Disclaimer: I am not looking to argue or incite heated debate on broad opinions. I am looking for a nuanced discussion with different people about their personal lived experience. In this sub specifically, I am willing to discuss the idea of whether poly belongs in LGBTQIA+, but even still, it would be a secondary discussion to the point of those post.

So this has been an interesting discussion to me just because of how... "contentious" it can be for some. Now, obviously most spaces are quite understanding and accepting of all perspectives, but occasionally I see it get oddly heated. This subreddit in particular has had some very good, accepting discussions on this topic before, so it seemed like a good place to pose the question!

To get right to the point, to me it seems to obviously be both an inherent, inborn trait for some, and a choice for others. My reasoning for this starts with my own experience as a bisexual person. The feeling of being bisexual, and the realization of it, as an inherent part of who I am that I could not change, is almost exactly the same experience I have as a polyamorous person, except for one major difference. I could not choose to be straight, but I can genuinely choose to be with someone of any gender, which is where the one major difference comes in.

For a clearer comparison, a gay person cannot choose to be straight either, but they can choose and have chosen to participate in relationships as if they were straight. This does not make them straight though, as most would readily agree. This is where my experience differs from being bisexual, because while I can and have participated in monogamous relationships, I do not feel comfortable or fulfilled in them, in fact, they cause me a great deal of personal distress. It was even to the point that it was contributing to my depression, which my therapist agreed with. Where my experience is the same as my being bisexual is in the feeling of it being an immutable, inborn trait. I know both implicitly and empirically (from my experience in mono relationships) that I could not choose to be monogamous in any capacity besides disingenuous participation.

To clarify, I have been in four relationships in my life, first two mono, second two poly, which includes my current relationship. I have never cheated on anyone, and I never would. My first relationship was with someone who wasn't very good to me, and ended with her dumping me. My second relationship I ended myself after realizing that I simply could never do mono and communicated that to her. I am always honest and open with any and all potential partners about my identity and needs. I of course can understand why these things can be a concern for many, and I don't take my identity being used as an excuse lightly either, but focusing on these concerns does seem to side-step the core question, and I don't think the existence of bad actors is enough to deny or discredit a whole concept. It honestly almost feels to me like a re-hashing of the same claim that some mono people make against polyamory as a whole, that it's "just an excuse to cheat" or "your just incapable of real, committed relationships". I'm not preemptively accusing anyone here, just to be clear, just being thorough with my thoughts.

Now, as to why I say it's both, and not just how I experience it, well, firstly I trust people's reports about their own life and lived experience, and secondly because I don't see why you couldn't be naturally monogamous, polyamorous (like myself), or ambiamorous, just like being straight, gay, or bisexual/pansexual. I, as a bisexual person, can genuinenly choose to be with a man or a woman, and an ambiamorous person could genuinely choose to be in a monogamous or polyamorous relationship. I believe this to be the case for those who feel it's purely a choice, even if I obviously don't think that anyone should be required to self identify as ambiamorous. Now, I am genuinely curious about how you all personally identify, but I'm also genuinely curious as to why any position on your own identity and lived experience should be contentious at all. I'm happy to hear from everyone!

Additional information for reference: I am a cis man, am 22, realized I was bi at 14 and poly at 16, there were signs for both as early as 10 (as far as I can recall), and I have had other arrangements in between my romantic relationships, including FWB and casual play (which I do not view or feel as being related to my need for polyamory), and I'm currently in a healthy and committed polyamorous relationship with someone who feels the same way.

Tomorrow, I am going to the tell the non-binary couple The Thing!

I'mma tell them that I've been awkward and twitchy wasn't Just the undiagnosed AuDHD... but that I've been attracted to them both since I was introduced to me by their partner... Who was my manager.😵

My mama didn't raise no rude dude. I wasn't gonna do any thing with those feelings. So opack 'em nice and neat in a pretty box... And hide on a shelf in my attic.

Welp, the attic floor gave out a month ago and I've been sorting through boxes. I found theirs... And I'm not gonna miss my chance again!

If 3 Enbys can't make a decision, we can at least make a great cuddle pile!

I'm Scotty, a trans, pansexual, poly person. I am in an open relationship and dating 3 people :D When did you realize you were poly? I realized when I had many crushes and was okay with dating them all if I could :D

hello! i am new here and wanted to share how ive been feeling about my new dynamic with my partner as we explore opening up our relationship.

a little backstory, my domestic partner and i were friends for a few yrs before we started dating. my partner and i are both acespec, but my libido is higher and my partner does not experience sexual attraction, but enjoys sex. This has been something that has affected me in the past in ways where ive become uncertain of my partner's dedication to our relationship because of my own paranoid thinking (i have severe mental illness, it feels very real to me sometimes). we spoke about it recently and my partner made clear to me that if i wanted to fulfill these needs elsewhere i was free to as long as we talked about my relationships outside of my partner together. i was much more receptive to this idea than i would have been a yrar ago starting this relationship because i have learned a lot about myself and have been through recovery to heal the wounds that cause me to anticipate jealousy like i did.

i believe i am ambiamorous and i am enjoying exploring the part of me that yearns for the multiple relationships that polyamory offers. i have now started talking to a friend of mine who is a pup as well as a girl i met on taimi who i really like spending time with who is also a pup and ive been so excited about these new relationships forming.

the friend was somebody who spoke up about having feelings for me after my partner and i asked if they wanted to move out together with us to make rent cheaper for all of us as were all trying to get out of our parent's hiuses this yr. this happened a few weeks after my partner and i opened up our relationship and i had actually considered asking this friend to hook up with me before but got too scared lol. so i was honest about what the relationship im currently in looks like and we agreed to go on a date. the date went SO well and i realized what my feelings were pushing me towards was a second domestic partnership with them so that i could take care of both of them under one roof as a housewife of sorts. ive always craved the dynamic of having a butch to look after and take care of, and now i may have that with 2 people. my friend recoprocated when i expressed these feelings and i was on top of the moon! we have another date next wednesday and we talk most days now.

onto the puppy im playing with... i met her on taimi and she is a sweet trans girl. ive never been with anybody other than my partner so i was a little worried i wouldnt 'perform' well, but i was completely proven wrong lol. we enjoyed eachother so much and i felt new sensations i havent felt before (my partner and i havent tried everuthing i want to try due to my partners sensory issues, but this pup was more than on board with those things :]). it felt nice to have sortof-casual sex for the first time, but also we are also going to hang out sometime next week at her place to watch her favourite show!! so im hoping we can be longterm fwb and have a good time together.

its so nice to have so many people to go to, to show the things i love to. i dont think i will try to maintain any more serious relationships besides hookups outside of these 3 relationships now, at least at this time, because im feeling at capacity. polysaturated lol.

but i am loving every bit of it. im loving the honest conversations with my partner and i, the feeling of telling my partner what i did with another person, the freeness to expiriment. i felt stuck for a while, in a rut in my relationship because i felt as if i wasnt recieving everything i need but im realizing so clearly now that i just cant find everything in my complex web of needs in one person, regardless of who that person was. my partner now is my primary and will continue to be, and the same is true for my partner with me. my partner is even going out with a friend of ours soon to see where things go and i find myself so excited for my partner, wondering what my partner will come to me and tell me about what they did together. i truly love being in a gay friend group where everyone just starts dating eachother 😭 i wouldnt trade this for the world!!

anyways. thats my absurdly long ramble about where im at. if youd like to share anything about your experiences that relate to mine or something else you thought about, id love to hear. thanks for reading!!

I am sharing out there this post that I wrote because the ethics of ethically non-monogamous polyamory are pretty much the same basic guidelines that are useful to sustain healthy social connections in general.

The defining difference between closed relationships and open relationships is actually qualitatively, as in HOW we approach our interactions with our social connections, instead of quantitatively, as in NOT IN NUMBER of simultaneous connections, because no one stops being connected to a diverse network of simultaneous connections just for being in a totally closed committed intimate relationship, whether monoamorous or polyamorous.

The difference between consensual non-monogamy and ethical non-monogamy is exactly the same difference between the words "must" and "should", in the sense that all connections should always be ethical, but must always be consensual in order to avoid legal trouble.

Informed and genuine consensual non-monogamy is defined as the valid, reasonable, required and bare minimum limit for sustaining healthy connections that separates love from violations.

Gender variant, gay, polyamorous, aromantic, and asexual people can be united together as worthy of the constant free love fights for basic rights because they are socioculturally discriminated CONSENSUAL love minorities in ways more similar than what you may think.

Ethical non-monogamy is defined as a valuable ideal for sustaining healthy social connections of diverse types that is a goal worth pursuing.

Ethical non-monogamy is often further defined in explanations as HONEST non-monogamy, NEGOTIATED non-monogamy, FAIR non-monogamy, EQUITABLE non-monogamy, SUPPORTIVE non-monogamy, RESPECTFUL non-monogamy, ACCOUNTABLE non-monogamy, RESPONSIBLE non-monogamy, COMMITTED non-monogamy, and as CONSENSUAL non-monogamy.

Where and how are drawn the lines that delineate the definition of things are pretty blurry, because they are relative, as in socioculturally constructed, in another words, made up by humans, varying at different points of space and time, depending, at a smaller scale, on an individual to individual basis, and, at a larger scale, on a culture to culture basis.

That means that the definitions of things are not set in stone definitely defined by the universe, but does not necessarily mean that relativity is an insurmountable ethical obstacle without any way around that permanently stops any rather ecofeminist negotiation of reasonable sustainable agreements for collectively better healthy social lives.

What matters more is how each of all of us specifically define each word, because you could set up someone, including yourself, for a misunderstanding, disappointment and unfulfillment if someone can not read minds and you do not use words precisely to ask for what you need and want specifically with straightforward honest communication when negotiating informed consent to anything.

Feel free to contribute to the comments section below a list of "green flag" keywords to describe how is defined what ethical connections in general mean specifically to each of you once you figure that out in order to avoid misunderstandings, disappointment and unfulfillment, because you may find yourself surprised at the existence of as many different perspectives as different individuals exist.

I also highly recommend sitting down to further define what words, like "honesty", "negotiation", "fairness", "equity", "support", "respect", "accountability", "responsibility", "commitment", "consent", among others, mean specifically to each of you before giving to anything consent that really is informed.

TL;DR: We should contextualize and recontextualize specifically what each of all of us means by ethical and other words, including even words that have apparently obvious meanings, especially before giving to anything consent that really is informed, even if is permanently impossible to generalize ethical non-monogamy ethics into one general universal standard.

I really hope that sharing this helps at least someone out there.

NP and I are thriving. 5+ years together and just relish our beautiful lil life. This is after me getting divorced, being pushed out of a miserable job, and facing an almost career-ending injury. She’s been so fucking solid and supportive the whole way. So understanding and kind. We’ll sit on the couch after dinner just talking nonsense that speaks to one another. We started poly and are still. I connected with someone recently and it’s insane and hot and sweet. long distance of course. New connections always bring up many conversations and NP is so jazzed for us and it’s made us even closer. Just wanted to share some positivity bc the internet shows a pretty dysfunctional side of what polyamory can be. We’re just so glad to be gay, parallel play our video games, and still get kinky and/or love in the bedroom. The states may be falling apart but we’re so happy in our lil bubble.

Title: QUICK QUESTION: Do You Consider The Loves Of Your Loves To Also Be Your Partners Somehow?

For context, today I was cheered up when I came across a comment by a woman explaining that she and her metamour being like partners, not sexually nor romantically nor domestically, but partners in loving their mutual partner in common, like a support team, was what really worked in helping her overcome her jealousy, fears, anxieties and other insecurities.

Do you also consider the loves of your loves to also be your partners somehow, even if not sexually nor romantically?

2 ex-fiances & 9 years of toxic straight monogamy with people who "are poly" until you press the issue later & I'm finally free. I unintentionally tripled my body count in the first month & have yet to be with another Cis person. My most recent ex fiance outright said, "you will never have that, why would you ever think you deserved that?" When I explained my sexuality to her. The jokes on her; my first sexual encounter after her was a three-way that's now a triad with two people I objectively find hotter than I see regularly & we do kinky shit I refused to do with her because she was so creepy about kinks. I was past my breaking point in my last relationship; if I knew things could actually improve for me this quickly, I would've wiped my hands of our relationship (engagement ring & all) when she first said polyamory isn't a real sexuality after forcing me into 5 years of fucking monogamy at that point!

Sure, there are some bumps in the road, and my luck isn't quite as good as the first month these days, but I have a little group I'm happy & safe with. When I have a prospective date or kinky encounter on the horizon, it's an FYI message that is met with exclamation points & heart emojis. I'll probably have ups & downs, but every day is fulfilling. I can go to a party with two gorgeous, loving people in my arms & give me kisses in front of our friend groups & it's a self-worth validation gender/sexuality euphoria every time.

Now, I'm a young adult who's not out as queer to my family as it's never been relevant, & the biggest hurdle in my personal life is going to be the combined, "Hi parents, I'm not straight, I replaced the dorky ex GF who likes turtles with a baddie with face tats & a tiny genderless forest sprite (& one day more cuties if I'm so lucky). Can we three come over & have a drink around the campfire?"

Sorry for my English, obviously not my first language 😉

BTW since there is a chance that someone of the story reads our story, well “Hello there^^”

So myself (m 4X years) and JPEG (f 4X years) have been together for over 20 years. For me JPEG was my first girlfriend and everything coming with it. But deep in my heart I knew I am kinky, queer and strange (also ADHD). But JPEG is very heteronormative and mono. During our university days we dabbled a bit into kink and swinging with a couple we where friends with. Unfortunately, our first visit to a club turned really sour so no kink and such for the next 10 years. After I finished a long contract we traveled the world for a year. During that time we met CASSETTE (F 4x years) from another continent  and JUMPER (F 3x years)  from our home country. CASSETTE was an instant crush for JPEG and she even told CASETTE that she would leave me for her.  And even stuff like poly or threesomes was for me on the table. But well CASETTE has some relationship issues and, well JPEG is mono and straight. So we formed a friendship and I watched the last 10 years during remote calls and the occasional visit their awkward friendship. Both of them enjoying spending time together and such .. but you know in a total not queer way.

During these years I had my share of situations that could have turned very sexy with a open relationship but Is stayed faithful. Because Mono and such.

 JUMPER became a good friend of us. She is very queer and open. So for me she was always a inspiration for a way of life that I found interesting. We became best friends, and more than once I wished we where open, but since JUMPER and myself love JPEG too much to hurt her, nothing happened. We had even holidays with 3 persons, which could have ended with us all three in a bed, but again JPEG is totally straight and mono.

Well I am member of the “Chaos” the European hacker scene.  JUMPER is also there, so the last years our little “getaway” was to go to chaos events. For these of you who don’t know the chaos computer club, just imagine the events like a anime con, crossed with a furry convention and a bit of burning man mixed in with more lights and computer. It is queer, strange, interesting and absolutely not neurotypical ^^. For JUMPER and myself these events where always a yearly friendship event. A lot of talking and such. JPEG sometimes would come with me and visit the city but would always stay in a tourist mode. You know visiting the city, walking the event but not interacting much or grabbing a soldering iron.

At the start of 2024 I had a breakdown, and told JPEG that I am bi, I am not mono. I really need kink in my life and I would like to have sex with men. That I craved BDSM and that stuff we did for the last 20 years was not enough. While we had some toys and books, JPEG never really engaged with it, because she was mono etc. We had a big discussion but nothing came out of it, but we visited a local sex store and a bit more kink became our routine.

A while after that breakdown another chaos event was on the schedule. But since it was a bit farer aways and close to JPEGS Birthday she wanted to come. Sure, so we spend a nice time there. Just JPEG and myself. We enjoyed the event and JPEG was interacting with a lot of folks, visiting nerdy events in town, soldering and other stuff. Like 5 minutes in the event and she was fully integrated. But still she was not a nerd ^^.

Two weeks after the event JPEG came to me and said that we needed to talk. During that event she met this nice gay guy and she wanted to hook me up with him. So she finally started accounts on the nerdy socials and started to write with him. Well it turned out that he was in fact not gay but very straight, but queer as fuck and also poly. And the two started to hook up and write more and more. And JPEG wanted that we switched to poly. Sure, lets talk. And we talked and talked and talked. Because JOYSTICK (M 3x years) and JPEG where absolutely incapable of arranging dates. So I sat and listened to her, and talked, because I though sure, if she wants to open she should have also the first date. But it was antagonizing to see their failed attempts in meeting up and seeing JPEG going from NRE to full blown annoyed with the situation.

But hey suddenly kink was in the books. Because JOYSTICK got her into the Idea of bdsm. Well, sure why not. But actually, it turned out we are both switches and JPEG had some ideas left from before her opening up. But she also went to ultra queer, like rainbow merch and such.

She became a bit frustrated with JOYSTICK, but finally after 6 months we went to another chaos event, and JOYSTICK was also there. And finally on the 4^th day of the event both of them finally scheduled 2 hours in our hotel room. Because JOYSTICK was with MANUAL (F 4x years) they spend most days just running past each other. But finally MANUAL and myself looked at each other and the two scurried of, and I spend a nice evening talking to MOTHERBOARD and LED (another poly person, f 2x) about poly and the world.

 Everything went quite well for JPEG and everyone was more or less happy. The last day of the event we 4 went out for some food and it was quite nice.

But still JPEG and JOYSTICK where not really able to make new dates and a while later JOYSTICK started to ghost JPEG for some time. Meanwhile I gave JUMPER finally a call that I was now officially poly and we could have a date. So we had a nice weekend. When I arrived home JPEG was a bit miffed. But nothing I really could lay my finger on. Unfortunately I got some health issues so that sexy time was not so much on the agenda with JPEG and myself. Then in December, the BIG chaos event, the congress was coming up. We all had hotels in the same spot, so in total we were a bigger group ^^. We met other nice kinky poly nerdy folks and made our friend group bigger. But unfortunately during the event it became clear that all our talking between JPEG and myself where under different assumptions. I always talked and tried to make arrangements for both of us and also for a general idea. JPEG was always talking just for herself, and for that exact situation. So like kissing other persons was ok, but just for that exact date with that person. So that was the reason why she was miffed with me and JUMPER. Because she just opened up our relationship for that one DATE with JOYSTICK on that one event. And since she hadn’t made a date with JOYSTICK on that event right now, I couldn’t have something with JUMPER (or MANUAL or LED, both grew close in the last months) . Well, so I called of all ideas of dates. And we talked and talked again. Pfffff, well thanks to all the new poly friends we are now on a better track. But well the last year was an interesting time. And that just scratches the surface ^^. 

But I really like the poly community. Having suddenly a support network of nice people to talk to, to be honest and being my real queer self is just so much better. Guess this is sort of my just wanting to tell that crazy story to someone.  I am sort of looking forward what 2025 will bring.

Sharing is caring, but caring should not be sacrificing, so I am sharing this post that I have written because we have been living in an unsustainable and exploitative patriarchal worldwide reality that constantly tries to condition, shame, pressure, coerce, manipulate, gaslight and even brainwash everyone, especially more feminine people, from a very early age, to not value our own existence.

That often makes us believe that we ought, if not need, to sacrifice our bodies, needs and freedoms for heteronormative monogamy in order to prove with acts of service that we love who we care about to the point that we often burn ourselves to keep comfortable who we care about.

Romanticized sacrifices for intimacy are part of a pattern that repeats in different ways across the diverse and broad relationship spectrum of connections:

People often pursue committed emotionally intimate relationships that are monoamorous or monogamous because they desire exclusivity.

People often pursue committed emotionally intimate relationships that are polyamorous or polygamous but closed somehow because they desire fidelity instead of exclusivity.

People often pursue committed emotionally intimate relationships that are polyamorous or polygamous and open but hierarchical because they desire prioritization instead of fidelity or exclusivity.

People often pursue committed emotionally intimate relationships that are open and non-hierarchical but polyamorous or polygamous because they desire devotion instead of prioritization, fidelity or exclusivity.

People often pursue emotionally intimate relationships that are open and anarchical but committed because they desire dedication instead of devotion, prioritization, fidelity or exclusivity.

People often pursue emotionally intimate relationships that are open and anarchical because they desire care instead of dedication, devotion, prioritization, fidelity or exclusivity.

Deep down the desires for exclusivity, fidelity, loyalty, submission, prioritization, devotion, dedication or commitment there is a common need for someone to care to share their own body, energy, attention, time, money and other valuable limited natural resources with you.

I really hope that sharing this as food for thoughts helps at least someone out there to figure out what you really need in relation to relations, because is more useful to focus on figuring out and communicating openly and honestly the different types of needs that orientate us towards different types of connections, instead of focusing on label words that restrict and limit individuals and connections from changing.

What matters more is to be careful to not set up someone, including yourself, for a misunderstanding, disappointment and unfulfillment if someone can not read minds and you do not use words precisely to ask for what you need and want specifically with straightforward honest communication when negotiating informed consent to anything.

I also highly recommend taking time to define what words, like "exclusivity", "fidelity", "loyalty", "submission", "prioritization", "devotion", "dedication", "commitment", "care", "responsibility", "accountability", "consent", among others, mean specifically to each of you before giving to anything consent that really is informed, because you may find yourself surprised at the existence of as many different perspectives as different individuals exist.

You also should remind yourself that commitments alongside configurations can be contextualized and recontextualized in a customizable way so connections can be free to be as fluid as emotions can be, because everyone should always have the valid right to freely change at any moment how they approach their ways of interacting with other beings in the world around them.

That means that you should organize and structure your social life as a whole however your needs and wants orientate you, because is not possible to love consensually genuinely if you do not have the freedom to stop consenting to anything at any moment, in the sense that consent is constantly being given at every new moment each of all of us shares an experience together with someone instead of unlimited.

What do you specifically need and want about intimate connections?

I am sharing as a Public Service Announcement this post that I wrote because there should be more education out there about what are the limits of the validity of the negotiation of consent in and out of committed intimate relationships that are totally closed.

Love in any type of connection does not hurt anyone, does not matter at all whether the connection is open or closed, monoamorous or polyamorous, sexual or emotional, romantic or platonic, hetero or gay, cis or trans, hierarchical or anarchist.

What really does hurt is loving the wrong INDIVIDUALS, while there are interested individuals better compatible for any and every sort of thing out there in the world, including any and every sort of rare and complex need, want and desire that someone can value.

FAIRNESS IS EQUITY instead of equality, but love without informed AND genuine consent is a violation instead of love.

Gender variant, gay, polyamorous, aromantic, and asexual people can be united together as worthy of the constant free love fights for basic rights because they are socioculturally discriminated CONSENSUAL love minorities in ways more similar than what you may think.

You should not forget that you should always have the valid freedom of expression right to request as many answers to all sorts of questions that may appear invasive to as many indviduals you may feel is necessary for you to feel secure enough in order for you to give to anything consent that really is informed, as long as you make an effort to be respectful, but no one is necessarily obligated to reply to any of your questions.

Many people are not aware that only a first clear "yes" with enthusiasm is the only genuine consent to anything, and, therefore, is the only one that is not questionable enough to get anyone in legal trouble.

If you are about to go try something that you are not with enthusiasm to try, you are very likely not going to enjoy what you are about to experiment, even if you have an open mind to new experiences.

You should also not forget that consent to anything is not really genuine if results from constant begging, peer pressuring, outcasting, withdrawing, guilt tripping, shaming, blackmailing, threatening or any other type of manipulation not listed, and, therefore, is sexual coercion, also known as sexual abuse.

No consent should be unlimited to anything, because consent can not possibly be given genuinely to anything if you are obligated to keep consenting anyhow, so everyone should always have the valid right to freely stop consenting to anything at any moment, in the sense that consent is constantly being given at every new moment each of all of us shares an experience together with someone.

Only when is granted the freedom to be spending time anyhow anywhere else with anyone else at any time can anyone consent to love someone genuinely instead of out of obligation due to commitment to restrictive and limiting promises.

I really hope that sharing this helps at least someone out there.

I was wondering if anyone else feels that their t4t relationships in their polycule feel different than their relationships with cis people in the polycule. Not better, just different. I recently got into my first t4t relationship and the sense of understanding and comfort is so intense. I'm not sure how much of it is NRE and how much of it is just clicking due to our shared experience of transness, but either way it is amazing

Short video by the Chinese teacher called Linglong ("@linglongmandarin") at the "YouTube" channel named "Linglong Mandarin Chinese".

Me and my pals built together three mostly Safe For Work, mixed and inclusive subreddit communities for everything centered on adult women and gender variant people after our totally private and inclusive group chat room grew so big that we had to build a subreddit community.

We currently have more than 1100 member users in our older subreddit community called r/GalsAndPals that we built because of popular demand as a mostly Safe For Work and inclusive subreddit community for everything centered on ADULT people who at least partly somehow identify with unconventional womanhood.

We currently also have more than 50 member users in our younger subreddit community called r/DollsAndPals that we are also building because of popular demand as a mostly Safe For Work and inclusive subreddit community for everything centered on ADULT people who at least partly somehow identify with conventional womanhood.

We also currently have more than 190 member users in our subreddit community called r/GuysAndPals that we are also building because of popular demand as a mostly Safe For Work and inclusive subreddit community for everything centered on ADULT people who at least partly somehow identify with unconventional manhood.

We do have some basic respect safety guideline expectations written in the rules page section of our subreddit communities to help sustain the health of our groups as inclusive safer spaces free of judgement and harm that you should read.

We are inclusive of transy, transbianish, transfeminine, transandrogynous, transmasculine, detrans, retrans, genderfluid, and genderqueer adult people.

Our subreddits are currently temporarily somewhat restricted for being in an experimental early development stage until becoming more accessible, public and welcoming after a time when we are more prepared enough to deal with more diverse types of visitors having access to our place.

If you may be feeling interested in joining, just drop a comment here below or send a moderator mail message to have access to one or all of our subreddits or if you want support to create another group.

We are always open to answering questions and clearing doubts.

I entered my first polyam relationship in August of 2023 and it's just felt so right and good, I now have 3 wonderful partners and a big web of a polycule and I'm so glad I realized this was right for me. I cannot properly express how genuinely incredible each of my partners are and how lucky I am to be in this position. <3