r/oxford 2d ago

Best internet provider in Folly bridge?

I'm about to move to the Folly Bridge area (OX1) and looking for internet provider recommendations.

My last place had Virgin Media but they don't offer full fibre speeds in the city centre. It seems no one offers fiber in the city center??

I work from home and do a lot of video calls, so I need at least 70 Mbps

5 Upvotes

22 comments sorted by

2

u/badb0y_bubby 2d ago

Trust me you'll want "You Fiber" over 500 megabytes a second download speed and the same for upload speed....

2

u/PuzzleheadedAmoeba77 2d ago

they dont cover the area

3

u/anditails 2d ago

Then you've precisely pointed out the issue.

Look up your postcode and see what's available.

BT's OpenReach infrastructure in Oxford is crap, so little to no full fibre in the city. Virgin Media is in most streets, so surprised you say it isn't.

And YouFibre is by far the best, but is essentially "per street" so if you don't have it, and you don't see bundled loops hanging from the telegraph poles, you'll likely not get it for a while.

What does it say here: https://checker.ofcom.org.uk/en-gb/broadband-coverage

2

u/PuzzleheadedAmoeba77 2d ago

My options are

Vodafone Zen Ee BT Fibre

But they all use the same infrastructure (FTTC) and their are no speed guarantees (64Mbps max).

I work from home so im trying to find solutions lol it doesnt look good

1

u/Zr0w3n00 2d ago

If those are your options then those are your options.

I fear I sound harsh, but not sure how to word it more kindly. If you absolutely need 70 down, did you not check before you signed your rental agreement/mortgage?

2

u/PuzzleheadedAmoeba77 2d ago edited 2d ago

Luckily its just a rental agreement

But Ive never thought about checking connectivity before moving actually.. since i am currently further from the city center and have fiber so i assumed city center is already connected, but i was wrong

Anw its good thing to check before moving, thanks!

1

u/anditails 2d ago

Then your only option is 5G, of which you'll most likely be best on O2 or find another place to live (and check the broadband first!).

But far from ideal...

Time to get in the office 😀

I am jesting, but does seem like you're a bit stuck and perhaps moving to a property which isn't ideal for WFH..

1

u/PuzzleheadedAmoeba77 2d ago

Time to get an office indeed !

2

u/Lethbridge_Stewart 2d ago

As others have said, if you can get FTTP, then get FTTP. Since that doesn't seem to be an option (it's worth registering an interest as this does inform their priorities), then you're stuck with FTTC. As a plus, St Ebbe's and Folly Bridge are very close to the main exchange, so service should be reasonably solid and you'll likely get genuinely close to the max speeds shown, provided there are no weird internal issues with your copper wiring.

From what you've listed, I'm guessing it's all just Openreach FTTC. At this point, there's very little to separate the providers on downstream throughput alone and most of them cost within a few £/month of each other. Customer service and wi-fi are the checkpoints.

  • On a CS front, steer clear of EE - they don't give a shit. (From third party reports I'd say the same about any of the mobile providers and Sky, though I've not used them myself.). Zen have been pretty good on this front and still make it easier to reach a human. BT are slow but they are at least consistent and don't tend to occasionally forget you even contacted them. Because it's FTTC you can shop around a lot, though. Almost any ISP can provide services over Openreach FTTC. I'm sure you can get more than just those 4 you mention.
  • Working from home covers a lot of use cases. I work in IT and I've been more than happy with 55mbps, which covers video calls and the few downloads I needed to do. If you do lots of big downloads or stream lots of video in parallel then perhaps this won't be enough, but it's more than enough to use remote desktop on a machine in the office (if that's a supported thing)
  • Is it a big place? How much time and skill can you spare to install your own wi-fi? If not much, the quality of the access point/router may be more of a factor here than the connection speed. BT and Zen both provide decentish routers. Get something that provides wifi 6E or 7 (specifically with 6GHz if you can, even if it's a premium. The spectrum there is much wider and clearer right now. This will matter a lot if you're in a block of flats and will likely be the biggest factor in your overall experience)
  • How reliable do you need the connection to be? Consider a second, backup option, either 5G with a decent antenna or Starlink. These will have lower throughput and higher latency, but if you can't afford the connection to fail, you might need them. Maybe your work can cover some of this cost if so?

The other possible option is Virgin cable. No idea if they cover the area, but they do have really good speeds for decent money. Their CS does sucks, but their connection IME is really stable so you rarely need to talk to them.

2

u/Lethbridge_Stewart 2d ago

Addendum: If it is Openreach in your area, then any of the providers listed here: https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/fttc-providers#accordion-e41d704d3f-item-c0ed7d2e3b should be able to serve you. As a rule of thumb, I tend to point people at dedicated ISPs such as Zen and Plusnet rather than the more recognisable brands that do it as an offshoot of their phone and TV offerings.

AAISP are the gold standard for geeks - but they do charge a premium and tend to have usage caps, so likely only worth considering if you have specific needs like fixed IPs and totally unfiltered connectivity.

1

u/PuzzleheadedAmoeba77 2d ago

Thank you so much this is very helpful (and technical)

You are right, the use cases are broad i will only use it for video calls / file uploads/downloads but might have two people on video calls at the same time, I probably am overestimating my needs?

ts a 2 bedrooms flat. Might be worth building my own network but will have to do some research

Vodafone +Pro has a backup 4G option to guarantee wifi, is this useful or just for marketing ? Otherwise i think im going with Zen it seems the best value for money. Thanks!

1

u/Lethbridge_Stewart 2d ago

A typical video call uses about 6-8mbps, so any FTTC option should easily cover 2 or 3 in parallel so long as you're not also watching netflix and downloading a video game at the same time. (You are at work, right? 😃). You might have to be careful with large downloads while on calls, but usually it's fine.

4G backup can be useful, certainly. It'll maintain a connection in the generally unlikely even that your main one goes down (and it's easy to run since they do all the failover stuff inside the router). How good it is very much depends on your signal, which is not good on the whole in the centre, but can also be highly sensitive to your specific location. If they provide a separate antenna that you can mount separately form your main router, it'll help you find a solid connection. With 4G I tend to tell people not to _expect_ more than 10-20mbps. It can be a a lot more. Video calls will be passable with that but 4G is more jittery (wider variations in latency) so the quality won't be as good - but hey it's a backup...

2-bed flat should be fine with a single router for wi-fi, so long as you can position it reasonably centrally and your party walls aren't foot-thick concrete 😃 - Biggest issue with wifi in flats is contention with other tenants. They all have to share the same channels to an extent and no ISP will be better than any other here (there's no magic solution to this problem, whatever the marketing says, but 6GHz if it's provided should be considered a major plus point)

1

u/Zr0w3n00 2d ago

I’m sure you’ll find something, but I’ll temper your expectations by saying Oxford city centre is hard to cover from a provider’s POV, old expensive stuff you have to pull up; Nowhere easy to put infrastructure like boxes, and with the council introducing charges for companies that do roadworks, it’s not likely to speed up.

0

u/PuzzleheadedAmoeba77 2d ago

I am trying to find solutions as i work from home and i need the speed What do professionals or people who dont have eduroam access do?

-1

u/anudeglory 2d ago

The Oxford Telephone Exchange is about 300m from Folly Bridge...

1

u/anudeglory 2d ago

I have FTTP in OX1 and am with Sky.

1

u/PuzzleheadedAmoeba77 2d ago

Is it good ?

1

u/anudeglory 2d ago

from speedtest.net

Download Mbps 151.02

Upload Mbps 28.55

Not had any issues...

2

u/PuzzleheadedAmoeba77 2d ago

Awesome thanks for the reassurance !

1

u/adamjzed 2d ago

I live in OX1 and also can’t get fibre to our door so max out at 70 as well. The good news is they’re scoping out fibre at the minute to be installed in the next several months (hopefully). Depending on where exactly you live, your specific timeline may vary but generally they’re deprecating copper lines.

1

u/FlakeyBeano 1d ago

There's no proper fttp in that area. You can still get g.fast from a niche provider

https://www.cerberusnetworks.co.uk/connectivity/broadband/sogfast

Ymmv

1

u/strormpilot 1d ago

Youfibre works in OX1 at least some of it