r/secondcaptains • u/Lower-Resident1164 • 4d ago

Someone at the club told me

Miguel bingo will be fun on Monday and throughout the week on his weekly Arsenal podcast tour.

Someone at the club told me that actually Arsenal are much further ahead than they're supposed to be at this stage.

For all the talk of PSG being unbeatable, Arsenal made them look 'uman.

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u/FrontSpecialist6720 3d ago

“Compromised when it comes to Arsenal” what does that mean?

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u/Loose-Resolution-820 3d ago

It’s quite obvious no ? He has deep and probably at this stage too personal links with Arsenal.

He never criticises them and gushes over Arteta at every possible occasion.

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u/FrontSpecialist6720 3d ago

Why should he be criticising them? They’ve just won the league and got to a champions league final

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u/Loose-Resolution-820 3d ago edited 3d ago

It’s not just this season I’m talking about.

6 trophyless years and this year scraped what should of been a routine title win, all the while playing the most poisonous football I’ve ever seen, coupled with incessant diving, fouling and pressuring of refs. It’s very worthy of criticism from any objective journalist.

His approach to the final yesterday should 100% be critiqued.

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u/FrontSpecialist6720 3d ago

Are you a Liverpool fan? I know it’s never easy to see rival teams win titles, but Liverpool fans appear to be taking it particularly bad

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u/Loose-Resolution-820 3d ago

I’m not but it’s quite clear you’re an Arsenal and by extension Arteta disciple.

journalists could and should critique your side and every other side, it’s their job (see Ken for example). Delaney does not do that with Arsenal because he’s the unofficial club PR guy.

This whole thread is about Delaneys borderline embarrassing glazing of Arteta, only the fan boys like yourself can’t see that.

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u/FrontSpecialist6720 3d ago

Fair enough… it sounds to me like you’re overthinking it. We’ll agree to disagree

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u/gengangere 2d ago

It’s been 5 years of mostly linear progress, Miguel isn’t a simpleton so has to give credit where it’s obviously due instead of pretending that Arteta is a second rate manager to make the more unhinged SC listeners feel good. The progress from where Arsenal were in December 2019 to where they are now is incredible and mostly down to Arteta, and if it was your team on that journey you would obviously acknowledge that, and probably even think highly of the person responsible for it. “incessant diving, fouling, pressuring refs” jesus, all this stuff has been completely generic and commonplace in football for decades, what are you talking about? “the most poisonous football I’ve ever seen” they were excellent in attack in the first two of their four title-challenging seasons, breaking their Premier League scoring record in 23/24. That’s fallen off for various reasons that I don’t think amount to Arteta instructing: “be shit at attacking”. It’s actually more fun to pay attention to football than regurgitate hackneyed talking points, which is presumably why Miguel does what he does.

That said, he’s not entirely uncritical of ~the project~, as you can hear on Libero. And suggesting he’s “too compromised” (to do what?) or an “Arsenal representative” for being… a well-sourced journalist working his beat, is internet-poisoned paranoia I’m afraid.

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u/HanSoloHeadBeg First mate aboard the Vasa 1d ago

I largely agree with what you have said here except for the last bit. You notice with Miguel that for the most part, he just repeats what his sources in the club have told him in relation to specific points about the football, or certain players, or Arteta. There's no actual critical analysis by Miguel himself, which is what I think irks some people.

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u/Loose-Resolution-820 2d ago

Not reading all that, but I’d recommend reading Ken’s article in the Irish times today. It’s what any sane objective person feels about Arsenal in their current iteration.

You are beyond repair if you enjoy the poison that Arsenal serve up.

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u/thekingoftherodeo 1d ago

Did you just categorize an opinion piece, which is inherently subjective by nature, as being objective?

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u/Loose-Resolution-820 1d ago

No , now read what I said again, maybe slower this time.

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u/FrontSpecialist6720 1d ago

No such thing as an objective football fan, I’m afraid