r/mycology 11h ago

ID request what is this? also are these safe to consume? there's a TON of this near my neighbor's cows

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u/green-bean- 5h ago

Looks like a pleated inkcap

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u/Witty_Result175 9h ago

It's best to start off by assuming it's not edible, as the vast majority of mushrooms aren't. By a lot.

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u/dinnerthief 2h ago

Vast majority are not poisonous, they just arent very tasty either

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u/jimthewanderer 8h ago

The vast majority are edible but pointless.

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u/wellrat 5h ago

Just like people

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u/claire_goolihey 2h ago

oh that is goin' on a t-shirt! 5*, no notes.

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u/HairyPoppins-2033 59m ago

You cannibals

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u/babajennyandy 7h ago

Until you find out there are way more deathly plants then mushrooms.

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u/Witty_Result175 7h ago

True. Let's not make a habit of assuming they're edible, either.

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u/Wild_Wrap_9360 4h ago

That’s the reasoning of a forager who doesn’t fear eternal pants shitting

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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 2h ago edited 2h ago

that vast majority of mushrooms are non-toxic, basically like 85%. I don’t know what percentage of non-toxic mushrooms are substantially edible though

maybe this is what you meant, but your comment might confuse people and have them thinking that you mean that most mushrooms are toxic, which would be the opposite of the truth

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u/ImpressivePromise187 10h ago

Why would you want to consume that? Probably Parasola. Definitely a coprinoid

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u/DegreeDue2353 8h ago

it's not that i'm gonna eat it, we take care of those roaming cows, bc there's plenty times our own goats died and there's not a single trace of sickness of anything, sorry for the misunderstanding i'm not that good in english

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u/Ginnigan 6h ago

Your English is great, and your question was pretty clear :) I think this commenter just skipped over the part about cows.

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u/jimthewanderer 8h ago edited 7h ago

It's good that you take care of the girls, but I would encourage you to try and lay aside Anxiety as a motivator, and substitute in curiousity. Less stress for you, and it will turn your patrols into an informative learning experience, and make you more informed about potential threats to the cows, and learn you a thing or two about the health of the land. 

If you find any new little weirdos, do share them with the class. If you were in England I'd be pretty confident you've got a Parasola (Genus), but not enough information for species. I'm not aware of any common lookalikes to this that are actively harmful.

Cows are remarkably good at avoiding plants and things they can't eat, and most field mushrooms this size are in the 'edible but pointless', or inedible but bot actually poisonous categories.

The horror stories generally come from Hay, where a meadow mown for feed has ragwort or another toxic plant jumbled in, which Dobbin scarfs down, unable to distinguish from the grasses, and his liver dribbles out his nose. Or where cattle have insufficient forage and get desperate.

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u/Sciencetor2 6h ago

That's not even remotely true. You have to curate the fields you graze cattle on very carefully because if they get into one with too much clover, alfalfa, or any other high protein greens they'll explode

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u/LinkGoesHIYAAA 5h ago

On one hand i want to see what an exploding cow looks like. On the other hand i very much don’t.

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u/ryaca 4h ago

Literally - they can’t process all the gas. You have to stick a hose down their throats to relieve the pressure.

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u/Half_Halt 4h ago

Explode?

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u/Sciencetor2 4h ago

Their stomachs swell up and potentially rupture. They convert protein to methane faster than they can expel it, so you have to feed them low protein by percentage.

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u/Half_Halt 3h ago

Eh, sort of. While bloat theoretically can cause the rumen to rupture; it's the pressure of the bloated rumen on the cow's lungs & heart we're more concerned about.

It's also more complicated than too much clover in a field. Believe me, no one wants to hear me delve jnto the finer points of my grazing management plan for our herd. Clover isn't poisonous, either, and I don't want people to get into the weeds on it when the OP was asking for advice on IDing a potentially poisonous fungus.

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u/jimthewanderer 2h ago

Where did I say "don't curate fields?"

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u/Sciencetor2 2h ago

Where you said "cows are good at avoiding things they can't eat". They aren't. You gotta put them in a field without things they can't eat.

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u/jimthewanderer 2h ago

There's a difference between "shouldn't eat in large quantities" and "will kill them".

Herbivores are perfectly capable of avoiding things they are familiar with that will kill them dead. Generally speaking it's weird shit (i.e. introduced and invasive species) they don't recognise as toxic. You still need to walk the land and get rid of things, and be selective about what fields they're in and for how long for dietary reasons.

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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 2h ago

aren’t cows an introduced species in the vast majority of locations they’re grazing at? and aren’t cows in general a species bred for specific traits? cows don’t “recognize” anything as toxic — they will have genes that lead to them avoiding toxic plants etc, but this would only apply to the region cows are actually from, and would also probably only apply to wild cows that haven’t been genetically messed with by humans. so basically nothing you’re saying is applicable at all, with Sciencetor2’s comment making much more sense

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u/Half_Halt 1m ago

They're not dumb, believe it or not. Hundreds of years of evolution are not required. They manage just fine. Even horses -- who are constantly searching for new & more spectacular ways to off themselves -- mostly manage to avoid eating crap that is poisonous.

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u/CarryMeNerd 6h ago

never cared for livestock eh?

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u/jimthewanderer 2h ago

Didn't actually read my comment and assumed it said something it didn't eh?

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u/CarryMeNerd 2h ago

no no I did. and correctly deduced you’re not very smart.

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u/irl_cakedays 10h ago

Probably just asking to make sure they're safe for the cows?

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u/ImpressivePromise187 10h ago

That’s possible. Weird phrasing if it’s the case though

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u/Lolcoles 1h ago

I understood it that way immediately

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u/jimthewanderer 7h ago

Agreed Parasola.

So not a threat to the cows generally speaking, firmly in the "this genus contains species which are edible but pointless, so not scary, but not worth learning in detail unless you're a massive nerd" bucket.

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u/Tall_Apricot_9842 6h ago

probably want a location/climate

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u/a_shootin_star 2h ago

Philippines

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u/32FlavorsofCrazy 5h ago

Cattle will generally avoid eating toxic mushrooms as long as there’s plenty of grass/hay around. There’s a few concerning species for cattle but I don’t think that’s one of them, Amanitas, coral mushrooms and false parasols are definitely toxic to cattle but they’re usually not inclined to eat them. Unless the cattle are showing symptoms of poisoning I wouldn’t worry about it.

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u/Muavius 3h ago

I get these in my terrarium! They pop up, grow, and then melt into black mush in the span of about 6 hours. My cleanup crews LOVE them.

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u/RomanyX 3h ago

Please don’t take offense, I’m genuinely curious: are your “cleanup crews” some kind of critters living in the terrarium, or literal human cleaners? If it’s the latter, how big is your terrarium? 😳

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u/Muavius 3h ago

Isopods, springtails, and some mites. The mushrooms are prolific in a 60gallon long tank. The springtails go NUTS over the mushrooms

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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 2h ago

your mushrooms are likely not the same as OP’s

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u/Muavius 1h ago

Will get a better Pic if I can catch one more opened up before it melts. They dont last long

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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 10m ago

I see cap velum so definitely not Parasola sp.; probably is Coprinellus sp.

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u/gaydognova 3h ago

Inkcap!

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u/dutch89 3h ago

It looks to be a sort of ink cap, im not aware of any being dangerous to livestock but i dont know that definitively

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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 2h ago

Psathyrellaceae, either Parasola sp. or Coprinellus section Curti

because of habitat I want to go with the former

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u/da-happy-cyclops 2h ago

Unless they have a bendy stipe and a gelatinous pellicle, am I right?

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u/ManualBookworm 9h ago

Don't eat anything you're not 100% sure about yourself.

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u/gnomi_malone 8h ago

you may want to put this in the caption so you don’t have to keep repeating it in the comments! looking out for your goats makes sense but the first thing people in this sub will tell you is “don’t eat mushrooms you don’t recognize!” it also helps to add your location

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u/atTheRealMrKuntz 10h ago

coprinellus disseminatus?

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u/jimthewanderer 8h ago

What makes you think that?

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u/atTheRealMrKuntz 6h ago

it looks like it, and OP mentioned a big amount of them. Also I put it as a question, meaning i'm not sure but I feel it's worth it to compare

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u/RdCrestdBreegull Trusted ID - California 1h ago

if the mushroom was fruiting highly caespitose then yes that would be a matching feature, but OP likely means simply that there are a lot of these in the grass