r/programmingmemes 17d ago

writingHelloWorldWithoutAllTheGear

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u/Willing_Parsley_2182 17d ago

3 arguments made there, you focussed on one which was a minority point, then basically reversed your whole narrative in the last paragraph…

Whatever, you have a weird obsession with Python for arbitrary reasons. Nothing I’ve said has been meaningfully challenged.

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u/Obmanuti 17d ago

Because it feels like Im arguing with an intern. If you cant see how pythons library dependence is meaningfully different. Im not going to convince you. If you cant see how theres a difference between building on top of a language i.e. C++ using C or the Java compiler using C vs importing a C library that python can then run, theres nothing I can say to convince you.

You contend that python does the job in most cases. Maybe thats true for you. And if so, great! Im glad you found a language that meets your needs.

The vast majority of the software engineering world is not so lucky. For some, if not most, performance matters, organization matters, type safety matters, compute cost matters. Most senior devs that I know would not build an enterprise application on python. If you would, I wish you the best.

My narrative hasn't changed at all, Java as verbose as it is, has persisted for a reason. Python has become popular for a reason. These memes are stupid, and drastically oversimplify the comparison.

My error here is engaging in good faith and assuming you would do the same. You want to be right, youre not interested in being correct.

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u/Willing_Parsley_2182 17d ago edited 17d ago

Read the actual words that have been written. Original commenter: “without imports Python bad”. Me: “That’s meaningless as it does have imports”. You: “Akshually…”

You’re having an argument with yourself. Nobody criticised Java. On performance, you’re rehashing what I said (that I’d use C++ over Python if I needed performance).

You’ve not entered any new information, meaningfully challenged any of the assertions, and you’ve misconstrued what has been said.

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u/Obmanuti 17d ago

Cool 👍 Good luck in your endeavors regardless of the language they use!