r/lebanon • u/Standard_Ad7704 Beyrouth • Apr 09 '26
News Articles Netanyahu: Israel wants to start peace talks with Lebanon 'as soon as possible'
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-israel-wants-start-peace-talks-with-lebanon-as-soon-possible-2026-04-09/18
u/gonna-see-riverman Apr 09 '26
"Peace" talks one day after carrying out the bloodiest massacre against innocent civilians in decades? STFU
I'm not a believer, but if there was a devil, that's what it would look like. No good comes from a deal with the devil, if folk stories ever taught us anything, no matter how desperate the person was before such a deal, they always ended up regretting it.
IMHO the only true resolution is a comprehensive regional peace akin to the Beirut peace initiative of the 2000s, instead of letting them divide and conquer. But THEY will need to elect someone who is willing to seek out such peace, not this fuckface.
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u/Krusader_03 Non - Lebanese Apr 09 '26
From an outsider I think this is a good thing even tho I would not trust this piece of shit. This is basically making a deal with Hitler but I know Lebanon has no other choice than dealing with Israel. Sadly, you guys will have to deal with the worst Israel possible.
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u/RyanH090 Summers here are the best Apr 09 '26
Let me be the representative, I know how to talk to the Big Yahu
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u/Ok_Bonus3772 Apr 09 '26
Going a little far with Hitler comparison, the German didn’t wait until Poland invaded.
Jordan and Egypt now live at peace with Israel, with no shots fired at each other since 1967. That is 59 years of peace.
Saudi never declared war on Israel - the two countries have never fired on each other.
There is no structural reason Israel and Lebanon should be any different than Israel and Jordan.
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u/Krusader_03 Non - Lebanese Apr 09 '26
Jordan and Egypt now live at peace with Israel, with no shots fired at each other since 1967. That is 59 years of peace.
I mean, yes you're right but these two countries made peace with Israel during total different times.
Egypt made peace with Israel because after Yom Kippur Israel and Egypt were both at stake. Israel didn't get to Cairo and Egypt didn't get Sinai back. In addition, this happened during Cold war era and the US wanted to turn Egypt into an ally (mainly because of Suez). So Carter pressured Israel to find a deal with Egypt and the US guarneteed for both. This is how Camp David happened. But it's a Cold Peace, egyptians rarely or never go to Israel and Israelis only go to Sinai. Both countries cooperate to defeat terrorism in Sinai. Fun fact, Egypt warned Israel about Oct 7th but Netanyahu... you know.... did Netanyahu's things.
Jordan is again another thing, Hussein didn't want the war to go on and wanted the US full support, Rabin on the Israeli side was a true peace seeker. But that's just a paper. If the Hashemite lost control of Jordan the whole country would try to invade Israel, Jordan is a potential enemy for Israel.
The big problem here is the US. The treaty between Egypt and Israel was mediated by the US and so was the one with Jordan.
Today's United States doesn't even know what the word diplomacy is. A peace treaty between Lebanon and Israel could and should be mediated by the US but the US is currently run by Trump who's not different from Netanyahu, if not even worse since Netanyahu can actually speak.
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u/ringtail_catz Apr 09 '26
Egypt and Jordan don’t host massive foreign-funded terrorist militias that routinely attack Israel from their territory. That’s why there is peace.
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u/Krusader_03 Non - Lebanese Apr 09 '26
That's true but you know why right?
Their governments are smarter then their people, who would probably (not all of them tho) host Hamas, Hezb or whatever crap organization, at their place.
Al Sisi would immediately crush every single organization that would try to attack Israel and so would Abdullah.
Both can do it because both hold the power to do so. Lebanon is weak, both militarily and politically and can't do this. That's why Hezb is there.
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u/Pretend_Ad_5997 Apr 09 '26
That's why Hezb needs to stop being
therehere, because last I checked they are the only ones actually attacking Israel.3
u/dim2a Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 10 '26
Trump is a mixed bag. He is allergic to work getting this off the ground might require. On the other hand he's quick to jump on easy wins if he thinks they're feasible -- look at UAE and Bahrain. I'm pretty sure if Lebanon communicates to Trump willingness to disarm Hezbollah and recognize Israel-Lebanon 2000 border, he'll be all over this to push it the last mile, lean on Israel hard, and claim credit as "great dealmaker" -- probably throwing bunch of US taxpayer's money in the pot, similar to Israel-Egypt deal.
The hard parts are ensuring Lebanon decides whether rockets fly at Israel not Hezbollah (Israel will likely be OK with LAF having those rockets, but not Hezb), and having people agree with peace&recognition in light of recent events. Shebaa farms is another potential sticking point.
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u/RandomPants84 Apr 09 '26
I don’t know why you act like a cold peace is a bad thing, or the fact that the leadership helps ensure no fighting. Those are good things. A cold peace between Lebanon and Israel would be amazing, where neither side bombs or threatens the other in any way
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u/Krusader_03 Non - Lebanese Apr 09 '26
I don't say it's bad. But it's not reliable.
A cold peace is smth like France and Germany had post WW1 and before WW2. It takes 2 minutes to destroy it and for war to start all over again.
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u/Proctor020 Apr 09 '26
The leftist bs doesn't work here bro, Lebanon exists outside of American zeitgeist, though I know that's hard for you to believe.
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u/Krusader_03 Non - Lebanese Apr 09 '26
1) I am from Italy.
2) I am not a leftist.
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u/Proctor020 Apr 09 '26
Oh, then your opinions about American diplomacy are even less relevant
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u/Krusader_03 Non - Lebanese Apr 09 '26
It's relevant since I do know how they are currently handling diplomacy. Like trying to undermine us by stopping helping Ukraine and funding Ruzzianz proxies in Euope such as Fico or Orban. Oh yeah I was forgetting, they threatend to invade Greenland.
Trust me, the current US government is not to be trusted.
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u/Proctor020 Apr 09 '26
You see the world through a singular lens. That perspective is not to be trusted.
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u/Krusader_03 Non - Lebanese Apr 09 '26
The problem is that Trump is a lunatic. Netanyahu is a corrupt asshole who sided with religious nuts just to stay in power.
Again, would you ever trust a person like Trump who's known for being a pedo, a criminal and only god knows what else and a person like Netanyahu who is even worse than Trump?
It'd be different if POTUS was... I don't know... Obama and the Prime minister of Israel was someone like Ehud Olmert.
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u/Proctor020 Apr 09 '26
Hezbollah are lunatics. IRGC are fucking lunatics and pedos. You don't understand the dynamics at play here.
Comparing trump to Hitler while glosssing over the horrors of IRGC or Hezb proves you are either ignorant or have no integrity.
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u/XdtTransform Apr 09 '26
Obama and the Prime minister of Israel was someone like Ehud Olmert
Lot of good that did. Olmert offered Abbas a 2 state solution and the latter walked away. Despite the fact that the competing maps for the border different by a few kilometers here and there. I'll let you guess why Abbas walked away.
would you ever trust a person like Trump
You don't need to trust him. Judge the results.
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u/carpetedbathtubs Apr 09 '26
It is not an opinion but a fact that the US brokered the Egypt peace deal. Forced Israel’s collaborators to retreat (uk/france) . And committed to funding the Egyptian military so they can maintain security over the sinai themselves. Without that, that peace would not be possible. Nothing about existing within a relm of perspective.
Can you share an instance where Israel agreed on a fair peace deal without 3rd party guarantees?
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u/IlIllIIllIIlllIII Apr 10 '26
the comparison is a little far in terms of what hitler achieved he is just walking in his footsteps but hasn't made it that far
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u/Popular_Math_8503 Apr 09 '26
The other thing is that , Trump wants to use Iran negotiations to disarm hezb or figure out a plan for hezb and needs Iran involvement
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u/AbuElKess Lebanese Apr 09 '26
At this point we have nothing to lose, we can only gain from this. The world clearly doesn’t care or will stop the Israeli bombings
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u/Over_Location647 Lebanese Diaspora Apr 09 '26
Literally nobody cares, not Iran, not the US, ironically the only country that has been actively working on some kind of deal even before this war erupted is France but nobody was listening to them. This is the only way to make peace with an enemy. It’s to talk to them, or at least try to. We can’t just keep fighting these ridiculous wars and hope the outcome changes when every-time the outcome is the same.
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u/RandomPants84 Apr 09 '26
As an outsider, I’m confused. Wars end with peace treaties. The outside world could pressure a peace treaty, but that would still ideally end in a peace treaty.
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u/Over_Location647 Lebanese Diaspora Apr 09 '26
We have not had any kind of legitimate peace treaty with Israel that both sides actually respected since the 1949 agreement.
All other agreements since then have been violated by Israel, Lebanon and whatever armed group was doing stupid shit in Lebanon at the time that wars happened (since the 2000s that armed group has been Hezbollah).
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u/RandomPants84 Apr 09 '26
I’m aware of that, but isn’t that party what’s causing this mess? The rest of Israel’s neighbors have stable peace treaties which were respected by both parties and they don’t bomb each other. Hopefully we can get one that both sides follow here too and no more death ever again
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u/Pz_V Hommos Apr 09 '26
Bro you need to do more to gain the title of honorary Lebanese.
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u/FlightlessGriffin Apr 09 '26
Aww, haram. Khalas, I'll upvote him to reward good behavior.
But kasamambillah if I see him speaking Persian next.
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u/itcouldvbeenbetterif Apr 09 '26
I know how u think. U want us to accept it so u can criticize us later. Haha smart guy
Anyways inshallah kheir we should have someone we trust as a wassit, like macron
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u/heyyourwatchisbroken Lebanese Apr 09 '26
Why now? w ba3ed ma akhad ahdefo lal litani? 🧐 gharibe? W ma tghayar el nizam b iran? … w fe3liyan ma tghayar shi? Wen manta2a el 3azle… heide no2tit el tafawod?
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u/Standard_Ad7704 Beyrouth Apr 09 '26
shu asdek wen manta2a el 3azle
IDF is preparing to storm Bint Jbeil after encircling it, we are losing so much land.
Obviously, for negotiations to succeed, they will want Hezbollah to be disarmed permanently, so I am not optimistic as of now.
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist Apr 09 '26
Lebanon had been asking for these direct negotiations since the beginning of the war. What changed is now Israel is facing some pressure.
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u/random14693 Apr 09 '26
Because if they do it now they have some high ground in negotiations. The whole west is condemning what they are doing in Lebanon, no one is justifying their actions anymore, even the far right isnt. Israel wasn't even included in the ceasefire talk between usa and Iran, they didnt get a seat at the table for some reason. If they talk directly with lebanon they hold all the power and can ask for whatever they want
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u/thefreethinker9 Apr 09 '26
Except they don’t. They v been trying to invade for 3 years now and have been failing. They’re forced to negotiate
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u/FrostedBlade711 Apr 09 '26
Wallahi it's sickening how our lives are tied to this pig who suddenly wants "peace" at the snap of a certain orange man's fingers
Hal 2ad 7ayetna rkhisa
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u/The-Lord_ofHate Apr 09 '26
Don't trust his word, until the missiles and the his shitty army leaves Lebanon. Anything other than that don't rust.
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u/Legitimate_Yak_9341 Apr 09 '26
Spoiler: It (lebanon) will sign whatever it can to stop the bombings, that will include shit regarding disarming of hezbollah, it wont do nothing regarding that thing afterwards because this is way more convinient than actually do something (couldnt even kick the iranian embbasador), Israel will probably keep bombing hezbollah whenever lebanon wont stop it (hezb), ppl in here will say "what is that 'ceasfire' deal if israel is still attacking?", and a day will come when hezb will launch missiles on israel and this whole mess will start again.
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Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26
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u/Popular_Math_8503 Apr 09 '26
Then you can keep fighting buddy.. we are sick and tired of war..
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u/Quirky_Comfort8189 Apr 09 '26
Im all for a truce but i dont want normalization we all saw what they did to us yesterday. Scum
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u/EmperorChaos Lebanese are not Arab and are not Phoenicians. We are Lebanese. Apr 09 '26
A truce does fuck all if hezb will break it again. And Israel isn’t going anywhere, so normalization is just us choosing to live in the real world.
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u/Krusader_03 Non - Lebanese Apr 09 '26
I don't think normalization is part of the process. But it'd be better for Lebanon to stop this war, disarm Hezb and stop every dumb action that undermines the country's safety.
On the Israel side, I wouldn't trust Netanyahu and his cabinet to be honest. This is the worst government they have ever had since the inception of the country. This is what happens when you let the religious nuts in your cabinet.
But let's be honest, you guys can't kid yourself. Israel is there and it's not going to go anywhere. Sooner or later, you DO need to establish formal relations with them.
I would handle the thing like this:
1) You now sign a truce.
2) 10 years from now, you sign a real peace deal.
3) 5 years after the peace deal, you start a reconciliation process, similar to what France and Germany did.
4) 10 years after the reconciliation process started, you sign a normalization treaty and establish formal diplomatic relations.
5) You trade with each other, both countries need to realize it's better to trade with each other rather than killing each other.
Time goes by, the older generations (on both sides) pass away. New generations won't know about the war (they will study it at school but never experience it) and the hatred and grudge will end at some time.
The French and the Germans hated each other for centuries, there is no hate now. Same thing can be possible for Lebanon and Israel.
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u/Quirky_Comfort8189 Apr 09 '26
Yes i meant we can start with truce and peace then normalization in the long term .
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u/Krusader_03 Non - Lebanese Apr 09 '26
That's the long way goal. Normalization HAS to happen at some point.
It's literally your neighbor, an asshole neighbor but it's there. You better have the best relations with them whether you like it or not.
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u/accu-trading Apr 09 '26
Mesh metel ma badkoun ba2a, l dawle hek ararit shbe3na 7roube kel wehde bet raje3na 100 sene la wara, badak tdal t7arib rouh 7arib b iran
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u/Severe-Spo-agree Apr 09 '26
Lah ya man, ma fi y7erib bi iran. Iran is at peace now be3etoun metel l kleb once more.
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u/Severe-Spo-agree Apr 09 '26
My dear hezbot, normalization is our only solution we dont want the same thing to happen every few years for your terrorist hezb to start another war in the name of iran.
What happened yesterday is horrible yes, and we dont want it to keep happening to ys so iran can survive.
Peace, peace and peace only peace and hezb completely disarmed no matter what.
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u/Quirky_Comfort8189 Apr 09 '26
I dont suport hezbollah :))) neither iran and ofc israel. They kill us murder us and yet what we go for normalization directly?! Lets start with truce then peace and maybe we go for normalization in long term .
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u/EmperorChaos Lebanese are not Arab and are not Phoenicians. We are Lebanese. Apr 09 '26
That’s what’s coming in the peace deal.
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u/Key_Mango8016 Lebanese Apr 09 '26
Boys Trip Tel Aviv 2027 confirmed
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u/GreyPhantom100 Apr 09 '26
Honestly? If you want to go to Israel so bad, just go. We won't miss you.
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u/Key_Mango8016 Lebanese Apr 09 '26
It’s a joke man, I do not want to go there
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u/GreyPhantom100 Apr 09 '26
Ah sorry. You missed the /s
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u/Key_Mango8016 Lebanese Apr 09 '26
I probably dropped the /s while booking my Tel Aviv- I mean doing my taxes for MoF like a good citizen
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u/AwadaMo123 Apr 09 '26
Do I think the government can secure a better deal than swallowing our pride and attaching our selves to Iran and their economic pressure leverage? ….i am not all too sure. Just hope for the best.
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u/Top-Engineer-2206 Apr 09 '26
And what can Lebanon offer Israel? On what basis would we demand peace? The only thing this will lead is Iranian antagonization, the only people that could actually do something about this. And that's the only reason israel is accepting this. But sure let's clap for the two idiots in charge and their theatre and imitation of sovereignty.
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u/EmperorChaos Lebanese are not Arab and are not Phoenicians. We are Lebanese. Apr 09 '26
Fuck Iran; Iran is the reason we are in this fucking mess in the first place (their parasitic proxy Hezbollah started the last 3 wars) and they refuse to take their ambassador back after we made him a persona non grata.
We can offer them peace, normalization and definitive proof (with the help of foreign nations) that we will disarm Hezbollah.
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u/dim2a Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26
Historically, offering peace and recognition was enough -- Jordan and Egypt tried them it worked out decently for them (not perfectly, there are frictions. But not bombs). Three issues -- one is recognition needs change in narrative in Lebanon, that's not easy. Two, peace requires some way to ensure Hezbollah doesn't fire on Israel next time there is a flare up unrelated to Lebanon, that's even harder. Three is, will Israel accept similar conditions now, as it did with Jordan and Egypt? From evidence that I see I think it will, but no way to tell in advance. This government might not, but if Israeli public thinks peace is realistic, government is likely to change.
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u/Ancient_Woodpecker76 Apr 09 '26
The Lebanese government is putting Lebanese lives at risk by not rallying behind the Iran-USA ceasefire which would have China as a guarantor. To stroke their ego the Lebanese government chooses to negotiate with the illegitimate Zionist terrorist state, all just to win an imaginary point in their mind. Even though the Zionist state cannot be trusted to tell you the colour of the sky, which I don’t even need to get into because the world has seen what they have done, the Lebanese American controlled government is killing its own civilians.
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u/TheLebaneseLord Fighting for a better future, one step at a time Apr 09 '26
What are you on about?
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u/Soft-Purpose8244 Apr 09 '26
The Iranians use Lebanon to stake their claim as a regional power. Why would them let HZ be disarmed in a Leb-Isr deal?
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u/FlightlessGriffin Apr 09 '26
Hezbollah fulfilled Iran's purpose. Die as soldiers so Iran can leverage them for some gain.
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u/SlightlyCatlike Apr 09 '26
This argument works better when Iran hasn't just gone out on a limb to ensure Lebanon is part of a ceasefire
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u/Soft-Purpose8244 Apr 09 '26
Still that doesn't bode well for Leb. because as long as Iran sees an opportunity to stick its head in the Levant then Hz will continue to exist. All this about direct talks is just cosmetic.
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u/Ramerhan Apr 09 '26
Why would anyone listen to what this dude says and think "ok, FINALLY".