r/technicallythetruth undefined boundaries. 15d ago

We aren't so different after all.

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u/PwanaZana 15d ago

hey! diamonds have plenty of industrial uses! :P

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u/DoobKiller 15d ago

Yeah but you can use lab grown ones for those purposes

Humans need(not really) to have their rocks come from an industry fuelled by violence and child exploitation or they're no good

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u/TheKingsdread 15d ago

De Beers really managed to bamboozle millions of people into buying their stupid rocks at insane prices.

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u/DoobKiller 15d ago edited 15d ago

I can sort of give the people living in 30's a pass, they didn't have free access to the information on all the cruelty involved in the diamond trade, and didn't employ enough critical thinking to know that 'more expensive = better' isn't true

But now we do, as well as the ability to lab-grow them with less flaws for a fraction of the cost, then people are just choosing to enrich the De Beers cartel because they enjoy having cruelty attached to their diamonds

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u/FlimsyBlood330 undefined boundaries. 15d ago

Yeah but then lab grown makes no point. So better don't buy diamonds at all. Since diamond are a case of illusion of antiquity or feel of royality/rarity. And you buy rarity you don't make one of your own.if so, then the ''rare" term would be pointless. The LGD (lab-grown-diamonds) supporters might not be wrong but then there's no point of buying LGD too, The moment you can mass-produce an identical one in a lab, the concept of "rarity" is dead or better carry a beautiful roadside pebble, polish it and make a ring out of it.

Gold is gold because stars died making it and still it can't be replicated, Diamonds, on the other hand, can be easily engineered because they're just carbon. Lab diamonds are chemically identical, sure, but in the luxury market, they function like a "first copy" that completely kills the prestige of the original and intrinsic value.

I'm Not in any support of the cruel history attached to the diamonds. Diamonds aren't de beers personal discovery but buying is based entirely upon his idea of ingenuity.

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u/DoobKiller 15d ago edited 15d ago

Gems are aesthetically pleasing to a lot of people, the price shouldn't mater, and the colour of wedding rings(another social construct if you want to go down that route) and what if any stones are on them should be up to the wearers

Yes rarity gives value, but your statement that:

The moment you can mass-produce an identical one in a lab

isn't true, say a molecularly identical Mona Lisa were made in a lab, the original would still be more rarer and thus valuable because it is still 'the Mona Lisa', the chemical make up isn't the only thing that can make an object rare, its history for example

Gold actual can be manufactured https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthesis_of_precious_metals#Gold its just more economically viable at the moment to mine it

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u/FlimsyBlood330 undefined boundaries. 15d ago

Yeah fair point it's upto the wearers , it's just a take i find stupid to look at that "we indeed bought diamonds but just the lab grown ones".

(Thanks for the gold wiki, that trillion times price doesn't sound viable at all)

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u/FlimsyBlood330 undefined boundaries. 15d ago

There aren't 1000s of mona lisa in the world, when someone buys one it's obviously a fake one and that's a different thing, but diamonds? You are juggling whether you want da Vinci's or dr vinci's? That was my whole point, it's the thin beam we walk upon.

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u/DoobKiller 15d ago

When someone paints a fake mona lisa no matter how accurate they it wouldn't be identical down to the atom, the one in our hypothetical would be

But sure, rarity is ineffable, and while often influencing it isn't the same as value