r/facepalm Jan 27 '22

🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​ Protesting with a “choose adoption” sign

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u/Not_l0st Jan 27 '22

My cousin wanted to adopt and all my aunts (who look exactly like these women) were so against it. "It's not the same" "they come with problems" "they will take away from your own children"

These women would never consider adoption.

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u/voarex Jan 27 '22

I'm fostering to adopt two children and at the start my parents didn't even send birthday cards. They are slowly coming around but it is a shame seeing people that think life is so precious then are unwilling to help unless it benefits them.

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u/mypetocean Jan 27 '22 edited Jan 27 '22

Exactly right. I knew I wanted to adopt ever since I was a little boy. And for like fifteen years every single time I brought up the idea around family, I got criticism about it and complaints that they won't carry "our blood."

I got to the point where I would ask them, "What matters more, the blood or the soul?" and because they claim to be Christian, they'd inevitably have to concede, "Well, the soul."

Then I'd point out that blood doesn't matter unless they believe in evolution anyway, so this idea of passing on the blood is an animal and "worldly" idea, not a spiritual one.

Sometimes you have to use their language to convey your message.

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u/Heykevinlook Jan 27 '22

Nice!

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u/dsrmpt Jan 27 '22

While it is nice, it is also a pain in the ass and takes a super long time.

I took an hour and a half to convince a relative that rural Republicans in California are just as underrepresented as urban Democrats in Texas, even though they each make up 49.999 percent of each state's population, and that the opposite party controlling the legislature is inherently unable to represent their interests.

The Texas Republicans don't represent the urban Democrats interests, and the California Democrats don't represent the rural Republicans interests. It is a systemic issue that you only need 50% to win, but have authority over 100%.

They thought Republicans were the magic sauce to making everyone happy.

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u/mypetocean Jan 28 '22

90 minutes seems like a worthy investment. Long-term change is going to require ongoing, lifelong investment by those of us who care.

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u/LindenStream Jan 27 '22

Also assuming adopted kids and their bio parents are inherently stupid.

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u/MistraloysiusMithrax Jan 28 '22

“Yes Mom, that’s exactly right. Thank you so much for sharing another reason to adopt!”

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u/MarsNirgal Jan 27 '22

So where did you get your smarts from, huh? Because it doesn't sound it was from her...

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u/Cynster2002 Jan 27 '22

I’m sure her parents were highly disappointed. If you want to adopt…DO IT! Don’t ever let anyone tell you what makes YOUR family.

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u/WhenwasyourlastBM Jan 27 '22

I'd love for someone to let me come back at this question.

Why is our blood special? Is it the history of depression? Alcoholism? Addiction? Schizophrenia? Cancer? OCD? Anxiety? NPD? Epilepsy? Debilitating migraines? At least some woman out there was smart enough to understand her limits and put her kid up for adoption. Those genes can't be that bad. And the kid already exist! I want my mom's genes to end with me and passing them on feels cruel.

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u/MarsNirgal Jan 27 '22

This is just BEAUTIFUL.

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u/optimus314159 Jan 27 '22

Actually, in the Christian Bible, bloodlines matter a LOT. That’s why huge chunks of the Old Testament articulate so and so, son of so and so, etc.

Matthew and Luke even claimed that Jesus was a descendant of King David.

Many Jewish people are also very adamant that their bloodline matters.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/new-testament-studies/article/abs/jesus-davidic-lineage-and-the-case-for-jewish-adoption/92B32A053628FD94923EA24871CCBC2C

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u/mypetocean Jan 27 '22

Today's Christians don't put much theological weight behind bloodlines. Of course Hebrew culture and Judaism would. But those are different demographics.

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u/Great_Hamster Jan 27 '22

I don't know if that's correct about the blood not mattering unless you believe in evolution. The Bible absolutely cares about lineage, to the point where there are books mostly filled with who's descended from whom.

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u/mypetocean Jan 27 '22

Modern Christian denominations don't care about bloodlines, except for some very small sects. Of course, historic Judaism and Hebrew culture would, but they are not the same as modern Christianity.

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u/Brilliant_Muffin2733 Jan 27 '22

Did you end up adopting and they came around?

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u/mypetocean Jan 27 '22

We're now sixth on the adoption list for the only agency we finally trust.