r/haikyuu • u/VikingHedgehog • Jan 10 '20
Discussion Haikyu!! Season 4 MANGA READER Discussion thread - OVAs & Episode 1 Spoiler
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u/potatozama Jan 10 '20 edited Jan 10 '20
While I wait for the subs to come up, I wanna talk about the OP! idk if I'm allowed to link to it at this time of writing but it's floating around on twitter
- Song is awesome, as expected!
- The opening with Hinata on the floor in frustration and slowly getting up is powerful.
- A few shots of Komori, Hoshiumi, Sakusa and Atsumu along with Kageyama! r.i.p Chigaya. I wonder if anime fans will remember him? 😂
- We have a shot of a garbage dump (--> the battle with Nekoma), and also a... red chair? A reference to Kageyama aka King of the Court, or am I overthinking this? ahah
- No clips of the Miyagi camp participants, weirdly enough... we have a thoughtful shot of Ushijima, Washijo and Hinata though
- Tsubakihara (whose uniforms are blue and yellow) are shown in the second half when Karasuno are playing at Nationals, so this seems to be confirmation that Cour 2 is fully dedicated to Inarizaki.
- The animation looked very good during the play sequence! I almost forgot they were in the new style there. It's gonna take me a while to get used to seeing them on the orange court :')
- Sad by the lack of shots of Karasuno members overall tbh, even though I understand a lot of this arc is focused on Kageyama and Hinata
- The shot of the fist in the air? That eventual closeup to Daichi holding the "Miyagi - Karasuno" sign? The group shot at the end? Feelsy
[edit] Just watched the ED during the wait. Not much to comment but it might be my fave ED already <3 the focus on the "supporters" of Karasuno (especially Shimizu, whose backstory I an anticipating greatly, and Yachi) is beautiful
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 10 '20
We have a shot of the garbage dump (--> the battle with Nekoma), and also a... red chair? A reference to Kageyama aka King of the Court, or am I overthinking this? ahah
I think the shot of the garbage dump is referencing the scene where Hinata crowns Kageyama the "new king of the court" during the Date Tech practice match, since that shows Kageyama with the crown, surrounded by garbage with that tipped over chair. The final page of chapter 224 if you want a refresher. It's stunning how similar the two images are. Both have that tipped over chair and trashcan, and both piles of rubbish are topped by a tv.
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u/potatozama Jan 10 '20 edited Jan 10 '20
Ooh I forgot the re-crowning of Kageyama was done with the garbage in the background! I'll have to reread that volume (which I'm conveniently missing even though I have all the other raws from Volume 19 to 34 LOL)
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u/flybypost Jan 10 '20
No clips of the Miyagi camp participants, weirdly enough...
What about the mattress in the storage area? You can't just forget the MC of that arc.
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u/potatozama Jan 11 '20
Late comment to talk about Season 4 Episode 1
- Again a shoutout to all the old VAs back! I've missed them all <3
- Hinata boasting about defeating a boar to Kageyama LOL. Loving that continuity, anime staff. Now I want to see how that boar showdown went.
- I'm laughing @ Asahi's hair already going back to his original tight manbun, even though it was still the looser style with the headband at this point in the manga.
- The measurement scene is mostly redone to follow the manga, fortunately. Tsukishima's smugness when he got measured and revealed he's 190cm KILLED me lmao
- Tsukishima in general was great in this episode. His mental breakdown when Hinata snuck onto camp was beautiful
- I'm sad we're no longer getting "character tries to hit water bottle" eyecatches :( the new ones are cute of course (will they stay the same or change each episode?), including the ones in the OVAs. But I was looking forward to new versions of the old eyecatches... I will also miss the banter in the old next episode previews.
- The art style change stands out more for some characters but it's honestly easy to forget about it when you're watching... hopefully people who were worried are at ease now.
- Sakusa voiced by Kousuke Toriumi seems good so far! I'm just giddy to hear him say "Wakatoshi-kun" ngl. Wonder what anime fans' impressions of him will be since his little screentime in the Tokyo preliminaries was reduced even more.
- I hear some new OST and I'm loving them already!
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 11 '20
I'm sad we're no longer getting "character tries to hit water bottle" eyecatches
You know, with the current manga arc being the one where Karasuno is explicitly stated to be working on serves, this really seems like it'd be the perfect time to have the water bottle eyecatches.
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u/potatozama Jan 11 '20
Ikr? Give me Tanaka practising his jump serve and going apeshit when he misses. Or some Kinoshita float jump love :'(
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 11 '20
Imagine if they did that and it was how we finally got a look at Narita’s serves
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u/flybypost Jan 12 '20
Maybe they'll come later? Showing that stuff early would be a spoiler. With the other characters (season 1 to 3) their serves were kinda established but the new ones would be part of the "nationals prep arc".
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u/alexismarg Jan 11 '20
I'm just giddy to hear him say "Wakatoshi-kun" ngl.
Woman of culture <3
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u/potatozama Jan 11 '20
I need my Wakatoshi-kun/Omi-kun backstory ASAP.
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u/alexismarg Jan 11 '20 edited Jan 11 '20
I bet they were BFFs in the youth camps all those years 😤 Top aces who don’t have any shits to give (tm)
Edit: It is interesting, though, the contrast between their personalities. Ushijima the ultimate untiltable machine and Sakusa looks like he’ll come undone at a dirt stain.
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u/potatozama Jan 11 '20 edited Jan 11 '20
Some late comments to talk about the OVAs and episode (in a separate comment) themselves. I did see them as soon as they were released on CR but I went straight to sleep afterward ahah.
OVAS
- Akane and Alisa are great voiced + animated <3 Daishou's VA also did a good job. And of course hearing all the old VAs again warms my heart (shoutout to Ryohei Kimura as Bokuto and Yuuichi Nakamura as Kuroo).
- Justice for Fukurodani... their match with Nekoma was a fun one but it was super rushed here. I hate that Konoha's scenes were cut (at least we had a reference to his Mr Jack of All Trades Master of None title when someone from the audience called it out to him and pissed him off LOL)
- The way they animated Bokuto's inner cross was awesome! But ending the match and showing the "ways of an ace" right there feels unfair.
- Based on Japanese fan tweets from the pre-screening I was expecting Nohebi's "dirty tactic" moments to be heavily downplayed but they're actually still there, fortunately... still rushed and in small amounts, but still there.
- I don't remember how much of the second second set of Nohebi vs Nekoma was shown in the manga but it definitely felt nearly nonexistent here :L
- Poor Nohebi coach for having no lines... Shame about Kuguri not having much screentime, I was looking forward to him (especially with voiced by Takeo Ootsuka, the VA of KazeTsuyo's Kakeru). He sounded so unenthusiastic whenever he spoke which is accurate I guess LOL
- That shot of Sakusa's back while spiking to show Fukurodani lost to Itachiyama is pathetic honestly... at least SHOW HIS FACE, dudes.
- I feel like I dissed these OVAs too much so now for some compliments... the comedy is on point as usual (Bokuto forgetting how to do cross shots definitely my highlight haha), the new art style is great, and animation was done well. That final scene with Hinata actually running into a boar was hilarious.
But overall, these OVAs deserved better.... Even adapting this tournament in three OVA episodes would had been more bearable. Anyway, I hope this isn't an indication of how the main anime will treat future matches that don't concern Karasuno (I'm looking at you, Mujinazaka vs Fukurodani... if those get a crappy OVA treatment too, I am THROWING hands).
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 11 '20
I don't remember how much of the second second set of Nohebi vs Nekoma was shown in the manga but it definitely felt nearly nonexistent here
We see almost as much in the second set as we do in the first set, in the manga. First set is 5 chapters of playing, second set is 4 chapters. The second set is where most of the character stuff is, too.
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u/potatozama Jan 11 '20
The second set was the one with the Yamamoto focus, right? Really sucks for him. Seeing all this character development/exposition cut out in these OVAs is depressing.
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 11 '20
Yeah 202 is the first chapter of the second set and is where we get the Yamamoto focus, and they cut pretty much the entire chapter
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u/IISuperSlothII Jan 10 '20
so this seems to be confirmation that Cour 2 is fully dedicated to Inarizaki.
I thought they might have been able to get Nekoma in as well but I didn't realise it was 41 chapters which yeah could easily take up 11-12 episodes.
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 10 '20
Yeah Inarizaki + Nekoma is close to 80 chapters, which would probably take a full 25 episode season to adapt, considering how intricate those two matches are.
Honestly, I'm even a little worried about fitting all of Inarizaki into 11-12 episodes. It's true that it's only around a chapter longer than Shiratorizawa was, but Shiratorizawa was a significantly less intricate match with a fair bit more fluff. I think they'll manage, but it'll be tight.
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u/LiquidZane Jan 10 '20
Is Tsubakihara the first school that Karasuno plays?
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u/potatozama Jan 10 '20
Yep, Tsubakihara are Karasuno's Round 1 opponents! If you look closely you can also see their headbands.
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u/LiquidZane Jan 10 '20
Ahh I haven’t seen the op yet and it’s been a while since I read those chapters. Can’t wait for the episode to come on.
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 10 '20
We also did already know Tsubakihara's team colours from the back of volume 27, so even if you missed the headbands, it's still possible to identify them based on colours.
Blue and yellow is definitely a kind of jarring colour combo, though. On the back of volume 27, the yellow is a lot more washed out, so it's less harsh on the eyes, but at least the anime chose to not go with a super bright yellow, so it's not too bad.
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u/potatozama Jan 10 '20 edited Jan 10 '20
So I vaguely remember reading ages ago their uniform colours are blue/yellow, but I'm not sure if I ever saw the picture... I looked it up after you pointed it out, and my eyes are kind of burning ngl :')
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 10 '20
Yeah there are a lot of bad colour combos in Haikyuu.
Cries in Mujinazaka
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u/DreamMarsh Jan 17 '20
Omg I can't believe i thought their color would be red the entire time reading the manga ;~;
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u/Meloncalle Jan 17 '20
Man I'm happy with them leaving Inarizaki for Cour 2. That match shows Shoyou's growth so well. It definitely deserves a 12 ep like Shiratorizawa.
This also means we will be entering the season after with the battle of the dumpster. I hope they end the season with Shoyou telling Kenma "Here it is, the game with out a "Restart""
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 10 '20
My thoughts on the OP:
- The low angle makes Hinata look giant.
- The focus on the brightness of the stadium lights is a great way to kick off, especially with how enamored Hinata is with them right before the Tsubakihara match kicks off.
- Komori's t-shirt colour offends me.
- The off-kilter rhythm when it switches from character to character at the training camp is A+, and ending with that ping on Kageyama gives that entire segment some much-appreciated punch.
- Seeing the shot of the garbage dump where Kageyama is crowned the "new king of the court" is great. We get to see that image without it being a spoiler in any way, since we're seeing it without Kageyama. It's also cool to see it from a different angle than we do in the manga, and despite that, they've managed to keep most of the details the same.
- Having Washijo be moving slowly down the screen and Hinata moving slowly up was a good choice. When they both start off, Washijo is above Hinata, but after that short segment, Hinata is above him, mirroring his growth and surpassing of Washijo. They could have easily been static in that bit and it would've still been good, but that slight detail stood out to me.
- That Daichi save is so pretty.
- The way the shadows move as the raised fist rotates is 10/10.
- The order of the lineup at the end from right to left is: Daichi, Suga, Asahi, Tanaka, Nishinoya, Kageyama, Hinata, Tsukishima, Yamaguchi, Ennoshita, Kinoshita, Narita.
- Obviously, this was done to put Hinata and Kageyama in the middle, but I feel like it's really rare in the manga for us to see the team lining up not in numerical order. It's also a weirdly-weighted one. Almost none of the players to the left of Hinata are actually all that major.
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 10 '20
Now that I've seen the OVAs and the first episode, here are my thoughts:
Fukurodani vs Nekoma:
- Boo they removed Akane's line saying that Sarukui's serve was vicious/powerful. And they definitely animated it in a way that didn't make it seem very strong.
- Interestingly, they gave Bokuto more throwaway points, but his spikes seem to be kinda weaker than in the manga. His line shot very blows Kenma backwards in the manga, but just kinda ricochets off in the anime.
- The way they draw the Bokuto stuff from the end of the match is top-tier, though, and you really feel his power with that last spike.
Nekoma vs Nohebi:
- Did they completely remove the bit about Numai dislocating his thumb?
- God Lev's legs look built sometimes.
- I really think they should have lingered more on the aftermath of Yaku's injury. In the manga, we get Kuroo's explanation of what happened etc, whereas the anime cut from the injury to the super cheery ED music. They do make up for it in the next episode, though.
- That shot of Kuroo and Kai when Yaku is being subbed out is one of the better drawings in this OVA.
- The shadows and colour shift with Nohebi single out Shibayama is A+.
- They kept in Lev getting carried away and Yamamoto hitting him, so all is forgiven.
- Shibayama loosening himself up before perfectly receiving Daisho's serve is the one thing in this OVA to look as good as (if not better than) in the manga.
- It's definitely weird to have Numai referred to as "Numa", the first time we see or hear of him. Even in the scene where he's called that in the manga, we have text on-screen telling us that his name is "Numai".
- Somehow, Kenma looks huge in that panel at the end of the first set with Lev and Kuroo. Low angles, man.
- They nailed Lev's revelation at the end of the second set. The look of realisation on his face was fantastic.
- The visuals when Lev scares Kuguri into avoiding him were on point. Though I think the manga's phrasing of "I'll be devoured" is much better than "I'll be killed".
- Daisho's run for the ball at the end is far better in the manga. You feel his desperation more than you do in the anime.
- A few minutes in I noticed that they're cutting a lot. I'm just gonna start a mini-list of important things they cut from this match:
- Akane talking about Nohebi's playstyle and their team panel as she talks about them inducing their opponents' self-destruction.
- Daisho owning up to touching the ball and sucking up to the ref.
- Daisho's second dink, which is what prompts Yamamoto to move too far up for the third one.
- Yamamoto getting chastised by the ref.
- Lev's net-touch when blocking.
- Kuroo's service ace.
- Kai commenting that Fukunaga is particularly good at aiming his shots.
- Nohebi calling Fukunaga's spike as being out and fooling the ref.
- The first time we see the snake on the court.
- Kuroo comforting Shibayama and telling him to breathe, which is probably the most captainly thing we ever see from Kuroo.
- The whole "I guess Nekoma's ace is an ace in name only" thing.
- Yamamoto's receiving montage and the snake wrapping around him, as well as Lev's genuine admiration.
- They cut out the back of the ace, which is pretty much the theme of this arc.
Season 4, Episode 1:
- Ayy Crunchyroll are keeping the metric, instead of using imperial. I was worried I'd have to correct their conversions or something.
- The cutting between characters as Hinata is about to measure his spiking height is really good with the sound. Even though the visuals are less intense, the sound design more than makes up for it.
- I always have a weird thing about being shown a jump from underneath. To me, the jump will always look higher if you pull back and track their entire approach and jump from the side, since you have more things in the environment to compare with, including their own body. Showing from underneath increases the intensity of the shot, but also makes it seem less impressive, imo.
- I never pictured the staircase Kageyama is climbing to be white. It makes total sense, of course, but it caught me off-guard.
- The sound design in the cycling scene helps to elevate its intensity, to make up for the less striking art. This seems to be a running thing.
- The shading on all the other first years at the Miyagi camp is 10/10. I do kinda miss having the heights on-screen though, since that kinda elevates the humour of that scene for me.
- Coach Hibarida's voice is so goooood.
- I am not surprised at all that a CHiCO w/Honeyworks ED would open by focusing on the girls. I love the song, though.
Overall:
- The OVAs really disappointed me. IMO, they cut the most important sequence in the entire arc, which is also one of my favourite sequences in the entire series and is what catapulted Yamamoto into my top 10. I think the OVAs had their moments, though, especially towards the end.
- S04E01 was really good. They're doing a good job compensating for the less intense art with sound design, and the new designs look really good in motion. I'm excited for the rest of the season.
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u/flybypost Jan 10 '20
Daisho owning up to touching the ball and sucking up to the ref.
I'm not 100% sure but I think that happened. There was a moment when a Nohebi player apologised near the net. Or was that a different moment? I don't remember how often they apologised.
Kai commenting that Fukunaga is particularly good at aiming his shots.
That one was unforgivable D:
Nohebi calling Fukunaga's spike as being out and fooling the ref.
I think that one happened and I'm quite sure about it. They jumped left and right of the ball and called for it being out and we even got a little explanation (and somebody in the audience questioning the refs decision). Or did that happen multiple times and they just showed it once?
I don't remember how much sneaky stuff the snakes did during that game.
Overall The second OVA looked better than the first but it still felt like they gave both to new staff who had never worked on Haikyuu and let them used season 1 – 3 cuts as reference when needed.
Although I have to agree with all the good stuff you mentioned. It's not all bad and some stuff rather good (Nohebi's aura targeting Shibayama). I also love the effect for Lev's last block. But it could all have been better and would have benefitted from having more minutes to show us everything.
S04E01 was good. There were tiny moments where it felt off but I hope/think that was just me adjusting to the new style, that I overall love very much.
And yeah, the rest of the season should be good. I watched the first OVA and was a bit afraid for episode one so I switched to that right after the first OVA, just to see how that looks. Thankfully my prediction was 100% wrong.
But it was a shock. I defended all the previews with maybe being rushed and how things should be better in the full broadcast of the OVAs/episodes. The actual drop in quality for the first OVA scared my optimism out of my body until I had seen the episode.
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 10 '20
There was a moment when a Nohebi player apologised near the net. Or was that a different moment? I don't remember how often they apologised.
That happened later on. Daisho owning up to touching the ball happens twice, but the first one (the one they cut) is the actually important one, since it's what introduces us to Nohebi's whole style of play.
I think that one happened and I'm quite sure about it. They jumped left and right of the ball and called for it being out and we even got a little explanation (and somebody in the audience questioning the refs decision). Or did that happen multiple times and they just showed it once?
The one they showed was later on, when they dived in front to obscure the linesman's view. The one they cut was early on, when the linesman called it as in, but the ref overruled and said it was out. It's the first time we see the ref's bias in action.
I don't remember how much sneaky stuff the snakes did during that game.
They did a lot. When reading the chapters weekly, I wanted to tear my hair out, because of how frustrating it was.
Overall The second OVA looked better than the first but it still felt like they gave both to new staff who had never worked on Haikyuu and let them used season 1 – 3 cuts as reference when needed.
I didn't notice the cuts thing, but I think you might be right. I agree that the second OVA looked better, but it also cut the entire Yamamoto being targeted thing and his ace emphasis, which is far and away the best part of the Tokyo Qualifiers, imo. Seeing the snake try to suffocate him and seeing the stress not having Yaku around puts on him is so good.
Although I have to agree with all the good stuff you mentioned. It's not all bad and some stuff rather good (Nohebi's aura targeting Shibayama). I also love the effect for Lev's last block. But it could all have been better and would have benefitted from having more minutes to show us everything.
Agreed to all of this. The Shibayama and Lev stuff was pretty great, but there really just needed to be a third episode of the OVA.
The actual drop in quality for the first OVA scared my optimism out of my body until I had seen the episode.
God that's a mood. I'm so glad I could go straight from the OVAs to the first episode of the season (thankfully, this all came out on Saturday morning for me, so I have a lot of spare time to watch it all at once), so that I could rebuild a lot of that optimism.
Also I think the one thing that is uniformly great across both the OVAs and S04E01 is the sound design and OST. Both are stellar.
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u/flybypost Jan 10 '20
They did a lot. When reading the chapters weekly, I wanted to tear my hair out, because of how frustrating it was.
With all the cuts they made for the OVA and my spotty memory of all their sneaky stuff I really missed a lot of it. I completely overlooked that they did all that stuff multiple times. That makes the OVAs feel even more compressed. I knew that something was missing, your list was even longer than mine, and now with those reminders the list of left out details feels even longer.
I didn't notice the cuts thing, but I think you might be right. I agree that the second OVA looked better,
It's frustrating because I could see where they were reusing them while similar shortcuts seemed less obvious during season 1 – 3, where it was also done but more competently. I think OVA 2 might have looked better because it was more of a game and less of the rest (character moments outside of games) and they got used to it by then.
Also I think the one thing that is uniformly great across both the OVAs and S04E01 is the sound design and OST. Both are stellar.
Yup, I really, really love that song with the guitar (that we heard first in the OVA preview). It gave me that feeling of competent teams who are fighting for a spot at nationals, unlike all the Karasuno songs from season 1 – 3. Those felt aspirational and had a certain pressure to them, like a new team exploring a space they have never seen and working hard each step of the way. That new song just felt lighter and more playful, like a team with a calm routine that doesn't get rattled easily; fitting for both Nekoma and Fukurodani.
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 10 '20
I knew that something was missing, your list was even longer than mine, and now with those reminders the list of left out details feels even longer.
Honestly, there are also bits I left off my list, since I was only including things that I felt were noteworthy on their own. However, there are a lot of little things that build up to make Nohebi into the annoying team that they are, and a lot of those were left out.
I think OVA 2 might have looked better because it was more of a game and less of the rest (character moments outside of games) and they got used to it by then.
That's interesting, I hadn't considered that, but it makes total sense.
That new song just felt lighter and more playful, like a team with a calm routine that doesn't get rattled easily; fitting for both Nekoma and Fukurodani.
Oooh that's a good way of looking at it. I also think it gives off this air of unrelenting optimism, which fits well with the content it's adapting, since I don't think we're ever supposed to really think that Fukurodani or Nekoma won't make it to nationals. Even when Nohebi were at their most frustrating, I found myself asking "how are Nekoma going to get themselves out of this", rather than actually worrying about whether they'd pull it off or not, so a more upbeat and optimistic song really works well here.
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u/flybypost Jan 11 '20
I also think it gives off this air of unrelenting optimism, which fits well with the content it's adapting, since I don't think we're ever supposed to really think that Fukurodani or Nekoma won't make it to nationals.
Yeah, the whole three teams out of four made it all rather possible. Those were games they had to go through, not ones they could really lose. And Nohebi were also blatantly set up as the bad guys during the match.
But I really got to like them by the end of that arc and would have loved to see their shithousery on the national stage.
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 11 '20
It took a few rereads for me to really like Nohebi. They really got under my skin at first, with how Daisho seems to think of himself as being more dedicated and committed to the sport because of his willingness to use underhanded tactics. They did grow on me eventually, though, it just took a while.
And I'm not sure their style of playing would have worked out too well at nationals. Since it's a bigger competition, there are probably more precautions in place, and a lot of the teams just sorely outclass Nohebi. They have a couple of really good players (Daisho, Kuguri, and presumably Numai), but their middles and their setter are sorely lacking (even though Hiroo is one of like 5 middles in the series who is genuinely good at serving, he doesn't offer much beyond that). Honestly, I'd really like to see Daisho on a stronger team. He's really smart and precise, so if he were backed by a stronger team he could probably tear apart the holes in the opposition's defense without resorting to underhanded tactics.
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u/flybypost Jan 11 '20
And I'm not sure their style of playing would have worked out too well at nationals. Since it's a bigger competition, there are probably more precautions in place, and a lot of the teams just sorely outclass Nohebi.
I'm rereading the Inarizaki match right now and he's in the audience. There's a moment early in the first set where he realises that the teams who get into the actual tournament are on a higher level and he actually seems impressed.
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 11 '20
I thought I remembered that, but I didn't want to say unless I was misremembering, ahaha.
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u/kKunoichi Jan 10 '20
I love the OP, it's probably my second favorite song-wise! The animation of the playing is great, especially that Daichi save. Also we have our first look of Tsubakihara and it's none of their major players xD
I appreciate that they redid the whole measuring stat scene. It has been three years
Kageyama's line and then followed by the music they used, wow I felt that
Yoooo the OST on the flash through of the first year training camp guys
Hinagarasu eyecatch is adorable
Sakusa is so low energy, I really feel it from the VA work lol
I love the visuals for the ED, gotta appreciate our support crew
That went by too fast!
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u/maryamperson Jan 10 '20
I love that the ED shows our support cast, especially knowin that kiyoko will have a special dedicated sequence, the train running!
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u/kKunoichi Jan 11 '20 edited Jan 11 '20
The ED reassured me that they most likely will animate the Kiyoko chapter, which I'm happy about
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 10 '20
we have our first look of Tsubakihara and it's none of their major players
Hey Iwamuro is at least the more major of their middles. At least it wasn't Atema.
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u/BVerfG Jan 10 '20
Was an excellent first episode. The jump competition and Nishinoya being a clown was just as funny as Tsukki desperately trying to pretend he doesnt know Hinata and failing.
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u/_hisoka_freecs_ Jan 10 '20
the ova was ok, the one bokuto spike was really nice and excelled the manga but a lot was cut which made the matches subpar compared to there manga counterparts . You dont get the same slimy feeling from nohebi with only a couple annoyances. It really starts to piss off in the manga with they pile up on the constant fouls, rule abusing and then the audience cheering them on, but its missing here, along with sugurus struggle and desperation to win, which made the match great to read. Kind off annoyed that they saw this match as just extra content and not part of the actual story just because karasuno wasnt playing
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u/RedTurtle78 Jan 11 '20
Yeah, nohebi match is definitely one of my favorite in the series, so it saddened me. They left out yamamoto's thing too, with them trying to break him, but he holds out because he knows he cant afford to give in to taunting with yaku out of the game.
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u/MONSTE3ER Jan 10 '20
The animation is crazy good. The manga artstyle is crazy good. This season is gonna be crazy good.
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u/alexismarg Jan 11 '20
I am genuinely obsessed with this OP. The song is excellent (though it doesn’t surpass Hikari Are for me, sorry), but the visuals are what I find really incredible. To see Karasuno holding their sign among the masses of teams gathered there and knowing they eventually made it to top eight in the country was so moving. As was seeing “Congratulations on going to spring high tournament” flying over the school building at the start, and Hinata’s smile when he sees it. They have come so far since the beginning and made it so far in the end. I really missed Karasuno so much and it feels like coming home to see them all again.
A little late to this party so the things I wanna say have mostly been mentioned, but some bits I especially loved (from E1):
— Kageyama’s jump during the verticals measurements was so beautiful ;-; I’ve missed that gorgeous, elegant run-up of his. Missed that silly boy in general. He seemed more triumphant arriving at that camp without getting lost than about anything else he’s ever done, and I felt that. It’s the small victories, Kags.
— Tsukishima straight up losing his shit at Hinata was super refreshing. It’s nice to see Tsukishima show intensity of emotion and that scene definitely hit me more in animation. All of Tsukki’s scenes in this ep were so good. His dripping-with-smug face when he gets out of the height measurements, and when he’s speaking to Hinata about the All-Japan camp as if Hinata were a particularly slow two-year old 😂
— Noya’s little speech about Kageyama pushing Hinata to go higher was beautiful! Because Hinata believes Kageyama will always be able to match him, he constantly pushes himself higher. Such a nice little reintroduction to the wonderful dynamic between our MCs. I always felt a Kageyama-Hinata matchup was not necessary for the series to end properly, but, thinking about this line, I do see the value in that premise. Their face-off is essentially Kageyama and Hinata playing against a monster whom they themselves helped to create, and that’s kind of an awesome concept.
— Hibarida’s speech was so good. Man, that character is good. Man, it sucks that a U19 team coached by him will never be a thing.
— Sakusa & his VA are such scene stealers.
Really happy to be back on the hypekyuu train <3
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 12 '20
Hibarida’s speech was so good. Man, that character is good. Man, it sucks that a U19 team coached by him will never be a thing.
To be fair, he's not the U19 coach. He's the national men's coach. The U19 coach is Hitaki, who only shows up like once or twice.
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u/SvsTheW0rld Jan 11 '20
ik lots of ppl here are disappointed with the ovas, and i really get that.
but given that they only got 2 episodes to condense down all of the chapters and chapters the manga spent on those matches, i felt they did a decent job of it.
an anime will always need to make some cuts, and tbh i'm glad they bothered with these matches at all, given that they aren't completely necessary to the overall story and karasuno's progression.
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u/CarnivorousCoconut Jan 10 '20
I’m disappointed in the OVAs. Really sad how the story was told. Legit gonna tell my anime only friends to lower all expectations and probably just read the manga for those chapters...
S4E1 was really awesome though. Great comedy. Didn’t expect much else since it’s just E1
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u/kvngmelly Jan 10 '20 edited Jan 10 '20
Loved the first episode . The OP music is fire as always . The new animation is better then I first thought it’d be & seeing everyone back on my TV screen is always a joyous sight . Can’t wait for the next one
Edit : Takeda-sensei’s little moment still has me dying
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u/yukiyaya Jan 10 '20
I’m just so happy that we’re getting Season 4 that I have turned off my judging prick side and tried to enjoy watching my boysssssss as much as possible! The change in art style and the lack (sort of) BGM didn’t stop me from getting giggles here and there. I almost forgot that Kageyama is actually so bad at kanji that he almost got lost lol
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u/YoinksOnchi Jan 11 '20
The ball moves so weirdly, imo. Like, sometimes it just hovers for a few seconds and other times it's way too fast. Same with the digs, some look really good and others are just disgusting, like their arms just snap together for half a millisecond and it's just so weird for me. It seems like the animators haven't figured out how to animate it the best so they just did it randomly and sometimes it works and sometimes it just doesn't.
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u/antrix_AFC Jan 11 '20
Yes there definitely seems to be a major discrepancy when compared to the art style and animation of the first three seasons. I heard somewhere the budget is tight for this one (I wonder why tho, with the success of the first three seasons, it should be high), so if that really is the case, then they might be saving the juices for the second half of season 4, the tournament arc. Regardless, the art work has taken a serious dip in quality, its getting closer to the manga which imo is not a good thing
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u/ChocoMikan Jan 12 '20
Why is no one talking about how they DIDN'T START THE FIRST EP with the 'high wall looming before me' monologue from Hinata??? Or at least a variation??
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u/nightimestars Jan 15 '20
I kinda felt they would leave that out since Hinata's arc is more about independence and being a more well rounded player on his own. Previous seasons it's true Hinata needed to rely on others to be of value... which is what that quote was about.
Season 4 Hinata is trying to become known on his own merit and not as an accessory to Kageyama. I'm guessing it was intentional.
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u/ChocoMikan Jan 15 '20
Yeah, that's why I thought a variation, that he has to overcome the wall by himself, something like 'together with my teammates I could see over it, but now I have to do it by myself' or taking the high wall a bit less literal as to him becoming a good player in general on his own. I just don't like that they cut it out completely, nothing to really show the start of a new season.
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u/lithiumflwr Jan 13 '20
new director sucks idk why they changed the director who actually made haikyuu worthy
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u/damsao Jan 13 '20
This new season feels like an entirely different anime. I’m just really worried about the animation style because it’s THE thing that got me into it.
The way they jump and run and set, it was so beautifully animated. This new style feels a lot more fast paced and ridgid. I don’t know how to describe it, but it doesn’t seem to flow as smoothly as the old style.
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Jan 10 '20
Anyone else didn’t like the Ova
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u/kKunoichi Jan 11 '20
It's passable but definitely super rushed. I still wish it could have been at least an episode longer
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u/gabstaria Jan 11 '20
it feels like since it's an ova it should be able to take it's time... like it's not like they gotta rush to get back to karasuno or anything?
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u/Robbstar Jan 10 '20 edited Jan 10 '20
Episode 1: First few minutes were a recap, which wasn't what I hoped for, but it wasn't bad. The opening song was really good and nearly all the visuals/animations at the end too. Unfortunately a few of the spike animations now look a bit weird with the new style season 4 brings. Overall the faces now look a few years younger. I hope I get used to it.
Also I feel like the episode missed something about the Haikyuu charme of previous seasons. Yes there were comedic scenes, but presented in another style. I can't really say what exactly it is. It felt like other anime, but not Haikyuu.
The national camp stuff was awesome. I know I read it once, but seeing Sukasa now was so exiting, knowing what happens now in the manga.
The Shiratorizawa camp was alright. I thought the words coach Washijo says to Hinata would be presented without background music. I thought it lessened the impact of his words. Tsukishima was the bestin those scenes. "I don't know him."
Now that I know they changed the style of the visuals and animations a bit, I am worried that one of my favorite upcoming moments won't feel and look as good anymore. I am talking about their first match in the tournament and for the first time Kageyama is the one who is nervous. He has a hard time at first, but then they try their quicks again. Kageyama just thinks "Ba-". And then Hinata connects and his thought completes to "Bam". I don't know if it's that accurate anymore. However I felt like they would not use the weapon sight anymore and the sound effect with it. I am probably worrying too much about that.
All in all I still thought it was a good episode. I just want my favorite show to be the best it can be.
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u/RedTurtle78 Jan 11 '20 edited Jan 11 '20
more than just a recap, some of it was left out of s3 entirely, Im glad they went back and re-adapted it. Like pointing out that noya is probably good enough to go to the all japan youth camp, but the reason he didnt get invited was likely due to his lack of maturity. Hinata's request for a rematch to Kageyama, and even the stuff beforehand with his classmate.
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u/Robbstar Jan 11 '20
You are right, that explanation about Noya maybe skilled enough, but not mature enough was good. It's just that i tend to be very greedy when watching anime I know the manga of. Did we see his classmate before that? I might have forgotten him.
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u/RedTurtle78 Jan 11 '20
I dont believe his friend was shown, or that entire scene along with the height measuring, in season 3
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u/Robbstar Jan 10 '20
OVA: Amazing. Just amazing. The first episode was my favorite part of it. Even though I don't really liked Nekoma as a team before. While reading the manga I just wanted to know what Karasuno is up to, so I didn't really care for that arc except for Bokuto and Sakusa. But now I can't deny that I like Kuro, Yaku and Lev. I also really enjoyed that they emphasized that Lev can hit that high. The reason is that I play volleyball as a MB too. And I suck at hitting the ball at its highest point. I am tall, but don't really use my hight to my advantage. So it's a skill that let's me feel envious for everyone who can do it. And that Match Point diagonal spike Bokuto did was phenomenal. Those dumb rules he thought up to sound cool really brought it home. What a glorious OVA.
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u/iameatingchocolate Jan 10 '20
Nohebi vs Nekoma. I remembered getting irritated at a team for the first time in haikyuverse.
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u/karlamsloki Jan 11 '20
It was a good first episode.
I won't lie the animation is throwing me off a bit, it's probably going to take me a few episodes to get used it but hopefully I will. That being said, I'm glad they went back a bit to recap season 3 and that we got the whole scene because it did feel important to cover in full.
The emphasis of the whole episode was obviously on Hinata and I felt so bad for him through the episode, Kageyama's "I'm going on ahead" and Hinata's realization that he was falling behind was tough to read and now it's also though to watch. I won't lie, I was pissed when Hinata wasn't invited to the training camp in the manga and it's still infuriating watching it in the anime.
The fact that he wasn't invited because of his stature is ridiculous, Washijo's ideologies clearly come from his own failings when he was younger and I really hate that he tries to shut down Hinata to prove himself right. Coaches with their own set biases are the worst.
That being said boy I'm so glad to see my sarcastic boi Tsukki back, the dry sarcasm was sorely missed.
The OP and ED were fantastic, loved watching the little glimpses of nationals.
I can't wait for Kageyama's interactions at the training camp, his conversation with Hoshiumi had me in stitches in the manga so I can't wait to see it animated.
YES FINALLY MY FAVORITE BOY ATSUMU IS HERE, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 84 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!
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u/Archduke_Zag Jan 10 '20
They actually kept in Ennoshita mentioning the U19 tournament and didn't even downplay it. That's interesting, but it's healthier for me to just assume it will never happen. Even if it was the thing I most excited about Deep breaths, deep breaths.
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u/GGABueno Jan 11 '20
Yeah, it was really sad seeing them hyping it and Itachiyama up when they were both basically scrapped from the manga.
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u/pppequena01 Jan 10 '20
(First,I'm sorry for my English, I'm looking to see if someone thinks the same or close to what I felt) I have always been in love with haikyuu, used to be so so hyped for first's episodes.... and I got really sad to see how used to the old animation I was, meaning that I still got a little weirded out in some moments, I guess it's just getting closer and closer to the ""manga"" style. In season two, we had the famous encounter between hinata, kageyama and ushijima. Season three the beginning of this awesome game...and now it's just ...not like idk... I have mixed feelings, I knew exactly what it would happen, but...idk...TT On the other side, the part that they take measurement its really fun and cute ^ Hinata also showed a lot of "first season energy" and I love it so so much.
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u/brightdecide Jan 10 '20
The lyrics of both the OP and ED literally kicked me in the face, especially the ED's which was made even more potent with the montage.
They fit their titles well.
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u/HumourPotentiel Jan 10 '20
The episode is already out and subbed here in France, all I can say is I'm, sooooo hyped
I'm crying the wait is over
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u/fatboybigboy Jan 10 '20
Even thiugh I read the manga. Hinatas final scene made me cry some man tears. God this is why I love anime
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u/faydf Jan 10 '20
The OP is so cool and it fits well with the series. Kinda like Hikari Are's sequel somehow? The ED sounds pretty and can easily pass as an OP tbh and the lyrics fits Haikyuu well too. Shimizu looks pretty and Yachi is cute.
It was a huuuge mistake to watch that OP in a dark room on your phone though. It kept changing from dark to super bright scenes quite often my eyes kinda shook bc of how jarring it was lol especially that first part. It was too dark so I increased the brightness but then bam, hikari areeee~ or so they said. It felt like I'm trying to adjust my eyes to the lighting the entire time? It was so bright sometimes lol probably how these guys felt when they played the first match on the new court at national. Talk about that orange court tho... That very last shot, can you imagine Hinata (& orhers) wearing full orange there. Hinata will blend so well :p
Anyway the episode felt a bit... quiet. Idk how to put it. It felt like I'm watching a much more mature anime, or something from at least, 2-3 episodes in. The transition between scenes felt kinda choppy too somehow at times. There are places where I felt like, it's good if they put some sound effects or OST here... but they didn't. It felt a lot more subdued somehow? They tried to keep certain pace for the anime to end at that part too I guess.
But damn, for a first episode it still attacked me emotionally. I've read this particular arc so many time already bc I love it I thought I knew what to expect but tbh, the anime really hits me differently. Like Hinata's emotions resonate 10x stronger than the manga. Somehow his parts actually seemed way... sadder(?). Like they don't even have to show his face, just, that clenched fist after Washijo said he's not worthy without Kageyama, the way his face kept being hidden by his floofy hair sometimes, or those times we just saw his back, and his voice... Murase Ayumu really killed it with the emotions. Then we have OST that fits well too in those scene it's this kind of things that hits your heart even more..
And can you believe watching salty Washijo again here left me giddy and excited. If it's not for his latest development in the manga I would probably be cursing ar him at some points bc he really gave away mixed signs in this arc lmao.
Anyway. While I kinda like the new design, it's still so weird seeing the new, cuter, animation styles despite them being closer to the manga style though. Especially Kageyama and Hinata. And Yamaguchi. Those hairs... Need time to get use to it. Also Ukai's voice.
Haven't get time to watch the OVA yet rn but I'm keeping my expectations kinda low on that one bc of the reports I'd read after the pre-screening lol.
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u/gabstaria Jan 11 '20
wahhhhh I am so sad how much they trimmed from fukurodani 😭😭🥺🥺 the wisdom of the ace shirt was very botched imo
but tbh just seeing them all after so many years is good 😭😭
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u/UnPhayzable Jan 11 '20
They cut down on the Nekoma matches a bit too much for my own liking, but at least it looked good. Especially that last Bokuto spike. Bonus points for the fire opening
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u/gabsterini Jan 11 '20
I was really looking forward to the OVAs because of how in depth the characters were depicted in the manga. Kind of disappointed that it was basically a summary of what happened and that it left out a lot of details (especially with the Nohebi match) :(
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u/Kalluto_san Jan 11 '20
I really enjoyed the OVA, but the matches were way too short. Seriously, I wanted to see them arguing with the referee in the Nohebi against match. They only showed once Nohebi cheating, while in the manga it was way more evident that those snakes were actually controlling the referee. Also, no Alisa little speech and no Kuroo saying Nice serve, nice serve :( but anyways, besides those little things, the OVA was great. Akaashi is so cool, and Bokuto got his time to shine.
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u/gabstaria Jan 11 '20
I don't think the ovas were bad but I def don't think they were GOOD like maybe I am spoiled bc I watched the Tokyo Stageplay Battle but this is one of my favorite mini arcs and its just. done no justice here.
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u/nefelegereta Jan 11 '20
Watching the episode I felt like something was a bit off. Then I read that the director and assistant director aren't the same. Well, I don't mind. In fact I liked how this episode felt more... restrained? Or maybe it would have been the same with the original staff because these chapters in the manga aren't exactly happy. However, I think the anime made me feel Hinata's feelings of frustration, anger and humiliation more. It was the combination of that track that started playing when Kageyama told him he was going on ahead, Hinata ignoring Yamaguchi and Tsukishima, then the cycling scene and lastly the moment when Washijou tells him that without Kageyama he has no value as a player, followed by several cuts of Hinata where we don't see his face. All in all, very different from the previous season premieres.
I like the new character designs. Using the old ones would have been very jarring when I'm now so used to Furudate's current style. Also, he started changing his art somewhere during Shiratorizawa's match, if I remember right. I hope the animators have an easier time with these designs.
Funny how Hinata supposedly looks younger and yet during this episode he felt older. I don't know if it was Murase using a lower voice most of the time, or the fact that this is when Hinata really starts developing into his own.
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u/maryamperson Jan 11 '20
I never liked the idea of neko vs fukuro to be in an ova, as in separate from the main arc. It feels like it was sidelined to non importance. But i get why it needs to be not in s4 so as to not break the pacing of hinata and karasuno, our actual main protagonists
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u/owllog Jan 12 '20
In terms of the new art style, since it's closer to the manga art style (also changed) I actually love it tbh. The ova clearly took a blow in quality to accommodate the episode, so maybe this 4th season will have some nice stuff in store!
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Jan 10 '20
The opening is def my favourite. I think I was more excited for it than the episode itself 😭 Fantastic episode, glad to see Hypekyu back in action on our screens. And this animation looks fire goddamn! I get depressed every time I remember this is split cour tho
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u/dincyx Jan 11 '20
The Owl vs Cat match in the manga was one of my favorite matches so I'm pretty disappointed that it was cut down so much but I guess it was to be expected since if they were going to make the qualifiers only 2 episodes. But S04E01 was great, looking forward to the rest of the season. I sure hope they don't cut down any great moments that we had in the manga in order to compress everything into 25 episodes.
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u/jns701 Jan 11 '20
A bit sad that the OVA for the Tokyo games were shortened but it's always nice seeing Fukurodani in action. That Bokuto cross was really nice.
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u/Dnanike1 Jan 11 '20
OVAs were reallllyyyy cut down. I really hope season 4 wont crunch up chapters like that.
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u/sakura_041888 Jan 11 '20
I thought I was the only one who was genuinely disappointed with how short the OVAs were and how much material they had left out. In my mind I kept remembering and comparing it to the stage play version (Tokyo no Jin, which is by far my favorite Haisute) and I even had to reread the manga to double check my suspicions. I really loved that scene where Akaashi asked Bokuto if he has recovered from his slump (and the latter just puffing out his chest with pride and renewed confidence), and I’m just sad it wasn’t shown at all.
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Jan 11 '20
How many chapters got adapted for episode 1? Trying to figure out where the anime will end for season 4
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u/dollyl Jan 12 '20
3 chapters, 207 to 209
i have an anime to chapter list here if you want to see how many chapters they adapted for the previous episodes
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u/dentsuya Jan 11 '20
Wait, is land Vs sky already out? Where I can watch it?
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u/AvrieAvery Jan 11 '20
I’m really sorry if somebody already asked this. And I def don’t want to be asking for info about illegal sources. BUT (lol I jus negated the first 2 statements 😉)ppl keep talking about the OVAs. I heard they not out until Jan 22nd, how y’all find ‘em 🥺? I wanna see them too 😭! Thankyuu for any info 🥰
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 12 '20
It's kinda silly to say that people shouldn't be criticising them, imo. Even if they were amazing, there's no reason that people shouldn't criticise them.
But I'd also disagree that they were "good enough". Personally, I felt like they were straight up terrible. The issues go beyond "some flaws and stuff".
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 12 '20
"We can't do anything about it" isn't really a great reason to say that something shouldn't be criticised. By that logic, you'd never be able to criticise any piece of media. It's true that all we can really do is accept it, but that doesn't mean we have to like it or should suppress our dissatisfaction with what we feel was poorly made.
IMO, this is already "straight up disappointing", in the same way having substantial material removed from the "main story" would be.
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u/27eggs Jan 13 '20
i love the new style! i thought the old style made a lot of the animation scenes too heavy for volleyball. i think rallying looks better/closer to what an actual volleyball match would look like now. however, serves & spikes feel a little bit less powerful atm. I hope that was just an ova rush and doesn't speak to how the season will go..
I was disappointed in how cut down the matches were, but that was expected with 2 episodes. as a huge fukurodani fan, i was BUMMED about the owls being the less important match, but seeing as Daisho more or less narrates pieces of the spring high, i guess it makes sense that we would see a bit more of him.
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u/Raj2343 Jan 13 '20
I was hyped when i heard that the tokyo qualifiers were being animated. Other guys in Fukurodani like Konoha and Saruki were actually prominent in the manga and they were shown to be cool. Even Fukunaga in the second match was highlighted and his trajectory changing spikes were awesome. I'm just sad that these things won't be shown to anime onlys and they'll never know how cool these players are.
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u/Blue_Avenue_Kitten Jan 13 '20
Episode 1 was really good, although the animation is going to take some getting used to for me. I love the opening though; Burnout Syndromes is killing it with the Haikyuu openings!
“Did he include furigana so Kageyama could read the kanji?” Right after the shot of Kageyama struggling to get to the right place had me dead tbh.
And the OVAs... kinda disappointed in those, since the Tokyo qualifiers was one of my favorite arcs, but... I think enough has been said about them. (Although, did the actual volleyball matches seem disjointed in terms of the animation, or was that just me?)
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u/SefiaUmi Jan 14 '20
Slightly late, but lemme say, that frame in the new OP is an incredible foreshadowing for things to come, and damn, I'm already hyped for that match already as early as now (very likely that it would follow S3's route). I also have a feeling that some key frames in the OVA will be used on the focal points in the regular season since those are pretty clean. Kinda sad that Tokyo Qualifiers are too condensed, though, but I like the decision to air them simultaneously since it's pretty logical.
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u/ChilliWithFries Jan 15 '20
Hi I'm anime only but I wanna read the episodes covered by the OVA as I heard a lot has been cut out. Anyone know the exact chapters?
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 15 '20
Chapters 190-206 will take you through the entirety of the Tokyo Qualifiers.
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u/ZGiSH Jan 11 '20
Treatment of the teams in the OVA and in Ep 1 kinda reinforce my feelings on the last arc. Feels like the other characters and teams are just being quickly swept to the side as opposed to how it felt in the earlier seasons. Hinata doesn't even start off with his usual monologue.
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u/alexismarg Jan 13 '20
I miss that monologue, but I also can see why it wouldn’t fit at the start of this episode. Hinata isn’t really climbing any walls at the very beginning, nationals is quite far away and there’s nothing he needs to conquer in the immediate future.
Thinking about that, I actually would’ve liked to see it superimposed on Hinata’s bike ride through the snow, just after he finds out Kags and Tsukki were all invited to camp and he wasn’t. Would’ve been a nice way to get that monologue in & would’ve fit really well with the moment.
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u/Nenar_ Jan 10 '20
I'm so glad I could fully enjoy everything after feeling disappointed with the manga for the last couple of chapters. I was worried but this anime season is gonna be great and I am ready to enjoy every bit of it.
About the OVAs, I need that song that plays during the credits, that was also on the previews. Loved the eye catchers too. But the story is too compressed and the animation is a bit rough. I was expecting that. I'll go see what the anime-only people thought of it.
The first episode was awesome! Loved the OP and ED. That image of Hinata standing against the lights brings back the little giant and the first OP. I got goosebumps! The animation looks good and I personally love the new character design. It was a great start!
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u/kaghaeyama Jan 11 '20
so based on ep 1...
cour 1 is really just the training arc and would probably end with Kageyama' recrowning moments as King...
cour 2 will probably have Tsubakihara and Inarizaki....
but if its going to be 12 to 13 eps each.. i felt like cour 2 would be super rush.. especially the match with Tsubakihara since they still need to intro the nationals opening etc...
or they are going to end cour 1 with hinata meeting hoshiumi????????
i just hope they dont cut too much match scenes because nationals are dope!!! even Tsubakihara's... and especially inarizaki's...
its still so hard to predict on how they'll end s4...
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u/crabapocalypse Jan 11 '20
Cour 1 is probably going to at least cover the Tsubakihara match, judging by Iwamuro showing up in the OP. If I had to guess, I'd say the first cour will probably end with the start of day 2, maybe with a bit of hyping up Inarizaki.
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u/karlamsloki Jan 11 '20
The Haikyuu wikia tells me there's 20 more chapters (not counting this episode) before the start of Nationals, this chapter covered 3 chapters, if this holds we would have 8 episodes before the beginning of Nationals so 4 or 5 episodes for the Tsubakihara match which is only 9 chapters so it's doable. This is of course based purely on numbers instead of the content of the chapters so I might be completely off.
I can see them sacrificing some of the Date Tech training match (if it comes to that) to make sure we finish on the Tsibakihara match because I feel like that makes sense.
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u/lithiumflwr Jan 11 '20
The season didnt begin with the key phrase of the series about the huge wall and this is completely dissapointing me
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u/hassanlogic Jan 10 '20
Man oh man. They really really really cut down the fukurodani match significantly. It’s shame because how many great moments that match had. I’m kinda extremely bummed that they didn’t do it justice. They basically did a summary. That match really showed how good bokuto is and that he isn’t just a gag character who happens to be a top 5 ace. cats vs owls was one of my favorite manga matches. Because it also shows how much Nekoma defence drags you down. I’m very disappointed. I’m not sure why they could not have just made a third episode and do both matches properly.