r/sandiego • u/covert_program • 18h ago
Most depressing grocery stores
What are the most depressing grocery stores in SD? I’m looking for the worst vibes. Bad energy, crappy layout, weirdos, etc.
Albertsons in EV was pretty bad, but I want something worse.
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u/MicrowavedGerbil2 17h ago
You want to get stabbed while you peruse through moldy cheese and fruits? Smart and Final, 15th and G st
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u/ThisKarmaLimitSucks 17h ago
It's not really a grocery store, but Mission Valley Target makes me feel like a rat in an overcrowded cage.
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u/kimcheebonez 16h ago
Despite all your rage?
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u/Jessssiiiiccccaaaa 17h ago
Yeah I only go if I'm in a rush. If not I try to go tk Clairmont target
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u/renamamiyas 6h ago
THIS! Ohhh my god i hate it there. I used to live right across from it and always opted to do drive-up orders bc i can not stand it in there
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u/Edgehead25 2h ago
When I first moved to San Diego that is the first place I went shopping and I immediately regretted moving here lol. I felt so overwhelmed just parking there. Thankfully it's just a Mission Valley thing between that and the Costco over there
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u/Old_Value_9157 18h ago
I was going to mention Albertsons in East Village, but you already did.
My God, that place is fucking awful. I absolutely refuse to go there on a Sunday evening… No matter what.
At first, I simply just didn’t like it now I’m completely disgusted by it. I may never go back.
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u/stuffthingscats 17h ago
I witnessed a man walking out that store with a package of meat, immediately opened it tossing the package aside, at that point I was in the store so I didn’t see what happened to the meat. Inside I’m greeted by the most unwelcoming security stanchions and guards like it’s a freaking fortress, then inside there’s several homeless folks with their large dogs.
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u/mmmarkm 15h ago
The dog thing is reaching a breaking point (maybe)
First presidential candidate who runs on a campaign for a national ADA & ESA license certification for service and support animals with heavy fines for counterfeits will win by +30
Maybe unpopular, but I think businesses should be able to only allow ADA service animals if they choose to. Your emotional support chihuahua does not need to go grocery shopping with you.
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u/MOONWATCHER404 15h ago edited 15h ago
I'm pretty sure there is an actual difference between an emotional support animal and a service animal. Emotional support chihuahua can stay behind, but I think someone prone to PTSD induced panic attacks who has a service animal trained to alert them ahead of time should be allowed to bring their dog into the store. (Of course, the animal has to be well behaved.
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u/anothercar 18h ago
The Smart & Final across the street may be equal
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u/VreyeanA09 16h ago
It's definitely a toss-up between East Village's Smart & Final or Grocery Outlet.
One of them has poles welded on to all of the carts so that the cart can't fit through the front doors. It kind of says it all that there's greater risk in all the carts being stollen than in discouraging customers from buying enough that they'd need to use the cart get their groceries to the car.
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u/Old_Value_9157 17h ago
Agreed.
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u/anothercar 17h ago
Fortunately they're planning to eventually nuke that Smart & Final, and add it to the new park
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u/orchid_breeder 7h ago
Grocery outlet a couple blocks west on market is way worse imo.
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u/Competitive_Dress770 5h ago
The up escalator from the parking garage has been broken there for like 7 years now.
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u/uberklaus15 17h ago
I went there once or twice, and it was pretty drab/depressing, but your comment has piqued my interest. What's it like in there on a Sunday evening?
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u/Old_Value_9157 17h ago
It’s VERY crowded, extremely long time to get through the checkout and the customers are – how do I say this politely? – Perhaps not the most pleasant human beings you could encounter.
And some of them are just nasty. Like one Sunday night, I’m standing in line, miserable, waiting to get out of this hell hole when this old dude behind me says “do you remember picking asparagus?” (he saw that I had some asparagus in my basket).
I replied “no, I never picked asparagus.”
Then he goes “Oh I was lucky! I picked asparagus when I was a kid in Wisconsin. It was great until the Hmong cam in! Yeah, it was like 40,000 of them, they were supposed to be like war heroes or something, but they just ruined everything.”
Now for a split second I thought he said “mung” like the beans… like they brought in 40,000 whatever of mung bean crops and they displaced the asparagus and he couldn’t pick asparagus anymore or something?
But no, he meant Hmong - people from Vietnam and other southeast Asian countries. Yeah, just decided to strike up a conversation with me and say some very racist things to a complete stranger.
I just stared at him for like five seconds and then turn my back on him.
And I mean, I don’t know if they’re still there, but like the refrigerator section, the last aisle on the left when you walk in, always had rolls of paper towels over the ground vents to soak up water that was leaking from them… Just disgusting
I’ve seen a couple people in the act of stealing things and the guards were hitting the would be thief right in front of me.
One day, they decided not to have those handheld baskets because people kept stealing them, so I guess we were shit out of luck? They’ve since brought them back, but still…
The floor is always look dirty to me
And one day I walked in and just kind of got sick to my stomach, to be honest with you. And I’m just like “I don’t think I’m ever coming back here.” And I just walked out.
And I’ve lived in parts of the country, not nearly as nice as San Diego and I never saw anything like this. Like I’ve lived in some bad neighborhoods in the Midwest and there standard franchise grocery stores were totally fine.
Anyway, that’s just a few things…
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u/locomocopoco 17h ago
Idk about depressing but UTC Ralph’s and Trader Joe’s makes me want to bash the construction company which planned and made that parking and store clusters.
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u/Visual-Path-5692 16h ago
Seriously. That parking lot was designed as a psychological experiment on all of us. There is no other explanation. It’s shaped like a battarang.
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u/PrivilegedPatriarchy 13h ago
The parking lot sucks, but that Ralph’s is actually really nice, spacious, bright, clean, etc
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u/KhoslasBiggestOpp 16h ago edited 14h ago
It was originally a mall. Like, it had a department store, amc that's still there, jewelry shops, the whole shebang. It's why there's so much underground parking, that weird escalator, etc.
As UCSD started catering more towards affluent students, so did the malls. UTC stepped up their high-end game. This meant La Jolla Village Square had to re-think their strategy, so they turned to opening up cheaper grocery stores and restaurants to cater to a different audience so as to not compete with the newer UTC.
It's literally a mall, it's hell.
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u/Voided_Chex 13h ago
I'll have you know that outdoor escalator led to Tower Records, son. Not shoes, Tower Records!
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u/Man-e-questions 9h ago
Dang, i feel old, I remember going to get concert tickets at the top of that escalator on the right was Tower Records’ ticket window.
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u/AikenRhetWrites 8h ago
I miss that place. I discovered so many new artists there and the staff were knowledgeable but never pushy.
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u/LegitimateRisk446 17h ago
Ralph's and Food 4 Less in Mission Valley. Vibes are at their absolute worst after 9 pm
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u/glttrovreverythng 14h ago
I had a checker who was eating an ice cream bar while ringing me up at that Ralph's one time. I had to sit in the car for a few mins to process before bolting outta there.
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u/Vast_Draft7510 17h ago
Walmart? Like, any of them.
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u/thestrangelibrary 17h ago
The Walmart in La Mesa has particularly rancid vibes. Low ceilings, limited inventory, everything locked in cages…I feel a need to flee when I’m in there
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u/TheWawa_24 17h ago
the el cajon one was worse (rip) You also see some stuff in the lakeside one
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u/Final-Western9722 16h ago
When I lived in La Mesa I would go to the college grove Walmart because it was actually better. Not great, but a bit better. Now I live in skyline and go to the national city Walmart, which is significantly nicer than both La Mesa and College Grove…those two are cursed I swear
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u/HandsOnTheBible 14h ago
The Walmart off the 15 on Aero has some creepy vibes lol
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u/PuroPincheChris 17h ago
The one in Rancho Del Rey is really nice.
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u/Comment_Alternative 16h ago
Clean well stocked, fresh vegetables and the cold cases are cold. Plus an absence of addicts at the front door
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u/Yes-please-more-wine 14h ago
I went here quite a bit recently because it's by my mom's house. I told my 19 year old son about the "fancy" Walmart. He begrudgingly agreed that it is pretty nice 😂 after he went with me.
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u/cylonrobot 12h ago edited 4h ago
LOL, I went to that Walmart a couple of months ago. It's fine, maybe even "pretty nice", though I wouldn't admit that to anybody offline.
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u/_thrown_away_again_ 18h ago
Smart and Final in Escondido. the brown concrete floor, beige walls and some idiot busker with an accordion playing My Heart Will Go On every single fucking day in the parking lot
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u/West_Coast_Buckeye 8h ago
Ralph's in Escondido is pretty awful. Bad lighting, crowded, smells weird. It's even worse since they closed Von's across the street
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u/Infinite_Tip_1299 17h ago
Kind of off topic but nothing makes me lose my faith in humanity more then the Costco parking lot
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u/ThisKarmaLimitSucks 17h ago
The Costco/IKEA parking lot in Mission Valley is a Darwinian struggle for existence.
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u/hawaiian717 17h ago
But still better than the Costco Morena parking lot. The one advantage is that the gas line doesn’t back up onto the street like in Mission Valley.
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u/Unfair-Record3313 16h ago
You just have to learn how to deal with the crazies. Mission Valley? I ALWAYS park closer to IKEA and just walk. Morena? I always park and the back and just walk. Carmel Mountain? I purposely drive 15 minutes out of my way because it’s civilized….and I STILL park far away and just walk. Seriously. SO MUCH less stressful AND you get some exercise. Jockeying for a “close” spot is not worth the time and stress. Once you have learned this rule, you will achieve total Costco consciousness.
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u/Feeling-Hotel7154 17h ago
I started parking at the far back of every Costco parking lot years ago. It’s not worth dealing with the idiots at the front who will circle for a spot for 20 minutes just to park 1 minute walk closer to the store
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u/Calie757575 15h ago
I think they purposely make Costco parking lots annoying small, just to drive us crazy.
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u/Calisky 13h ago
Yeah, I haven't been a member for a while, but I would go to the Morena one to get pizza occasionally.
I would park way on the backside past the Tire Center just to avoid having to deal with finding parking in the main part of the lot.
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u/corisilvermoon 17h ago
Sorry to inform you but the 99 Cents Only store in Santee has closed so you will never get to experience that horror.
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u/Logical_Month_7657 16h ago
There is a family dollar at the end of a shopping plaza near Mission Valley that’s horrible. Like..looks like it was looted moments prior to your arrival lol No shelves are full and there like one worker who looks like they’d rather die than be there and a long line but no one actually walking around or shopping
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u/LuluGPeaches78 6h ago
I made a stop there after visiting my friend a while back before it closed. I was in the back of the store, getting a few things. I heard some commotion around the check outs, but I didn’t know what it was about. When I went to check out, the employees were pretty rattled and I found out some guy attempted a machete/knife attack. The guy was caught and arrested by the time I got to my car.
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u/Substantial-Site-565 18h ago
Vons in north park
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u/JRemenshneidersHorse 17h ago
lol that's my Vons. Prices like Erewhon, one human cashier, faint feeling of depression in the air. I'm usually there in the later hours and it feels like a zombie walk.
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u/SeniorVibeAnalyst 17h ago
Yo save yourself the despair and go to Barron’s or Sprouts instead
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u/No-Lobster623 17h ago
Sprouts is so over priced it’s a joke
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u/VreyeanA09 16h ago
And the fact that they don't sell regular $0.10 paper bags is really annoying.
And their sales tags have weird exclusions; several times I've seen something that appears to be marked down to something reasonable, but when I check out it doesn't ring up as that. In trying to get it sorted with the cashiers, things always end up hostile because they assume I'm trying to steal or something and it's just that their sales don't work like a regular grocery store and when I'm in there after work I'm fried and not looking to read tags as carefully as a legal contract. Yes I'd pay $4.50 for those berries but not $9.00.
I used to shop there all the time, but I get almost everything at Ralphs now. The produce sucks but the marked prices are straight forward.
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u/kelvinwaves 13h ago
Or North Park Produce. Way better prices and variety of international foods and good produce too.
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u/tearinitdown 16h ago
Those used to be my jam, now its Lazy Acres and Whole Foods. Sprouts produce sucks lately
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u/TetonHiker 17h ago
The vibe is definitely down market. I mean it has all the usual aisles and aisles of the usual stuff. Even a Starbucks. But the produce is hit or miss. Off-brand berries. Only a small selection. Weird bottleneck to get to the lettuces. Kinda sad bakery area where everything looks stale or like it has too much frosting in garish colors.
And the aisles feel cramped even when they are empty, somehow. The lighting is sort of dim. And there are more oversized Mylar balloons than people most days. Just feels like everyone there is depressed and you will be, too, if you stay too long. But when you just need a jug of milk and a loaf of bread, it's fine for a quick stop.
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u/MaxMorphos 17h ago
The Point Loma one is pretty ass too. 15+ min wait at times for the self checkout when I only have that long of a break
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u/No-Lobster623 17h ago
Besides Vons being stupid expensive and they never have more that one cashier, I don’t mind that one too much. I usually shop late though
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u/thymelincoln 18h ago
Before they did the big remodel the Vons in Hillcrest had a really bad vibe
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u/n00chness 17h ago
I remember that Vons from when I lived in Mission Hills from 2009-2010. It was a glorified convenience store, basically, with a weird parking lot, but I thought the vibes and the workers therw were fine. It was just an older store, that's all
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u/uberklaus15 17h ago
Do you mean the one at Washington and Dove? Because they tore that one down completely and built a whole new building. They also changed it into a Pavilions a few years later.
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u/Accomplished-Air7826 17h ago edited 17h ago
Back in the day there was a “Family foods” in spring valley close to monte vista high school. The people and the whole store seemed to be from the 80’s. It was always empty and the times I went it was always an eerie feeling.
Edit: thank you kind stranger for sharing the name of the grocery store
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u/MortalWombat1234 17h ago
I don’t know how that place lasted as long as it did. The whole shopping center was dead, and had been for what felt like a couple decades at least.
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u/NeverANameber 13h ago
Can confirm: I worked there as lead closing cashier for months, then I was running the deli at night.
My gods, I can tell you so many horror stories about that place. I can name names (I won’t here). But maaaaaaan… some of the shit that was going on behind the scenes (and often in front of them, in front of or with the customers) was just un fucking real.
Honestly, that whole shopping center has a weird story. It kind of explains why it was such a hellhole for so long, and is just more track housing meow.
(I also still live literally right up the street from there. I have a lot of dirt on that area. PM me if you’re so inclined. I’m usually bored 😂)
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u/Crafty_Peach3309 11h ago
I used to love the pizza place next to it, though. The name escapes me at the moment.
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u/itsmyotheralt 18h ago
Vons Serra mesa (walmart in the same lot is bad too). Produce is never fresh, ceiling tiles are moldy, vibes are just generally bad.
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u/eastcounty98 18h ago
That one is decent compared to the Vons in tierrasanta haha
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u/Forsaken_Coach6085 18h ago
That Vons was old and shitty 20 years ago, can’t imagine what it’s like now
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u/lanceskywalker 16h ago
Nah that Vons is perfectly fine. Good produce and friendly staff. I go there all the time
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u/realbigtar 17h ago
Vons - Mission George and Zion
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u/saltywalts 16h ago
Thank you, I was scrolling down to find this one. I live right up the hill from this store. I only go as a last resort, I hate it so much. Lines are always backed up into the aisles, that are too narrow to begin with. Shitty prices, weird funk in the air, terrible parking lot. Vibes are awful. Always puts me in a bad mood. One time, my full shopping cart locked up on the way out even though I was still right next to the store, had to drag it to my car to unload. Picked up the empty cart and rage-yeeted it at the side of the building. My daughter still laughs about how pissed I was. Not my finest hour haha.
TL;DR fuck this place
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u/FAJ11719 7h ago
I’m going to nominate Whole Foods in Hillcrest for the entire experience. First, as a pedestrian you have to fight all the cars trying to get into and out of the lot. Second, the store is small and cramped, which is made worse because Amazon’s home delivery service is using the store as a warehouse. Their delivery people are all over the store along with the regular customers banging into you in a cramped space. Third, the salad bar and the prepared hot foods sections are not well managed. Fourth, as of this weekend, all the pastries are missing from the display cases without explanation. Fifth, some things you can get at bigger Whole Foods are just not on the shelves. Sixth, even the staff don’t reliably know where merchandise is. Someone needs to build a decent grocery store in that location.
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u/Feeling-Hotel7154 17h ago
Sam’s Club. Something about the shitty bright cool-toned lights in the big warehouse with depressed employees really does it for me. Also gives me a little ptsd from my freshman days when i worked there
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u/GentleGreenGyant 17h ago
East Village Grocery Outlet sucks
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u/Anti-Itch 6h ago
Oh my… I happened to see a friend there and we stopped to chat briefly and catch up. Randomly this guy comes up behind her and starts saying some shit like “you come here often?” Or “this is a nice place huh?” And she’s clearly not having it. We walk away and say goodbye and she checks out. The dude follows her to the door (he hadn’t paid so couldn’t leave) but I was like who tf are these people.
I can’t knock on grocery outlet because I love their sales prices etc but damn it can get spooky in there
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u/therestruth 17h ago
I'll be the first to ask, why? I didn't enjoy it when I went to the Vons in North Park a few times, mainly because of parking or the crowd but I'm sure there are worse with even more dreadful staff. Just my experience in the last year.
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u/marktheshark45 17h ago edited 8h ago
H & L Supermarket in City Heights is a crazy one. A lot of expired food on the shelves. The first time I went in, the lights were off and the refridgerators were empty
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u/thestrangelibrary 5h ago
Oh yeah. It’s dystopian af. All the exposed wires hanging down?! The musty dusty crusty items on the shelves?! However that shopping center does have A Chau and Minh Khy so I stay coming back
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u/CaneloGGGSex 17h ago
The Grocery Outlet in Downtown is always a dreadful experience. Always some aggressive and stinky homeless folks inside and outside the store. Super long lines to check out. Often feels unsafe.
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u/DevelopmentEastern75 16h ago
The Stater Brothers right off the 78 on Sycamore was always pretty grim. I had a drug problem and thats where I did my shopping lol. People hustle and con you in the parking lot.
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u/Material-Flower5130 16h ago
Vons on Midway in Point Loma. That store is in desperate need of a refresh. I get bad vibes whenever I go in there.
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u/Adorable_Dust3799 17h ago
I love my local smart n final but the older ones like clmt mesa blvd are horrible
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u/Standard_Still3440 11h ago
My biggest gripe with the Carmel Mountain Costco is that the north end of the parking lot is sloped. So trying to unload your items into your car white the shopping cart continuously tries to roll away is a nightmare. These first world problems are just too much sometimes
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u/falsifiable1 17h ago
Vons in Grantville off Mission Gorge. Getting into it is fine but getting out can take a long time due to layout. It’s also quite drab and uninviting.
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u/hagcel 17h ago
We call the Vons on Adams sad Vons because they will always be out of the one thing we went there to get. Like, "Oops, out of butter today!"
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u/HearthSt0n3r 15h ago
Keep the normal heights Vons out your mouth. I ride or die for my homies there
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u/Spookins 9h ago
Ralph’s in hillcrest, every time I’ve been there’s not only who you’d expect as tweakers doing strange things but people who look more normal tweaking out too, so even more tweakers. It was so unsettling haha - CVS in Northpark is a close second
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u/eweezy282 8h ago
Dollar tree off market will make you certainly feel depressed and afraid for your life at the same time
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u/Flag-it 5h ago
The neighborhood Walmart on imperial I think east of east village is without a doubt the worst grocery store I’ve ever been too.
Looks like it’s gone now, but it was like 1/10th of a normal Walmart size and in a hellscape of homelessness from all sides.
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u/Thin_Dream2079 3h ago
I love how 2026 social is all about the worst of everything. I love that for us.
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u/ClassyNameForMe 17h ago
Ralph's in Carmel Mountain. The aisles are so narrow it is sometime hard to pass two carts.
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u/Aggressive_Dress6771 10h ago
I’m surprised no one mentioned the Whole Foods in La Jolla. The store is OK—it’s what you’d expect from a Whole Foods. But the parking lot is beyond atrocious. Access isn’t bad, but there are no parking spaces available ever. And egress is awful to the point of being potentially dangerous. God help us all if there’s a fire or other emergency in one of the stores.
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u/ArBee30028 7h ago
Not to mention that no real shoppers actually shop there anymore— it’s just Amazon/ Door Dash delivery contractors with their ginormous carts that take up the entire aisle, looking down at their phones to find what’s next on their list. Whole Foods has totally lost the plot.
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u/dg303pilot 16h ago
Vons in Mira Mesa. Small footprint so they try to make up for it by loading the aisles with product. Can’t move a cart without hitting something or someone.
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u/cortisolandcaffeine 16h ago
I lived in East Village for 5 years and only ever went to the smart and final once because the vibes were so bad and everything looked half abandoned
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u/rabbit-pineapple 8h ago
Wow u want something worse than the apocalyptic Albertsons in east village ?? That’s hard to beat.
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u/yallarefuckingweird 6h ago
smart and final on university. never been inside bc the vibes seem so bad just from the outside
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u/CrispyHoneyBeef 15h ago
ALDI on Balboa has been pretty empty recently. Quite depressing, like a Soviet Potemkin Village
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u/Cornelius707 18h ago
Idk if it’s the worst, but Vons in Mira Mesa is up there!
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u/sinksank 18h ago
Is there a Vons in this city that isn’t depressing?
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u/Forsaken_Coach6085 17h ago
Torrey Highlands location is usually pretty dead but clean and nice-ish
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u/martymcflyiii 17h ago
Adams Ave one is fine
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u/2cats5legs 17h ago
That's the one we call “Sad Vons”
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u/Visual-Path-5692 16h ago
That’s my Vons. The employees really are so nice. But yeah- otherwise it’s a sad mess. They’ll be out of basic inventory for several weeks at a time. All the time. The aisles make no sense.
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u/Pristine-Broccoli-79 16h ago
We live within walking distance of that Vons so it’s ours too. My husband and I were in Mission Valley today to run other errands and were trying to decide if we should go grocery shopping there too. In the end we decided to drive back home and go to Vons on Adams Ave because, “It may be sad Vons, but it’s our Vons.”
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u/LC__LC 18h ago
I know it's not SD, but the one in del mar is very nice.
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u/uberklaus15 17h ago
That one is actually very much within the city limits of San Diego! Don't believe those liars who renamed that shopping center "Beachside Del Mar"; it is neither Beachside nor in Del Mar.
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u/marshmellowyoda 18h ago
Grocery outlet
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u/jwhyem 17h ago
The one in Allied Gardens is pretty nice; the one on 54th near ECB is also pretty nice but the center it’s in is very very shabby
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u/No_Net_9791 17h ago
Which one? The Point Loma one is so awesome
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u/Aggravating_Depth_33 11h ago
I actually find the Point Loma one pretty awful. Allied Gardens is the best.
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u/Thesis_11 15h ago
Seems like all stores are bad in SD? I don't understand why... I recently went to a Whole Foods and Trader Joe's in Santa Monica and I was so shocked by how good they were.
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u/Aggravating_Depth_33 11h ago
The Whole Foods in Hillcrest is so bad. It's so small and always so busy. And there's a special place in hell for whoever designed their parking.
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u/MegaMac619 16h ago
Seems to be any one I decide to go for just one thing. But that Walmart in El cajon on second st can get fucked
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u/Dogbit699 9h ago
Smart and final near rosecrans is really cramped
Good set of guys working the place though
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u/Tiovivo1 7h ago
Five below. Even though it has “fun stuff” like candy and footballs and such, the fluorescent light and so much blur in the store makes it a downer.
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u/insufficient_garlic 5h ago
Confession. Trader Joes PB. Too many people all over the place and the aisles are crooked! I get tense just walking in the door.
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u/Ok-Resource9398 5h ago
Foodland on Euclid. A walking, reality show, one of a kind entertainment experience!
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u/mikeyP-619 4h ago
99 Ranch on Claremont Mesa Blvd. I once got served raw pork there. The parking spots or so tiny and people park their over sized SUVs there. It’s a challenge to get in and out of your car. And lastly THE PLACE JUST STINKS!!!
The 99 Ranch on Balboa is better and you can actually park without saying a prayer while getting out of your car. And the place doesn’t stink.
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u/bunnybabiey 2h ago
The Target off College and the 76 in Oceanside is the most dismal target Ive EVER been to. It doesnt even feel like a target in there


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u/Trailblazertravels 17h ago
Not a grocery store but CVS in North Park feels like I can catch something just by being inside it.