r/smashbros • u/StopTheVok • Oct 10 '19

Other I invested my lifesavings into Wavedash, watched it fail and then decided to buy the whole Company to release the Icons: Legacy Edition and continue development under a new name. AMA

Hi /r/SmashBros I know that ya'll have had mixed feelings about Icons... the truth is I did too. Hoping that we can agree that there were a lot of very avoidable issues that plagued Icons, but also that there is still a potential future for it! (Assuming we can fix key issues!)

Recently announced article: https://www.dualshockers.com/icons-combat-arena-post-mortem-definitive-edition/FAQ

About the Legacy Edition: https://vortexrising.substack.com/p/thank-you-to-wavedash-and-our-fans

What's next for Wavedash: https://vortexrising.substack.com/p/update-on-wavedash-games

Yesterday's live stream which shows gameplay, new skins and more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MRcUf-nBM4&feature=youtu.be

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TLDR on Legacy Edition

  • Fulfills the promise of a 'Definitive' version. Functions as a time capsule / snapshot of the game while my team and I make progress on development.
  • INTENDED TO BE FREE for anyone who bought a Founders Pack, Pro Pack or Character in Icons. See FAQ for details
  • Includes all 8 characters, including never-before-released Ezzie, and all cosmetic content.
  • NO LOOTBOXES, or any in-game transactions of any kind
  • Input delay on local play was removed.
  • Global access with P2P netplay (better latency, too).
  • Offline mode available.
  • Some long-requested moveset changes were implemented (Raymer, particularly, has a grenade. Kidd has *Wolf* shine.)
  • As openly discussed on yesterday's stream, the game will retail for $4.99. We want to get this into as many hands as possible.

Proof: https://twitter.com/wewavedash/status/1182320167260491777

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AMA Ended (Parting notes below)

EDIT: Okay guys!! Thank you so much. I went on answering questions from 11am till 4:35pm ET! Going to need a break. While I was doing the Q&A I updated some art / branding assets for Icons. This was based on a prompt from yesterday's stream. Today we iterated and - now - here we are. Check them out here: https://twitter.com/IconsArena

Lastly - Please check out our next public stream this Friday @ 6:30pm ET. Will be going live here --> https://youtu.be/2_yqM8BXEVs

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u/StopTheVok Oct 10 '19

I was 1/5th of the decision making power, but <6% owner. Now I'm 100% of both, basically, and it feels great haha.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

How was the decision to go free to play reached? From an outside perspective, it was obvious to me and a number of my friends that this was the wrong move.

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u/StopTheVok Oct 10 '19

It was from a - frankly - universally flawed understanding of how we could make free-to-play work internally. The world has become a lot more smart about free-to-play since 2016 when that decision was made, but even now games make big mistakes (Apex with its precipitous engagement fall due to failed post-launch content updates).

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

That's fair. Good luck on developing and improving the game, I read the linked article and I think your list basically matches perfectly with the main complaints people had about the game. It looks like things will be moving in the right direction off the bat, I'm optimistic for what you can do with Vortex.