r/hiphop101 • u/MasterTeacher123 • 1d ago
Do you think music critics are harsher on rap albums today than they were in the past?
Or are the bad albums today just worse than the bad albums of let’s say 2001.
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u/UnderTheCurrents 1d ago
It's the exact opposite actually. Music critics have lost their bite and can't call shit by it's name anymore.
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u/TheQuestionsAglet 1d ago
Hell fucking no. Rolling Stone used to literally hate hip hop. They labeled Public Enemy all sorts of shit, and now I feel like if you wanna write there you have to love PE.
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u/UNOTHENAME200 1d ago
I remember "Midnight Mauraders" getting 2 and 1/2 starts.
I also remember them trashing "Blowout Comb" by Digable Planets.
Black music has never been appreciated by mainstream American publications.
Today is no different.
They reward the least innovative artists and the ones who are least likely to be remembered.
Thats why the Source was so important back in the day. Other than Made Men mistakes, it was almost always right.
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u/Mermaiven 1d ago
lol whut? Male “rappers” out now don’t even have to rap or have any talent. And women rappers are KILLLLLLING IT and still getting shit. I’d say the opposite!
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u/crabll 1d ago
This is just wrong and a little sexist
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u/Mermaiven 1d ago
The real “sexism” is that women rappers have to work WAY harder than men to even get recognized. They also have to be hot, pay for surgeries, dance, rap, sing, and fit into the narrowest molds AND they get constant hate for it. I love pussy rap but damn let them expand. Calling criticism of underperforming men sexism is wild. Also that is not how sexism works. It’s like talking about “reverse racism”. It’s not real.
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u/crabll 1d ago
First of all, there’s way less female rappers than male. Just like how pop is a female led genre, and it would be harder for men to become popular in pop. You don’t have to be hot to be popular, and you don’t have to pay for surgeries. Women don’t have to rap like sexy red, but it just so happens that a lot of women do rap like that, which is a very unlikable style of rap to the normal enjoyer. The fact of the matter is that men just simply make better rap music than most women. And what about Lauryn Hill? Or little simz? Or Nicki Minaj? There’s plenty of fantastic rappers who get their flowers, but the amount of men in the rap industry out number the amount of women, simple facts. Progressive liberals like you will try to put a woman in every place a man is, while simultaneously tearing down every man’s achievement. Rap was literally created by a bunch of men! Also male rappers now DO have to have talent, and so so many rappers have talent, and talentless rappers are shit on by the community. That’s the sexism. Assuming that a man has a spot just because he’s a man, and that he doesn’t deserve the spot. I could say the same thing about all the female pop stars being talentless auto tuning abusers who write the same shitty pop song over and over and over but I don’t, because that’s sexism.
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u/Mermaiven 1d ago
Nicki is literally a Barbie doll, Lauren Hill is a rare exception to reach that level, and I’m talking about CURRENT rappers. Though I looooove Little SIMZ shes not what I’d consider mainstream. You’re missing the point entirely and know nothing about women “like me” (damn sure as shit not a liberal… and that stereotyping is sexist af, ironically).
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u/Electoriad 1d ago
Back in the day before rap and hip hop was insanely commercial they still considered it a black art and NEVER took it seriously. Now with the climate having changed, it’s definitely better. The ONLY issue with modern criticism is so many of them are stuck in their own chambers and have tons of yes men there waiting on them to form their opinion to regurgitate it. Almost taking their words as gospel.
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u/tweekinleanin420 1d ago
Have u ever heard of 2 slimey? Have yourself a listen. Jorjiana. It's rough out there, man.
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u/Correct-Cantaloupe39 1d ago
I think it’s just easier access to any music you could want to hear, so there’s more opinions made public.
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u/LegitimateMall8614 1d ago
i think there a lot harsher but hip hop has changed so much don't know if its for the better or worse
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u/Wrong-Bowl-4681 1d ago
Depends on the outlet. I think too many of the people reviewing rap albums, especially writing about rap albums, are old heads and don't get much of the new stuff. I say that as an old head.
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u/The_Chef_Raekwon 🔥 1d ago
I think it’s the opposite, at least in public discussion. Roll along with the forced positivity or risk being framed as a bitter hater.