r/rickandmorty • u/Different_Sky9094 • 23h ago
General Discussion If Beth’s was abandoned by ricks then who looked after Beth?
If they was abandoned then who did look after Beth growing up.If ricks jus come and go or straight up abandoned her how did she basically survive as a kid.she doesn’t have her mom nor ricks,im hoping this wasn’t explained in a previous season but jus curious how she managed by herself.imma be honest if they did a spin off of Beth navigating growing up alone that be cool.
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u/Finn_Mertens628 23h ago
1- That's not Rick Prime 2- In season 1 Beth talked about how Rick abounded Diane. (That was Rick Prime who left his family before completely erasing Diane with the Omega Device.) 3- Diane raised her after Prime left.
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u/Different_Sky9094 23h ago
When was Diane erased
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u/Finn_Mertens628 23h ago
We don't exactly know but it was way later than when beth was a child
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u/CloudstrifeHY3 23h ago
teenager at least she has caught memories of being dropped off at high school by mom but can't remember mom
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u/Wranorel 12h ago
I don’t think it work back in time. Slow Mobius children were still there.
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u/cayleexo 7h ago
and beth is diane’s child and shes still there, it doesnt remove them like they were never there. it just removes them specifically from memories and all universes
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u/MediocreVehicle4652 6h ago
It doesn't erase a person from the past, only current versions, but it erases memories of the person too
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u/Top_County_6130 15h ago
But he sure as hell looks like him. Always wondered how does the first dimension jump worked with regards to rick prime.
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u/vedant_1st 8h ago
Then is this some random rick? Like even if this is prime is, there is no problem with the continuity so I think it's meant to be prime
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u/cayleexo 7h ago
that is “hot rick” hes not a real rick, hes a rouge memory of rick, and thats just a memory of beth
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u/SinisterPixel "For a friend!" 23h ago
In most universes, Diane. The omega device came way later down the line. I'm guessing when more Ricks showed resistance like C-137 did. It's not specified exactly when. But what would make the most sense would be if it was either shortly before or after she met Jerry and got pregnant with Summer, which happened when she was 17 years old.
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u/aPerfect_Six 22h ago
We’ve never been shown other Ricks “resisting.” If you’re confused by the other Ricks who we saw hunting Prime in Unmortricken, don’t forget that sometime 15-20 years ago, Prime killed every Rick’s Diane.
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u/EobardT 20h ago
That's true, maybe after C137 refused him, he went to work on the Device Too Cool For A Name to avoid the situation in the future and it took him a decade to build it
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u/aPerfect_Six 20h ago
No, he was recruiting Ricks to work for him. He explained his motivation in both Solaricks and Unmortricken. In Solaricks he told Jerry Prime that he doesn't do team ups anymore because managing people was a "headache." The image of this post depicts Rick C-131 abandoning his Beth to go work for Prime. That's why he's dressed like Prime and has an empty portal gun.
From everything they've shown us ,the most likely reason Prime invented the Omega Device was because he failed to do whatever he was recruiting all the Ricks for. Based on how he pitched it to C-137 in Rickshank Redemption, he was probably trying to build the Curve, but C-137 killed so many of his minions that they wanted to go back home to their families, which ticked him off. "You think you're better than me so I took your precious Diane from you in every dimension" or whatever he said. He basically made himself an enemy to all Ricks everywhere in order to prove that he was The Rick, the best of them all, who they can't kill or even find because he's so much smarter than all of them.
We don't know for sure what he was trying to do with all those Ricks, but the Omega Device was a result of their failure to do what he wanted. If you think about it, it's pretty cool that C-137 was second to build a portal gun, but he was the only Rick who could do the Curve. Prime didn't do that. Prime may have had a greater capacity to kill, but C-137 was certainly as intelligent as Prime, if not a little bit moreso.
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u/SinisterPixel "For a friend!" 14h ago
You literally summarised my comment
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u/aPerfect_Six 10h ago
You indicated that there were other Ricks who "showed resistance like C-137 did." To this point, we've never met another Rick who declined the offer like C-137 did.
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u/SinisterPixel "For a friend!" 8h ago
All the Ricks in Prime's trap are implied to have rejected the technology.
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u/cayleexo 7h ago
no theyre there bc when he kill diane c137 with the omega device, that in turn took EVERY ricks diane, and thats why theyre all after them.. he didnt hunt down the diane of everyone who rejected him, he didnt have to, he had the omega device
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u/SinisterPixel "For a friend!" 7h ago
He didn't kill Diane C-137 with the Omega Device. He used a bomb. The same bomb that took out his Beth.
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u/aPerfect_Six 7h ago
Please timestamp the moment they were implied.
The only time the show has told us anything regarding this is "Ricks don't refuse this offer," making C-137 a singular Rick in that regard. But it is a fairly common fan mistake to conflate Rick's backstory with the other Ricks who were there, forgetting that 15-20 years ago Prime killed every Rick's Diane.
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u/SinisterPixel "For a friend!" 7h ago
https://youtu.be/L-10Pa2KHmY?si=HhGNKaCgvF-b-yWA&t=20
20 seconds in if the timestamp doesn't work. "You're me, but less. You acted like you were better". While not explicitly saying they rejected portal travel, it heavily implies that they at the very least rejected/resisted Rick Prime.
He also says to every Rick in the room "It's your fault I had to use it on her", again, implying that he chose to do this because of other Ricks resisting him
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u/aPerfect_Six 6h ago
If they rejected portal travel, and if only two Ricks had ever invented portal travel, then those Ricks wouldn't have portal travel. They'd be living their lives outside the CFC mourning the death of their wife.
The show has told us what happened. Prime was recruiting Ricks for a purpose that has yet to be explicitly conveyed, although all indications are that he was trying to build the CFC. At some point, he gave up on this, Omega'd Diane, and disappeared.
So what happened that made "managing" other Ricks "such a headache"? Presumably, it was what they've shown us - Rick C-137 kept killing Prime's operatives, all the other Ricks got sick of it and began talking about giving up and going back to their families, and Prime said "you think you're better than me because you have families to return home to?" So he killed Diane across infinity, making him the enemy to all Ricks everywhere, and then he disappeared.
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u/cayleexo 7h ago
he only had to do it once, the omega device is so he can kill 1 diane and erase them all
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u/Strong_Wrangler3005 23h ago edited 18h ago
Different universes probably had different time zones or something like this. We can see in Beth's memories that when Rick memory brainwashed her, she had her mom growing up. When it got to the point where he erased Diane from the entire multiverse, Beth was already maybe an adult or in her late 20s, as we can see in a memory when she arrives to pick her up from college or university.
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u/aPerfect_Six 22h ago
We saw Diane picking up Beth from high school detention. We never saw any trace of Diane after that point, including from memories where Beth had her baby shower for Summer. It’s likely that by the time Beth got with Jerry, Diane was gone.
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u/mpschettig 21h ago
Dianne raised Beth. In the season 8 finale Rick says that to Beth I believe in those exact words
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u/serendrewpity 19h ago
Rick C-137 was trying to invent portal tech. Rick Prime appears after already discovering interdimensional travel and offers to share it. C-137 refuses.
Diane and Beth C-137 died in the garage explosion at the hands of Rick Prime.
Rick C-137 hunted Rick Prime for decades, not just several years. Rick C-137 hunted Rick Prime across the multiverse and killed countless Ricks along the way.
Some Dianes did raise Beth, but not in all dimensions. C-137 is one of many where Diane and young Beth were killed. However, Rick Prime later erased Diane from every universe with the Omega Device. Season 8’s “Hot Rick” supports that Diane raised Beth in at least some realities, but the show does not cleanly pin down Beth’s exact age when the Omega Device was used. Rick says the Omega Device erased Diane everywhere and messed with memories, so Beth only thinks she remembers her mom clearly. C-137 eventually moved into Rick Prime’s abandoned Beth’s family, meaning Morty Prime’s family, as a trap to wait for Rick Prime. But whether that happened before or after the Omega Device is not nailed down.
So Prime Diane raised Beth. But I have a theory. Why would Rick Prime kill Prime Diane. I think she is still alive.
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u/Eternalyskeptic 23h ago
Beth Prime?
Diane Prime, until Rick Prime omega deviced her.
From the last Episode of season 8, it seemed that happened sometime when Beth was in Highschool.
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u/TorresLabs 22h ago
There are some many different Ricks, other than the classic C137 type of Rick. Most probably the answer range from, “nobody, she was left as orphan” to “Rick and Diane rise her”.
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u/Then-Mud5477 22h ago
I dont know if you can really say the classic c137 type of rick if c137 is supposed to be the rickest rick
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u/aPerfect_Six 21h ago
You realize every Rick probably describes himself as “the Rickest Rick.”
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u/Then-Mud5477 21h ago
Lol yeah but there was a single one who was the sole cause of the finite curve and the only one able to find and kill rick prime putting him above his intelligence and also i think the rickest title means moreso the most them version of them that exists. Why im thinking it doesnt just rely on utility or capabilities of the individual but also if they are the focal point of the personality
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u/zippingzac 20h ago
If im not mistaken wasn't C137 the only other Rick to actually invent portal travle all the others just got it from Rick prime or from Rick's who got it from Rick prime ect ect.
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u/aPerfect_Six 20h ago
At times, even C-137 has indicated that it's Prime who is the "real deal," specifically in terms of how cold and detached Rick wishes he was. You could argue that the thing that makes him the Rickest Rick is his possessing those feelings of attachment for his family, although we've seen other Ricks in the multiverse who are intricately more connected with their families than even C-137 is. (Wasp Rick in particular.)
In terms of being The Rick on the series, I think it's a little more complicated than scale of intelligence, or cold detachment, or the direct opposite. Or, really, a little more simple: The thing that makes Rick the "Rickest" Rick is that he's the protagonist we follow.
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u/Then-Mud5477 13h ago
Rick never wanted to be like rick prime, wanting to be the oposite of him is what got his wife and daughter killed. Maybe the only rick who was fully detached from his emotions but it can feel like he killed every other ricks diane as a way to reinforce to himself he was right. He says its a nonstop party with the only person he likes but obviously he is intolerant of anyone who thinks differently than him and id be pressed to say he hates anyone with lower intelligence than him which come to think of it that could be a second motif on edging along the evolutional pool by forcing the ricks to drop the love they have for their families eventually leaving them no choice in loving diane by erasing her but i feel still like a part of it could be the fact he couldnt allow himself to feel that regret of abandoning the people he loved so he erased her spirit and her memory. Im stoned tho so this is all probably just headcanon
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u/aPerfect_Six 11h ago
Rest and Ricklaxation disagrees with you, considering that Rick sees his attachment to Morty as a weakness.
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u/Freakazette 16h ago
Diane. Rick even said this when Beth wishes she could have met her mother. She just doesn't remember because of the Omega device.
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u/Xonthelon 14h ago
We don't really know when the Omega Device was fired. Only C-137's wife (and daughter) were killed directly. As for all other Beths their moms might have been around much longer, maybe even until high school. And there might be relatives of Rick and Diane the show hasn't introduced yet. Their parents (Beth's grandparents) are likely dead by now, so I doubt they would introduce them this late in the game. But there still might be a uncle/aunt of Beth around.
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u/Long-Ad3842 18h ago
if not diane then wouldnt beth still have either one of her grandparents from her mom or dad?
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u/Early_Celebration726 8h ago
Her mom. I might build an OD of my own at this rate.
Show has both told and shown this yet here we are..
Am I your grandson? That's this place in perpetuity.
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u/nemofbaby2014 4h ago
The current Beth’s Rick died didn’t h3 after the cronenberg incident Rick primes family is all dead now except Morty my guess is for a while Rick prime was gathering Rick’s up as his own personal army along with wearing the same clothes
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u/aPerfect_Six 22h ago
Watch the episode again. How old was Beth when Diane picked her up from school?
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u/I_Slipp 18h ago
We see Diane picking up Beth from what looks like high school but we don’t see Diane at the baby shower or afterward. It’s likely Diane parenting Beth, omega device erasing Diane, and then pregnant by Jerry all happened very closely in time theoretically. So Diane 17 and before, Jerry and his parents after 17 taking care of Beth.
It’s very possible that Beth was emotionally vulnerable enough to let some loser like Jerry date her when your only parent and support just vanish not only from reality but memory too. Meaning Jerry is part of what makes the omega device so horrible as a secondary effect that doesn’t kill Beth but cripples her for life.
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u/Standard_Hearing_712 23h ago
We can assume that Diane was erased around the time beth was already an adult in all honesty. Rick's family was killed in the traditional sense, and Rick seemed to only find out about the omega device way into his journey fighting other Ricks.