Flag from Papers Please, and I thought - is that actually the inspiration? But I guess the weird jagged look of the UFW-Eagle just resembles the aliasing of the faux-retro Papers Please look.
Actually, that's maybe a flag/symbol that should be on the list. I have a Papers Please hoody, I love it, but sometimes I wonder if people think I have a fascist eagle on my hoodie.
It's from the band Type O Negative. Never heard of it being problematic tho. The front man Peter Steele was notorious for pushing buttons and being edgy, maybe some people take that seriously?
Vinland was what Leif Erikson called the continent he discovered beyond Greenland, which likely equates to modern-day Newfoundland, where pre-Columbus Viking settlements have been found.
The “Vikings got to America first” narrative was popular among metalheads and other Pagan-curious types, which is likely why Type O included references to it in their liner notes. The flag is the Norwegian flag done up in Type O’s signature green and black.
Sadly, neo-paganism (particularly Norse-flavored) is popular among white supremacists, which is likely how this all got started- some Nazi fuckwit likely googled “Vinland flag” and found the Type O flag in google image results.
There’s no indication that anybody in Type O Negative has/had any racist leanings, beyond what you’d expect from working-class Brooklyn guys who grew up in the 70’s/80’s. They have some edgy tracks (like “Kill All The White People”) but these are generally interpreted to be muddled attempts at satire.
Also considered in toss up should be Kaiserliche marine flag and the flag of the German Empire. Plenty of history buffs with them, but also a noteworthy number who aren't.
The Celtic Cross is a common symbol found in Episcopal Churches in the US, one of the most “left leaning” denominations. Context is everything. Same goes for the Jerusalem Cross.
If a church is flying the Christian flag, that's probably OK, but if I'm going to that church for the first time, I'm checking out if the congregation is or isn't crazy Trumpers.
If a home is flying the Christian flag, I'm pretty sure they are extremist weirdos who are irrationally worried about "Christianity being under attack" because gay people exist.
What’s funny about the Iron Front is that you rarely see it used as opposed to Antifa’s more common flag. The three arrows represented the three things they originally opposed; nazis, imperialists, and communists.
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