Graham Platner’s Wife Flagged Sexually Explicit Texts to His Senate Campaign

[u/TheWyldMan]

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/graham-platners-wife-flagged-sexually-explicit-texts-to-his-senate-campaign-628ec832?mod=e2tw

[u/Hour-Ad-9508]

I’m a Democrat and pretty outraged that people are hand waving a Nazi SS tattoo.

You can think the president is bad while also recognizing something else is bad

[u/Interesting_Total_98 → u/Hour-Ad-9508]

Nobody is handwaving the tattoo, or else he wouldn't have had to cover it.

You don't realize that people can acknowledge that something is bad while also thinking of context.

A question I've asked multiple times that's never been answered is that he's so proud of being neo-Nazi that he'd knowingly wear a supposedly famous Nazi tattoo, why has no one found anything that's even remotely similar to Nazi rhetoric from him?

[u/Hour-Ad-9508 → u/Interesting_Total_98]

I don’t think he’s a Nazi, I think he has incredibly poor judgment and a lack of maturity. Both qualities I don’t find suitable for being a U.S. senator (or, yes, president)

[u/Interesting_Total_98 → u/Hour-Ad-9508]

Being unaware of what an obscure symbol means and later correcting it doesn't establish that.

[u/Hour-Ad-9508 → u/Interesting_Total_98]

“Nobody is hand waving the tattoo”

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“An obscure symbol”

LOL it was insignia of the Nazi SS! It’s on every “Nazi” uniform in media from the “are we the baddies?” sketch to Inglorious Basterds. He is a self described history buff and his campaign manager said he knew what it was

It was prominently on his body for almost 20 years. Again, someone who wants to be a senator that lacks the intellectual curiosity to figure out what they permanently put on their body is not a good candidate.

[u/Interesting_Total_98 → u/Hour-Ad-9508]

You still haven't answered my question.

If he's so proud of being neo-Nazi that he'd knowingly wear a supposedly famous Nazi tattoo, why has no one found anything that's even remotely similar to Nazi rhetoric from him?

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“An obscure symbol”

LOL

You apparently don't understand what "handwaving" means, since me stating a fact isn't an example. He wouldn't have covered up the tattoo if him and others thought it was fine.

it was insignia of the Nazi SS

You failed to explain how that automatically mean it's well-known. It was obscure enough that there was never any controversy over it until last October, despite his military service and the ban on hate symbols.

It’s on every “Nazi” uniform in media from the “are we the baddies?” sketch to Inglorious Basterds

Most people haven't seen either.

self described history buff

That's extremely broad. I've watched and read a lot about history without ever learning how exactly the SS skull looked like.

his campaign manager

She didn't claim to have discovered that, let alone show evidence.

The implication is that she confidently assumes it to be true like you are, or else she should be clearer and say something like "I heard him admit it."

lacks the intellectual curiosity to figure out what they permanently put on their body

It's a skull, so it makes sense that they didn't think it had deeper meaning.

[u/Hour-Ad-9508 → u/Interesting_Total_98]

You clearly aren’t even reading what I’m saying. I don’t think he’s a Nazi, nor do I think he’s proud of it. I think he has incredibly poor judgment and a lack of intellectual curiosity that led to him leaving it on his body for almost 2 decades, despite knowing what it was (according to his former campaign manager).

I do understand what hand waving is, you’re purposefully obfuscating the situation to try to justify it. Calling it an obscure symbol is pure nonsense.

Were you in the military? He was already in, doctors aren’t screening him for tattoos continuously throughout his service.

Inglorious Basterds made $350 million, why are you acting like it’s some small time movie? I would expect a history buff, as he describes himself, to have seen it.

Again, you’re doing absolutely everything to excuse it but I know you know that deep down having a Nazi tattoo for almost 20 years, whether you are dumb enough to not know what you permanently put on your body, should not be who is representing the United States. This shouldn’t be controversial.

[u/Interesting_Total_98 → u/Hour-Ad-9508]

I know you know that deep down

A common theme in your replies is you acting like your perspective is universal. "It's obvious to me, so it should've been obvious to him." "I think this is disqualifying, so everyone must think the same thing."

Your argument includes the absurd claim that his tattoo would go unnoticed in the military, so it's perfectly reasonable to not take it seriously.

Were you in the military?

Yes.

doctors aren’t screening him for tattoos continuously throughout his service.

He got it during Marine service and later joined the Army National Guard and served in Afghanistan while having the tattoo from the start.

It's virtually impossible that no one saw him without a shirt on.

why are you acting like it’s some small time movie

You clearly failed to read what I said, which is that most Americans didn't go see it.

Being interested in history doesn't mean seeing every single successful historical movie.

history buff, as he describes himself

He hasn't been doing that. The claim comes from the same former political director you cited.

lack of intellectual curiosity that led to him

Again, it's a skull. You neglected to address the fact that this is a very generic type of tattoo. It's unsurprising that he didn't think there was a deep meaning to it.

This specific one represents something abhorrent, but it was obscure enough for it not to cause him problems until recently.