r/mycology • u/DegreeDue2353 • 11h ago
ID request what is this? also are these safe to consume? there's a TON of this near my neighbor's cows
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u/Witty_Result175 9h ago
It's best to start off by assuming it's not edible, as the vast majority of mushrooms aren't. By a lot.
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u/jimthewanderer 8h ago
The vast majority are edible but pointless.
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u/wellrat 5h ago
Just like people
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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 2h ago edited 2h ago
that vast majority of mushrooms are non-toxic, basically like 85%. I don’t know what percentage of non-toxic mushrooms are substantially edible though
maybe this is what you meant, but your comment might confuse people and have them thinking that you mean that most mushrooms are toxic, which would be the opposite of the truth
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u/ImpressivePromise187 10h ago
Why would you want to consume that? Probably Parasola. Definitely a coprinoid
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u/DegreeDue2353 8h ago
it's not that i'm gonna eat it, we take care of those roaming cows, bc there's plenty times our own goats died and there's not a single trace of sickness of anything, sorry for the misunderstanding i'm not that good in english
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u/Ginnigan 6h ago
Your English is great, and your question was pretty clear :) I think this commenter just skipped over the part about cows.
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u/jimthewanderer 8h ago edited 7h ago
It's good that you take care of the girls, but I would encourage you to try and lay aside Anxiety as a motivator, and substitute in curiousity. Less stress for you, and it will turn your patrols into an informative learning experience, and make you more informed about potential threats to the cows, and learn you a thing or two about the health of the land.
If you find any new little weirdos, do share them with the class. If you were in England I'd be pretty confident you've got a Parasola (Genus), but not enough information for species. I'm not aware of any common lookalikes to this that are actively harmful.
Cows are remarkably good at avoiding plants and things they can't eat, and most field mushrooms this size are in the 'edible but pointless', or inedible but bot actually poisonous categories.
The horror stories generally come from Hay, where a meadow mown for feed has ragwort or another toxic plant jumbled in, which Dobbin scarfs down, unable to distinguish from the grasses, and his liver dribbles out his nose. Or where cattle have insufficient forage and get desperate.
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u/Sciencetor2 6h ago
That's not even remotely true. You have to curate the fields you graze cattle on very carefully because if they get into one with too much clover, alfalfa, or any other high protein greens they'll explode
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u/LinkGoesHIYAAA 5h ago
On one hand i want to see what an exploding cow looks like. On the other hand i very much don’t.
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u/Half_Halt 4h ago
Explode?
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u/Sciencetor2 4h ago
Their stomachs swell up and potentially rupture. They convert protein to methane faster than they can expel it, so you have to feed them low protein by percentage.
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u/Half_Halt 3h ago
Eh, sort of. While bloat theoretically can cause the rumen to rupture; it's the pressure of the bloated rumen on the cow's lungs & heart we're more concerned about.
It's also more complicated than too much clover in a field. Believe me, no one wants to hear me delve jnto the finer points of my grazing management plan for our herd. Clover isn't poisonous, either, and I don't want people to get into the weeds on it when the OP was asking for advice on IDing a potentially poisonous fungus.
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u/jimthewanderer 2h ago
Where did I say "don't curate fields?"
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u/Sciencetor2 2h ago
Where you said "cows are good at avoiding things they can't eat". They aren't. You gotta put them in a field without things they can't eat.
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u/jimthewanderer 2h ago
There's a difference between "shouldn't eat in large quantities" and "will kill them".
Herbivores are perfectly capable of avoiding things they are familiar with that will kill them dead. Generally speaking it's weird shit (i.e. introduced and invasive species) they don't recognise as toxic. You still need to walk the land and get rid of things, and be selective about what fields they're in and for how long for dietary reasons.
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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 2h ago
aren’t cows an introduced species in the vast majority of locations they’re grazing at? and aren’t cows in general a species bred for specific traits? cows don’t “recognize” anything as toxic — they will have genes that lead to them avoiding toxic plants etc, but this would only apply to the region cows are actually from, and would also probably only apply to wild cows that haven’t been genetically messed with by humans. so basically nothing you’re saying is applicable at all, with Sciencetor2’s comment making much more sense
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u/Half_Halt 1m ago
They're not dumb, believe it or not. Hundreds of years of evolution are not required. They manage just fine. Even horses -- who are constantly searching for new & more spectacular ways to off themselves -- mostly manage to avoid eating crap that is poisonous.
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u/CarryMeNerd 6h ago
never cared for livestock eh?
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u/jimthewanderer 2h ago
Didn't actually read my comment and assumed it said something it didn't eh?
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u/irl_cakedays 10h ago
Probably just asking to make sure they're safe for the cows?
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u/jimthewanderer 7h ago
Agreed Parasola.
So not a threat to the cows generally speaking, firmly in the "this genus contains species which are edible but pointless, so not scary, but not worth learning in detail unless you're a massive nerd" bucket.
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u/32FlavorsofCrazy 5h ago
Cattle will generally avoid eating toxic mushrooms as long as there’s plenty of grass/hay around. There’s a few concerning species for cattle but I don’t think that’s one of them, Amanitas, coral mushrooms and false parasols are definitely toxic to cattle but they’re usually not inclined to eat them. Unless the cattle are showing symptoms of poisoning I wouldn’t worry about it.
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u/Muavius 3h ago
I get these in my terrarium! They pop up, grow, and then melt into black mush in the span of about 6 hours. My cleanup crews LOVE them.
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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 2h ago
your mushrooms are likely not the same as OP’s
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u/Muavius 1h ago
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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 10m ago
I see cap velum so definitely not Parasola sp.; probably is Coprinellus sp.
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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 2h ago
Psathyrellaceae, either Parasola sp. or Coprinellus section Curti
because of habitat I want to go with the former
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u/ManualBookworm 9h ago
Don't eat anything you're not 100% sure about yourself.
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u/gnomi_malone 8h ago
you may want to put this in the caption so you don’t have to keep repeating it in the comments! looking out for your goats makes sense but the first thing people in this sub will tell you is “don’t eat mushrooms you don’t recognize!” it also helps to add your location
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u/atTheRealMrKuntz 10h ago
coprinellus disseminatus?
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u/jimthewanderer 8h ago
What makes you think that?
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u/atTheRealMrKuntz 6h ago
it looks like it, and OP mentioned a big amount of them. Also I put it as a question, meaning i'm not sure but I feel it's worth it to compare
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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 1h ago
if the mushroom was fruiting highly caespitose then yes that would be a matching feature, but OP likely means simply that there are a lot of these in the grass



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