r/southafrica • u/ctnguy Cape Town • Feb 01 '26
News Afrikaner group declares independence from South Africa
https://newsday.co.za/south-africa/16422/afrikaner-group-declares-independence-from-south-africa/272
u/ctnguy Cape Town Feb 01 '26
Their "declaration" is about as effective...
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u/Consistent-Annual268 Emigrant Feb 01 '26
I knew this would be in the comments before even scrolling.
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u/-hara-kiri- Gauteng Feb 01 '26
Ag my goeie fok Jannie, kan jy asseblief jou kop uit jou poephol haal
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u/Only_One_Kenobi https://georgedrakestories.wordpress.com/ Feb 01 '26
Die kakste ding is as ek in ander lande vir mense sê ek's Afrikaans dan assosieer hulle my met tsekkers, Die Antwoord, en hierdie klomp
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u/memevdw Feb 01 '26
Dus noem ek myself “a non-practicing” Afrikaner.
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u/Only_One_Kenobi https://georgedrakestories.wordpress.com/ Feb 01 '26
Ek voel dit speel in die idee in dat Afrikaners almal moers rassiste is.
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u/jungle_fiya Feb 01 '26
A thus-far unknown yet brilliant play on a trekker for those who tsekked out of SA
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u/ctnguy Cape Town Feb 01 '26
People who voetseked off to America as “refugees” under Trump’s programme.
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u/Koppetamp Survived the Great Rapture Drill Feb 01 '26
I'm glad the people at work say, you sure you ain't black? I don't behave like these people.
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u/SielVlokkies Trotse Kaapenaar Feb 01 '26
Ek dink jy hang uit met die verkeerde mense as jy veroordeel net omdat jy 'n Afrikaner is.
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u/redcomet29 Feb 01 '26
"Minority in the Afrikaans population"
So a minority in a minority decided a state (obviously its that state, no prizes for guessing), has ceded from SA and they claim another state too. As well as 200 tons of gold.
As funny as that is, these people really should be just ignored. Every news article encourages them.
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u/declarator Feb 01 '26
Really? All of KZN? They want to go to war with the Zulus?
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u/BoerInDieWoestyn Left because I can't afford food on a teacher's salary Feb 01 '26
This is what I was thinking. Like if they really want to do this I'm not going to stop them because I know they're going to be trampled by the zulus. It's not Bloedrivier anymore, the zulus have guns now too.
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u/SoutieNaaier Feb 01 '26 edited Feb 01 '26
KZN was also never really an Afrikaner stronghold lol
Iirc, the largest White population there is English but I could be wrong.
Orania "works" because they were at least smart enough to do it on somewhat useless land in the middle of nowhere, but this is just stupid
Edit: They're using the Richtersveld case to claim Afrikaners in former Natalia are privy to the same remedy the Nama received due to both being victims of British annexation
Key hang up is Afrikaners didn't have generational customary occupation, but the claim is they inherited a similar status due to "willing buyer, willing seller" policies
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u/FayePixie Feb 01 '26 edited Feb 01 '26
I see they want Lake St Lucia and other parts of KZN. What a bunch of dumb white supremacists.
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u/chrishanisghost Feb 01 '26
As someone from KZN low-key wanna see them try something just to see what would happen😂
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u/Regitnui Ascension Cancelled: Loadshedding Stage 8 Feb 01 '26
Yeah, they want the pretty water and tourism. :þ
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u/Jugh3ad woza Feb 01 '26
I just got the new license plate man, come on.
Do I have to leave this sub now?
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u/HeySlothKid Western Cape Feb 01 '26
Iiiiiiinterested to see how they plan to defend their sovereignty against (let's see) the entirety of the south African government. (Checks kitchen for popcorn)
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u/genealogycurator Feb 01 '26
As ridiculous and scary as this sounds, maybe they want recognition from DT and everything that will follow from that
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u/brettdelport KwaZulu-Natal Feb 01 '26
I live in KZN - do I need to get their banking details for my rates payment now? Also - did they leave an email address where I could log electrical faults?
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u/RupertHermano Feb 01 '26
Just ban “exporting” anything to them. Close the “borders”. Demand passports and visas, car ownership papers et al. for travel in South Africa.
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u/SielVlokkies Trotse Kaapenaar Feb 01 '26
I don't see why the government would do this, legitimizing them is against their interests.
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u/RupertHermano Feb 01 '26
Yes, it’s not a serious suggestion; but more to point out the absurdity of idea.
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u/SoftBeing9268 Feb 01 '26
It's sounds abit Israeli to me "This land was promised to us 300 years ago" mxm
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u/StepAlarmed20 Eastern Cape Feb 01 '26
Don't afrikaners essentially view themselves as god's chosen people too?
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u/SuperNerd6527 Western Cape Feb 01 '26
In the real world it’s more varied obviously but that’s the foundational idea of Afrikaner Nationalism yeah. Look up the blood river covenant
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u/sgtsturtle Rapture Resilience: SA Edition Feb 01 '26
I've seen a pastor say that. I was like "I'm pretty sure God said that about the Jews" and he wasn't amused. Could obviously not give a good rebuttal and just walked away pissed
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u/StepAlarmed20 Eastern Cape Feb 01 '26
I remember Buchanan had to apologize for saying that a few years back.
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u/sgtsturtle Rapture Resilience: SA Edition Feb 01 '26
Ai, Angus. I don't know where people get this stuff.
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u/ApocalyptoSoldier Ascension Delayed by Eskom Feb 01 '26
My mom told me how insecure that made her feel.
If she was one of god's chosen people then why was she still just average.
Just another reason whhy it's not a very well thought out ideology3
u/SoftBeing9268 Feb 01 '26
Depends who you ask ofc, I'm a white Afrikaner and i don't believe that im superior to anyone but almost all of my family don't like africans and feel superior.
I honestly believe that most Afrikaaners are racists based on my experiences but there's still a lot of us who aren't I'd say the ratio is for every 5 white south africans 1 isn't racist.
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u/teddyslayerza Aristocracy Feb 01 '26
I think they missed the memo that South Africa is not the British Empire.
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u/WeaponizedWaspSwarm Feb 01 '26
They probably still hate English speakers because of the boer war
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u/FormalFuneralFun Gauteng Feb 01 '26
As a white English south african, I have been called “fokken pommie” by at least 3 different Afrikaans people.
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u/WeaponizedWaspSwarm Feb 01 '26 edited Feb 01 '26
I was born and raised in Johannesburg I had friends from all backgrounds growing up, a few years ago I left Johannesburg and moved to an town that was mainly Afrikaans where I was told by a guy and his group of friends who approached me and said that I was filthy and had to speak a "clean language" like Afrikaans and that I wasn't welcome.
I basically said noted and ignored him which he hated and he kept trying to get a rise out of me. An old woman I spoke to a few months later- also an English speaker said she had that issue a few times in the 20 years she'd been there. Naturally this made her refuse to learn Afrikaans.
That guy and his little group is the type of Afrikaner my Afrikaans friends would mock and my father warned me about- I thought it was all exaggeration but nope. Prior to this my friends grandfather refused to interact with me simply because I wasn't Afrikaans, when I asked her about him she told me he was fluent in English, he just hated me because I was English and that I should ignore him lol.
Edit: I dont hate Afrikaners just in case people start making assumptions.
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u/ironicallygeneral Aristocracy Feb 01 '26
I was working in a hotel and had someone (in Afrikaans) go on a whole tirade about "this is [area], I don't have to speak in English here, greet me in Afrikaans". All I'd done was say good afternoon. I smiled and said "I'm so sorry, I don't speak Afrikaans, I'm not from here" and forced him to go through the checking in process in English.
I am perfectly fluent, I wasn't born in South Africa but I moved here in my teens and lived in an Afrikaans town. He just pissed me off. If he'd just returned my greeting in Afrikaans I'd have switched over for him, no problem.
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u/WeaponizedWaspSwarm Feb 01 '26
My time there made me not even bother at all with Afrikaans. And those types are the first to cry racism
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u/FormalFuneralFun Gauteng Feb 01 '26
My Afrikaans grandfather’s parents disinherited my grandfather for marrying a second-gen English/Irish woman (my grandmother). My father never met that side of the family because they refused to interact with anyone of English descent.
In a way, I get it. The Anglo-Boer war was a shitshow, the English treated the Afrikaaners like animals… but this is South Africa. The people around now had no involvement in that atrocity, we just want to get along with our lives. We live in a melting-pot and there is so much hate in the world. It would be so cool if we all just got along.
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u/OhGee1228 Feb 01 '26
Now just imagine any indigenous person refuse to speak anything thing but Zulu or Xhosa to them. They would surely kak their pants. One would've thought that people that remember how it felt to called less than human would not want to visit that upon another race... yet apartheid happened. And now some fuckers wanna go back to that system.
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u/OhGee1228 Feb 01 '26
Yeah I am coloured and when I am around my mostly black friends they switch to English to accommodate me, with no issues. I do the same if it's them amongst my coloured friends. Its easier to communicate and just realise we arent that different after all.
Re your comment on not wanting freedom but just their turn to oppress, yeah dude that's the age old story with humans. Often the oppressed becomes worse oppressors once they get freedom.
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u/theproudprodigy Feb 01 '26
I promise you a lot of black people do judge if you look visibly black and cannot speak the local language of the area fluently, even if it isn't your home language. Some even start to assume you are a foreigner and treat you accordingly. You probably dont look visibly black so they dont apply that reasoning to you.
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u/WeaponizedWaspSwarm Feb 01 '26
I had a friend a few years ago who complained that black people treated her differently because she couldn't speak anything other than English. My lecturer also said the same thing, he said it's also why a lot of black people are multilingual, he said when you move to a new area you will sometimes be ignored completely until you speak the language in the area.
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u/WeaponizedWaspSwarm Feb 01 '26
The Irish hated the British and had terrible time too.... I dont tolerate it at all, nor do I think it is beneficial to harp on and cry and raise your children in hatred, instead actually be proud that your people overcame.
Not that I am trying to dismiss or be insensitive, it was an atrocity but I did not put any of their great grandparents who hate me in a camp. Furthermore its a tad hypocritical that they carried out apartheid and get annoyed when black people talk about the generational scars of apartheid. Literally heard a lot of the k word in that town too and "ag man, they must get over it" "its just a word" "I dont let words hurt me, neither should they". Thankfully these are a minority of Afrikaners.
These extremists also like to make a lot of things about race especially when you mention you are from Joburg. They seem to think the government= every black person ever.
Hatred is a choice. I understand hating someone who actually did something to you. I can also hate the English by saying for centuries my ancestors fought them but it serves no one.
In my experience, aside from a few isolated incidents, most South Africans can get along and are pretty chill, rarely have ever had an issue, we are all human and have a lot more in common than we'd like to admit. I love this country. Thankfully these extremists are the loud and annoying minority.
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u/Gingerbreadman_13 Aristocracy Feb 01 '26
I’ve had several similar experiences when I was growing up just because I primarily speak English. The funny thing is, I’m not English. Yes, I speak the language as my first language but I have no British ancestry. I’m Portuguese. My ancestors didn’t go to battle with their ancestors. I can speak Afrikaans but it’s not great. I could speak to Afrikaaners in Portuguese but I think that would make things harder, not easier. I can also try Spanish or Italian, but I figure of all the languages I know, English is the one we could converse in the easiest, but just because of my language, I’m immediately discriminated against. I grew pretty tired of it quite quickly and now have no patience for racist Afrikaaners. I just walk away from them now that I’m older and stand up for myself better.
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u/Klandesztine Feb 01 '26
Minority within a minority? Probably like 10 guys and a youtube account. Sounds to me like a South African offshoot of sovereign citizens.
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u/chris-za Western Cape Feb 01 '26
Sort of like the Republic of Hout Bay? I still have one of their passports that says it’s valid in “all countries with a sense of humour”
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u/Smooth_Cost1274 Feb 01 '26
I hereby declare that I'm a billionaire with a mega-yacht and 11/10 girlfriend. 🫡
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u/Mandjie Northern Cape Feb 01 '26
Literally what do these folks even understand independence to be?
Like will this group (srry didn't read the article) be able to create and sustain it's own infrastructure? Will it somehow produce most/all it's own goods and services? Will it be able to defend itself against foreign invasions (fuck, even the USA by today's trends)?
Or will it invariably be dependant on "importing" the above-mentioned from RSA?
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u/Szzzzl Feb 01 '26
They probably still want all the infrastructure and benefits of being part of South Africa but not pay taxes.
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u/TrickshotCandy Feb 01 '26
Not their first rodeo, according to the article, so they know how to pick themselves up off the floor.
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u/benevolent-badger !ke e: /xarra //ke Feb 01 '26
How many generations do you have to be inbred for this to make sense?
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u/Likma_sack Redditor for 24 days Feb 01 '26
These types of things generally turn out to be scams. Taking the money of those interested but never delivering on the promises. The cult leader usually also have some sort of financial or fraud criminal background.
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u/Nest_o Western Cape Feb 01 '26
Here is the translated text copied straight from the Gazette:
Please take note that the Oranjevrijstaat Boervolk, being an International recognized “Volk”(nation),with its with its own international recognized territorial land as determined by the Bloemfontein Convention of 1854,hereby restore her status as on 30 May 1902 and that, from now on the Boervolk of the Orange Freestate will manage her own aQairs as a souvereign folk(nation)and without interference from inside or outside the Boerfolk and or its territorial land and that the Orange Freestate Boervolk hereby takes back into her possession the oQice of the “ Volksraad “of the Republic of the Orange Freestate and hereby takes back the oQice of the State President and acting State President of the Republic of the Orange Freestate as well as the acting Volksraad and Executive Committee as determined by the Constitution of the Republic of the Orange Freestate with the exclusive purpose to restore the Orange Freestate Boervolk’s own determination within their international recognized territorial land as described in the Bloemfontein Convention of 1854 and in accordance with resolution 1514 of the United Nations of 1960 and 1992 on a peaceful manner with acknowledgement to other nations and their sovereign rights. Take further notice that the the Orange Freestate Boervolk herewith choose as domicilium citandi et executandi for serving of notices, process documents, pleadings and general notices, the Farm Rio, portion 1 of the farm Sterkfontein 213,R702 Bloemfontein, coordinates Enquiries can also be sent to navrae@oranjevrijstaat.com Thus done and signed at Bloemfontein on 15 October 2025 WA Rossouw Volk representative
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u/reputedbee2 Feb 01 '26
Lol they're trying to claim KZN.
They're lucky that they're currently being ignored.
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u/SoutieNaaier Feb 01 '26
They're using the Richtersveld case to claim Afrikaners in former Natalia are privy to the same remedy the Nama received due to both being victims of British annexation
Key hang up is Afrikaners didn't have generational customary occupation, but the claim is they inherited a similar status due to "willing buyer, willing seller" policies
It's a somewhat interesting claim, even if it is asinine
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u/ctnguy Cape Town Feb 01 '26
Besides all the other things wrong with their claims, they miss that the Richtersveld case didn’t entitle the Nama to declare independence from South Africa. Title to the land is one thing, sovereignty is quite another.
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u/VolantTardigrade Redditor for 24 days Feb 01 '26 edited Feb 01 '26
Lmao "2000 of your finest 999 purity gold or I'll be big maaad!"
Like children playing Age of Empires
Edit: lol I see the Afrikaaner stamping their foot for gold and land is protesting in this comment section.
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u/ruggeryoda Seasoned Veteran Feb 01 '26
The amount of stupid you have to be to believe this fiction piece boggles my mind.
We're so screwed in this country.
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u/largepopcornandcoke Redditor for 16 days Feb 01 '26
well-adjusted afrikaner folk need to lock in and loudly reject being lumped in with this brand of weirdo.
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u/404pbnotfound Feb 01 '26
The way South Africa deals with these people is my favourite. Just roundly ignored. And if there was any conflict they’d just be steamrolled.
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u/Scorpiokiddo411 Feb 01 '26
It’d be more sweeter if you had applied for the refugee program to America then we’d believe that independency you claim….
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u/SielVlokkies Trotse Kaapenaar Feb 01 '26
Personally I am usually supportive of local governance movements like Orania, but claiming the entire Vrystaat and Natal is delusional LARP.
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u/UbuntuElphie Chosen to Stay Behind (Lucky Packet Edition) Feb 01 '26
Good luck in the new Zulu-Boer War. You're going to need all the luck you can muster. I'll bring the popcorn.
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u/ThickHotBoerie Thiccccccccccc Feb 01 '26
We should probably give them some documents or something to show for when they have to go into town to buy like food and fuel and shit.
You know, so if they are out wondering about like if its after dark or if they work in another town, we can confirm they have permission.
A passport won't work becuase they are too small and probably don't possess the means to print such a document... maybe a little slip of paper with their photo and their names and their employers name and who needs them to be out and about.
I just cannot think of a name for such a pass....
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u/discombobule_ Feb 01 '26
If they are prepared to pick up a rifle to protect that independence, then let's have it. An economic rebalancing is long overdue, anyway.
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u/BalanceFit8415 Waiting List for Heaven Full Feb 01 '26
Do you have any idea how many times this have happened?
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u/GJRichter Feb 01 '26
Ag, goeie Donderdag.
So I feel that each must krap their own nessie and have the signs hinge on every tree and road sign in New South-Kwazulustaat; the consequence will speak for itself, whatever this invites.
I may seem a bit loopy, but I have a very deep and eager belief that South Africa will be the country to watch. We have our dumb shit happening here, and cruel crap, yeah, and infrastructures torn to shreds because of leaders with sympathetic emotional trauma and angry, confused SA's who notices that there is not a dry eye in this house but has to ration their toiletpapier lest the next killer virus hits our streets, guns blazing.
That is only a face to the everyday local citizen. If routines don't change, minds won't. If mindfulness isn't practised, the country won't. But I've seen enough to convince me that I can polish my pride for our country.
I remember after COVID, how absolutely magical it was that a 2019 hit single and in collaboration with an Angolan dancing group, managed to spread Thankfulness for being alive INTO the world. For a short period, we all forgot our differences and we celebrated together.
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