r/lebanon • u/accu-trading • 13h ago
Discussion الجيش اللبناني ينتشر على مداخل ضاحية بيروت الجنوبية لتنظيم حركة النزوح
w hayda l jesh l 3azim taba3na sar valet parking w shorte ser badal ma yfout 3al da7ye w ynadefa men l sleh w zo3ran l hezb 3afekkk
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u/throwawaynomade 12h ago
You can't have a proper military without a proper economy.
You can't have a proper economy with a state without a monopoly on violence + monopoly on foreign relations.
Hezbollah and its supporters have been robbing us from having a proper state and military, then they unilaterally start a war and use a circular logic on why they need to have weapons. Unfortunately low IQ and lack of critical thinking is destroying the country.
And fuck Israel على صحة السلامة
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u/InfernoBA 4h ago
As an outsider, I truly don’t understand . . . do Lebanese Shia people just have zero faith in the official government? They’re fine with indefinitely maintaining this separate/parallel power structure in Hezbollah, which basically guarantees that Lebanon as a state will never reach its full potential or be taken seriously on the international stage?
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u/throwawaynomade 3h ago
There is a lot of historical context:
- Shia were historically disadvantaged and their political role was initially absorbed by Sunnis
- The state left them to fend for themselves first during the PLO occupation and then during Israeli occupation
- Hezbollah and Amal gave them political and military power and they are credited to have freed the south from Hezbollah
- Hezbollah managed to basically build a parallel state, not just militarily. Virtually all Shia families have ties to Hezbollah and its institutions, medical, financial, military, so it's hard to untangle the Shia from Hezbollah.
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u/Ben_C17 11h ago
Under the November ceasefire, the Lebanese Army was supposed to deploy to the south and gradually take positions as the IDF withdrew, then ensure Hezbollah infrastructure south of the Litani stayed dismantled. We've been tracking the implementation on panopsik.com, and what's actually happened is the army set up checkpoints on main roads while avoiding any direct confrontation with Hezbollah positions or weapons. They're directing traffic for displaced people returning, which is what this post is describing for the southern suburbs.
The difference between what the agreement says on paper and what the army can actually enforce without triggering a domestic confrontation is the whole problem. They don't have the capability or the political backing to disarm Hezbollah, so they're doing the parts that don't require force: traffic control, visible presence on highways. It's not surprising, but it does make the ceasefire terms look increasingly theoretical.
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u/sombreboi 13h ago
3ate sle7 w masare lal jesh bifuto by3mlo hek.
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u/ILikeSaintJoseph Lebanese Diaspora 12h ago
You need the political and societal will to accept people on both sides may get injured or die from such operations
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u/accu-trading 9h ago
ma bada nawawe ta yfout l jesh 3al da7ye mesh hal2ad bada, bada arar siyese w mas2oulin you3o shway
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u/Old-Mushroom3525 8h ago
I understand your concerns, but I think it’s important to recognize that the Lebanese army is not simply a passive actor. They’re constrained politically and operationally, and if Hezbollah withdrew, the army simply couldn’t fill that gap right now. Historically, attempts to displace Hezbollah have failed, especially given the army’s limited resources since the French mandate era. Right now, they are trying to maintain a fragile peace, not escalate the situation.
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u/ShahataBender Lebanese 13h ago
You’re figuring this out now? The only time I’ve seen the army do anything was the thawra days and it was on the people…