r/norsk • u/dwchandler • Aug 12 '18

Søndagsspørsmål #240 - Sunday Question Thread

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u/Rpg_gamer_ Aug 15 '18

Could anyone tell me why "seg" sounds like "sheh" in this clip (in "og koser seg")? And is this something that would be done with the other words like it (meg, deg, jeg)?

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u/Rpg_gamer_ Aug 15 '18 edited Aug 15 '18

I've heard of the rs before, but only in the middle of words so I didn't recognize it, thank you :)

The d, l, n, and t I've never heard of though. Do you mean that since r is retroflex and further back (more on the palate), they got lazy and decided to pronounce those consonants while the tongue is still in that position? So it's a retroflex r transitioning into a retroflexive, further back version of those consonants?

edit: Like, I've heard rs described as "sh", but I generally hear the "r" before as well, so it is a transition and not just the following retroflex consonant replacing both sounds, right?

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u/Rpg_gamer_ Aug 16 '18

Ohh... Sorry to ask so many questions, but isn't an alveolar tap sort of retroflex? I've been pronouncing it with my tongue bent back, with the tip pointing above the alveolar ridge and then coming down and hitting against it. Since the motion is a sort of "unbending", I'm hitting it with the very tip of the back of my tongue. Should I be aiming for the actual tip to hit instead? It has less of a trill that way.