r/gunpolitics Jul 19 '25

Question Should the Hughes Amendment be repealed? (DISCUSSION)

As someone who enjoys the 2nd Amendment and is an advocate for it, I found myself thinking about the implications that honest-to-god machine guns would have on public safety.

I know that's quite rich and that this concern has been brought up a lot in the past to stifle the rights of gun owners. Still, I really do worry that machine guns, particularly full-power rifle cartridge machine guns like the PKM and M240, being cheaper and more available to purchase for bad actors, could cause catastrophic damage to the public and LEOs.

Semi-automatic weapons require reloading, and there's a realistic cap on their fire rate due to that necessity. Even if someone has an FRT or Bump Stock, the gun's effective rate of fire is nowhere near its theoretical cyclic rate.

In contrast, dedicated machine guns have a higher capacity for ammunition with belts, which means they can sustain their firepower for longer. Additionally, they fire much more powerful cartridges.

7.62x54R and 7.62x51 are not intermediate by any means. They are capable of penetrating body armour and can pass through multiple human bodies with ease.

Imagine a hostage situation where LEO has to storm an entrenched PKM nest or a guy setting up an M240 and hella belts of ammunition in a kill zone like the 2017 Las Vegas Shooting.

It would be disastrous.

So I want to hear what your thoughts are on allowing machine guns to be in circulation once again. Is it worth the risk we take as a people, or should some category of weapons stay off-limits to a vast majority of the general public?

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u/Ponklemoose Jul 19 '25

In the real world an MG is hard to keep on target, and even harder in a rifle caliber. If I had to get in a gun fight with the average street criminal I'd rather they dump their ammo into the sky is a sec or two.

We all know that people who can afford to drop $10k on a nice MG and at least another $10k learning to shoot it well aren't out doing crimes. They are too busy doing whatever gives them that kind of disposable income and the fun shit that kind of income allows. They also recognize that the possible rewards of violent crimes don't offset the risks of getting shot, going to jail and losing that sweet income.