r/exlldm Feb 09 '26

Discussion / Discusion Dear IRS: Alma Joaquín — can a nonprofit pay a non-worker?

26 Upvotes

I’m going to say this plainly, because this isn’t gossip—it’s about how the institution operates.

In LLDM, a “gómer” (what they call the pay given to “ministers” in the U.S.) is supposed to be tied to work: preaching, administration, pastoral care, responsibilities, accountability. Many of us were pressured to give because we were told our offerings were “for the ministry” and “for the work.”

But what happens when someone is on payroll and doesn’t work?

That’s why I’m bringing up ALMA JOAQUÍN.

A source with insider access connected to Naasón’s legal circle has told me Alma does not preach and does not perform administrative or ministry work for LLDM, yet she reportedly still receives a gómer/salary in the U.S. On top of that, I’ve been told her travel and expenses are covered, specifically through jurisdictions led by Silverio Coronado and José Hernández.

If that’s true, then from the outside it looks like what it is:

PAYROLL FRAUD—or at minimum, a serious abuse of nonprofit funds.

Because in any normal organization, paying someone a salary (plus travel/expenses) without real duties, supervision, deliverables, or transparency is a massive red flag. And for those of us who were members, it hits hard for one reason:

We were fooled into giving thinking it was for ministry—while it increasingly looks like it was used for the benefit and profit of leadership, especially Naasón and his wife Alma, while members were guilted into “sacrifice” and told not to ask questions.

Don’t believe me? Ask the attorneys Giovanni Chacón and Alva Monsalvo. If anyone knows how these payments and “justifications” are handled internally, it’s the lawyers who are deep in that world.

Dear IRS (and regulators): please investigate arrangements like this.

IRS reporting options (if you want to report suspected nonprofit abuse)

  • IRS Form 13909 — Tax-Exempt Organization Complaint (Referral) (commonly used to report issues involving tax-exempt orgs)
  • IRS Form 3949-A — Information Referral (to report suspected tax law violations)

r/exlldm Feb 09 '26

Discussion / Discusion Querido IRS: Alma Joaquín — ¿puede un nonprofit pagar a alguien que no trabaja?

19 Upvotes

Voy a decirlo claro, porque esto no es chisme: es cómo opera la institución.

En LLDM, el “gómer” (el pago que dan a “ministros” en EE. UU.) se supone que está ligado al trabajo: predicar, administrar, atender pastoralmente, asumir responsabilidades, rendir cuentas. A muchos de nosotros nos presionaron para dar porque nos dijeron que era “para el ministerio” y “para la obra”.

Pero… ¿qué pasa cuando alguien está en nómina y no trabaja?

Por eso menciono a ALMA JOAQUÍN.

Una fuente con acceso interno vinculada al círculo legal de Naasón me afirma que Alma no predica y no realiza trabajo administrativo ni ministerial para LLDM, y aun así recibe pago/gómer en EE. UU. Además, me dicen que sus gastos y viajes también se cubren, específicamente desde jurisdicciones dirigidas por Silverio Coronado y José Hernández.

Si esto es cierto, desde fuera se ve como lo que parece:

esto huele a fraude de nómina (“payroll fraud”) o, mínimo, abuso grave de fondos de una organización sin fines de lucro.

Porque en cualquier organización seria, pagar salario (y encima viajes/gastos) a alguien sin funciones reales, sin supervisión, sin entregables y sin transparencia es una bandera roja enorme. Y para quienes fuimos miembros, pega por una razón:

Nos engañaron para dar creyendo que era para el ministerio… mientras cada vez más parece que se usó para el beneficio y la ganancia de la cúpula, incluyendo a Naasón y su esposa, mientras a los miembros se nos pedía “sacrificio” y se nos decía que no hiciéramos preguntas.

¿No me creen? Pregúntenle a los abogados Giovanni Chacón y Alva Monsalvo. Si alguien sabe cómo se manejan estos pagos y “justificaciones” internamente, son los abogados que están metidos en ese mundo.

Dear IRS (y reguladores): por favor investiguen arreglos como este.

Opciones para reportar al IRS (si alguien quiere denunciar)

  • IRS Form 13909 — Tax-Exempt Organization Complaint (Referral) (para reportar problemas con organizaciones exentas)
  • IRS Form 3949-A — Information Referral (para reportar posibles violaciones a leyes fiscales)

r/exlldm 7h ago

Leak / Filtrado Asi es como Nikolas Menchaca ofrece a los miembros de su iglesia como votos para el futuro candidato de Nayarit.

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Nicolás Manchaca, integrante del consejo de obispos de la Luz del Mundo, ha comenzado a organizar actos disfrazados de actividades religiosas o sociales que, en realidad, parecen encaminados a posicionar y favorecer a determinados aspirantes a la gubernatura de Nayarit.

Cada vez resulta más evidente el intento de utilizar a la iglesia como un bloque de voto negociable para obtener influencia y poder político, desdibujando la necesaria separación entre la fe y los intereses partidistas.

A los líderes de la iglesia se les olvidó que su papel es servir a la iglesia, y no servirse de ella.


r/exlldm 17h ago

Criticism / Critica No recuerdo a Favio Castellanos, co-fundador del nuevo partido humanista defendiendo a Naason con la misma pasion con la que ahora grita como ridículo y defiende a su nueva mesías, Claudia. Éstos descarados si que solo buscan servirse de la iglesia

9 Upvotes

Es curioso ver con qué pasión Fabio Castellanos defiende hoy a Claudia desde la tribuna, mientras que esa misma energía nunca apareció cuando se trató de defender a Naason.

También resulta llamativo cómo cada vez habla menos de la iglesia, a pesar de que buena parte de su proyecto político se construyó gracias al respaldo de sus miembros.

Las asambleas que permitieron recabar firmas para el registro del partido fueron organizadas por Rogelio Zamora, aprovechando su posición como obispo y convocando reuniones disfrazadas de "encuentros de profesionistas", donde aprovechaban para solicitar las firmas necesarias.


r/exlldm 2d ago

Leak / Filtrado Piensan utilizar la Universidad Samaan de Jalisco como Casa Enlace para el nuevo partido político de La Luz del Mundo.

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8 Upvotes

r/exlldm 2d ago

Discussion / Discusion A NADIE LE IMPORTA NAASON YA, EL MOVIMIENTO DE ROGELIO ZAMORA AVANZA. INE APRUEBA REGISTRO DE PARTIDO POLITICO, LO UNICO QUE REALMENTE LE IMPORTA A LOS LIDERES ACTUALES DE LA IGLESIA

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r/exlldm 5d ago

Positivity / Positividad Wanted to share this gem with you

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"The things that I've loved, things that I've lost

Things I've held sacred that I've dropped

I won't lie no more you can bet

I don't wanna learn what I'll need to forget"

Its a blessing how music can translate what you feel and put it in words for everyone to understand.


r/exlldm 6d ago

Discussion / Discusion Cuantos apóstoles de Dios se necesitan para evangelizar una cárcel? 🤔

12 Upvotes

La verdad que la última vez que escuché que nasón predicaba en la cárcel fue con "El Ruso" quien se doblegó ante su presencia y juró protegerlo ahí dentro....

Después se supo que no existió nunca alguien de origen ruso en esa cárcel y dejaron de inventar cuentos de ese tipo....

Tanto que les decían que fueran hasta el último de los rincones a predicar la palabra del señor y Joaquín no sale de su celda porque le hacen ver su suerte 🐍


r/exlldm 8d ago

Help / Ayuda Tengo muchas dudas

22 Upvotes

Alguien que tenga evidencia contundente que pueda quitarme por completo la venda de los ojos porfavor


r/exlldm 8d ago

Resources / Recursos Looking for the most recent documents in Naason's federal case? Alma Libre and Rogelio got you covered

29 Upvotes

Hello, everyone!

I just wanted to share with you that there's a great YouTube channel that's regularly posting the latest filings and transcripts from Naason Joaquin's federal criminal case in the SDNY along with automatic translations in the interest of expediency. Both Alma Libre and Rogelio are former members of La Luz del Mundo and they discuss the documents in English and Spanish with some commentary. I believe they're doing a terrific job and more people should be aware of their content, so please share the videos that you find helpful.

Also remember to check the docket of the case every once in a while because some filings are free to download, like most recently, the opposition by the federal prosecutors to the defense's motion to disclose the grand jury transcripts.

Kind regards,

V. B.


r/exlldm 15d ago

Discussion / Discusion Strangest doctrine beliefs?

24 Upvotes

It’s no secret that LLDM has had some wild teachings throughout its 100 year history. Many (virtually, all of them) are completely unbiblical, even though LLDM claims that they live strictly by the guidelines of the bible.

For example, the idea that children born out of wedlock (unwed parents) will go to hell for their parents sin, unless the child gets baptized at 14 years old.
In the comment, elaborate more about what you know about this teaching, since I’m that informed on it.

What are some other practices and beliefs that are completely foreign to Christian history and scripture?


r/exlldm 16d ago

Help / Ayuda Jóvenes

25 Upvotes

I heard from my nephews that they're getting ready to attend a youth event at a ranch in California for Memorial Day. It's for YOUNG PEOPLE ONLY!! Do you know what that means? Young boys and girls without their parents on a ranch? Where can we report this? Let's prevent the danger these kids are being put in.


r/exlldm 17d ago

Personal LLDM women

7 Upvotes

Are LLDM women desperate for attention & are they secretly promiscuous? My partner had an ex gf in highschool whom they “lost their virginity” to each other. Mind you he’s not LLDM, just a random classmate. They kept their relationship a secret because the ex said people at church will find out and she will get in trouble yada yada yada. Then, she tells him she’s pregnant and they should run away. Then months later, said she lost the baby, cries hard, dad finds out her relationship and beats her up and forces her into arrange marriage for some dude’s green card. Told my partner then that she will come back for him in a year. She emailed him and they kept in contact with each other for over 13 years. They went on little dates but never did anything intimate throughout the years because she said she knows too many people from her church and they will see her. Partner expressed many times he wanted to try again but she never gave him a definitive answer but rather lead him on. Talking about how she’s seeing her neighbour and they hit it up every now and then. And it goes on and on. The leading on and never serious with him. Says things that she’s so busy with her nephews that she prioritizes them. When it’s making time for each other, it has to be within her availability and her say. Such a toxic relationship x friendship. Anyway, fast forward, my partner and I made it official, she found out and starts saying things to him that now that my partner is in a relationship, she wants to finally have sex with him again because something about it turns her on? And I was furious lol.

I was just curious what your experience with LLDm women are?

I told my partner she sounds like she lied to you throughout all those years and was emotionally manipulating you & the fact that she lead you on all those years? She just wanted someone she can run back to once her life is boring again then leaves when something pops up lol

I reminded him: you weren’t in love, you were trauma-bonded lol.

PS she looks like a monkey but she has money (daddy’s 🤑)


r/exlldm 19d ago

Discussion / Discusion New York

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r/exlldm 21d ago

Help / Ayuda Help

13 Upvotes

Im an outsider. My lldm boyfriend wants me to meet with his church minister so he can adress “my doubts”. Help me find ways to debunk their arguments for Naason being chosen by god. I’m in a very tricky situation I don’t feel comfortable disclosing yet. It’s not as easy as “just leave the cult member and find a new guy”


r/exlldm 22d ago

Criticism / Critica Hypocrisy in LLDM

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(Hypocrisy within LLDM and it's leader? Who would've guessed?)

Outside of the fact that nearly every "good" value taught by Naason and the LLDM Church can be found in other religions, there's also the problem that the values themselves are not followed by the very people that teach it. Consider the last Apostolic Letter read to the Church on May 7th, 2026:

"Most people seek happiness in material possessions, which can never fill the void of the heart ... [I]f the heart is inclined to material things, it will choose paths that will satisfy temporal urges ... The unrighteous seek security in physical things, through their wealth, their achievements, or their strength, but all these things are unstable."

The lesson that someone can never be fulfilled by material riches is a tale as old as time. The irony of this, however, is that this is coming from the same guy hiding behind million dollar lawyers and the funds donated by his many well-meaning followers.

Even before the legal case, it was already common knowledge that the Joaquin Family owns millions of dollars in luxury homes and ranches in Texas and California. But of course, this was justified because the Apostle needed his "rest". And now, members are raising millions to pay for Naason's attorneys. He is, quite literally, seeking security through material wealth and status.

"Some ask me, why do you always look cheerful? ... It is a manifestation of what God has placed within my heart!"

I'm not even kidding when I say that this man's face has been fixed on a permanent scowl ever since he was arrested. He has not looked cheerful in the slightest in any picture, courtroom sketch, or recording. That is expected, of course, but that only makes me wonder why he wants to portray himself as cheerful and joyous all of a sudden.

"Concerning my accusers and my anguishers, I have not the slightest negative feeling, there is no spirit of vengeance in my heart, nor spirit of reproach! God will take care of it. He, in his perfect justice, will know how to resolve everything."

Is that so? Naason didn't even bother to look at his accusers at the state sentencing hearing, or even acknowledge them at all when they spoke directly to him. Even Alan Jackson at least turned around to hear them.

Also, would Naason see a potential life sentence as "perfect justice" by God? If this eventually happens, I'm sure members will attempt to draw parallels to biblical figures who were unjustly imprisoned, while completely ignoring those who God allowed to suffer due to their own actions. Even the Apostle Peter was rebuked for his actions in a letter that LLDM considers divine revelation. But of course, the Church will throw all this under the rug to fuel the persecution narrative.

"Today, you have to pass to insist on pursuing an earthly happiness that always dissipates, or to enter the happiness of God, which endures forever. That decision will always be personal."

This doesn't seem like a bad teaching, but in LLDM being faithful to God automatically means being faithful to Naason and not questioning him. You either obey Naason or follow your own sinful desires. LLDM does not acknowledge the billions of other religious people who live moral lives without following Naason's teachings.

Overall, even if the moral teachings in LLDM were unique or divinely revealed (which they aren't), they would still be outweighed by the hypocritical leadership who don't follow them. LLDM loves to place Naason on a pedestal as an "exemplary" life, but the truth very quickly becomes self evident.


r/exlldm 22d ago

Personal ex members - hello!

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so I left the church in 2019, and I was coming here for support. I felt like many of the people who I spoke to were just leaving too, so it was hard to keep communication since we basically had a new life to explore. I was 18, I’m in high school, I got kicked out my house and had to figure it out from there.

Long story short, I am now 25, I have a successful career in the fashion/art industry. Im a huge spiritualist and love it. I’ve been going to therapy for over a year now and healing the church side of things. Really big and positive changes if I’m honest.

I want to come here and ask if there’s anyone who’s somewhere in the same boat. Ex member from LLDM, Heavy into spirituality and has a career somewhere in the entertainment/art field. I feel like I have no one to really talk to and relate.

I really just want to connect with like minded individuals and just talk about our experiences. Telling people I was in a cult and them reacting to me like I’m some lab monkey or poking fun at it sucks so much. Really just want a friend. PM if this is you, I’d love to make some new friends!!!


r/exlldm 23d ago

Question / Pregunta Isolated, grieving, wanting to move on from this cult.

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I finally spoke about my doubts just to be shunned by my family. I already was not a social person but not being able to speak them is really isolating. Yesterday a friend asked me if I needed a ride for church. I wouldn't be surprised if the minister's wife asked her to text me that. After years of swearing you know someone is innocent and that they love you, you finally realized that you never knew who this person is. Like what was I thinking? I don't even know this guy's favorite food or color. Being born in this cult programs and conditions you making it hard to restart your life out of it. Getting out has made me realize how coercive, pressuring, controlling, sexist they are. Gives you a sense of loss and hard to trust any church. I wish I could get my family out of there but you can't help someone who doesn't want it.

For those who left high control religions or LLDM specifically, what helped your mental health when you didn’t have health insurance or access to therapy?

Has anyone had any success helping a family member realize?


r/exlldm 24d ago

Help / Ayuda La Obra

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Yo no se porque La Luz del mundo sigue mandando obreros?! cuando mandan a obreros Que solo Le hacen la vida imposible a otros obreros. Yo tristemente me apunte ala obra y conocí a varios obreros y obreros que desde el 2016 mando el Apostol ala obra que se querian suicidar adentro de la obra por el BULLYING que causan mo importando la situacion.

Aun si ellos fueron forzados de ir o no ir. No importa porque se supone que los invito el apostol a ayudar. no a Que los obreros sean desanimados y querer quitarse la vida. O que los hermanitos Causen tanto bullying que se cortaban

Si hay obreros que fueron forzados no es culpa de ellos y es poca humanidad Que tus propios hermanos en cristo te pregunte porque razon beniste ala obra? sino animarlos mas pero no con aggression.

cuando todos tuvimos la Invitacion de un Apostol

No de estar averiguando porque razon veniste y porque veniste ?

El apostol no mando a obreros para averiguar para Que fuiste ? Si de seguro ellos mismos están haciendo peor Que tu y se sienten bien santos con las porquerias Que ellos mismos hacen y no saben la mayor idea Que causa el bullying

pero eso no predicate

alos que pecan los dejan quedarse en la obra porque tienen “buen” testimonio no importa que grande sea su pecado

y no importa que sea Que se esten besando con todos los obreros y andando en secreto noviando

porque te amenazan para tenrte Callado !

y no dejan hablar alos obreros que fueron AFECTADOS por el bullying y prefieren porque como no convives y te da miedo convivir te sacan de la obra porque tuviste el miedo de hablar con el diacono que cuida del grupo o ministro etc… que prefieren sacarta por estar triste y desanimada

no les importa saber Que deberas paso y porque no quieren darle tristeza al apostol que es mejor que te saquen para no tenerle malas noticias que sus obreros son una PORQUERIA

TIENEN QUE DEJAR DE MANDAR A OBREROS


r/exlldm 24d ago

Criticism / Critica Claudia Sheinbaum, La Luz del mundo y el socialismo.

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Tanto Claudia Sheinbaum al defender a Rubén Rocha Moya, como La Luz del Mundo al defender a Naasón Joaquín García, recurren a una lógica parecida: presentar las acusaciones como ataques externos motivados políticamente o por intereses ocultos mientras se pide lealtad al líder antes que un examen crítico de los hechos

Es el mismo mecanismo discursivo: convertir la duda o la investigación en una agresión contra "el movimiento", "el pueblo" o "la fe". Cuando una figura pública es defendida más por identidad y fidelidad que por evidencia verificable, el debate deja de centrarse en la verdad y empieza a girar alrededor de proteger al grupo y a su liderazgo.

La luz del mundo es un movimiento socialista rígido, comparten una lógica peligrosa: convertir la lealtad al líder y a la narrativa oficial en algo más importante que la verdad o el pensamiento crítico. En ambos casos, cuestionar al liderazgo suele verse como traición, los errores se justifican "por una Causa mayor" y se crea una división entre los fieles y los enemigos. El problema no es solo la ideología política o la religión, sino cuando una estructura exige obediencia absoluta y termina funcionando más coma un sistema de control que como una búsqueda genuina de justicia o verdad.


r/exlldm 25d ago

Personal Any peeps from Brooklyn in here?

20 Upvotes

I just discovered this reddit. Are any of the brooklyn originals around here? And im talking about the generation of us who were kids/teens growing up going to Central Ave. way before the building was taken down. (Noe Lugo, Lee Minnemann days etc) You can DM me if you would prefer to talk privately. I left church a while ago but throughout my adult life i have wondered about yall. Friends or not growing up if you guys are reading this and also left or still in i really hope you are all doing good in life. Id love to hear from you if you’re on here. It was so few of us in that age and time that i can almost remember all of your faces back in those days. If you are still in or not, no disrespect or hard feelings, id just would love to talk to some of you and reconnect in a way.


r/exlldm 25d ago

Help / Ayuda Última moción de naason

9 Upvotes

‼️Busco ‼️quien tenga la última moción que presentó la defensa de naason
Inglés o español o de preferencial ambas


r/exlldm 27d ago

Discussion / Discusion Venta con causaaaaa

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18 Upvotes

Salió buena la Nava para recaudar fondos para el ped*filo….ahora para todo tienen una causa…no que los abogados eran falsos y que no se que tanto pedo? Ahora resulta que les quieren dar hasta el último cinco de los hermanos…no tienen abuela.


r/exlldm 28d ago

Criticism / Critica Cuando la lealtad ciega supera a la decencia: Israel Zamora Guzmán

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20 Upvotes

Lo están criticando por todos lados, y aún así Israel Zamora Guzmán sigue en la misma: defendiendo lo indefendible, como ya lo hizo antes.

No es firmeza, es necedad. Se ve como alguien sin criterio propio, repitiendo lo que le conviene aunque no tenga sentido. Y lo peor es que ni parece darse cuenta de que con cada vez que habla, se hunde más.

Suicidio Político.


r/exlldm 29d ago

Criticism / Critica Sara Pozos la sanguijuela por excelencia

34 Upvotes

Imagínense qué descaro de hacer leña del árbol caído de disfrazar los intereses personales , de una causa mayor de un bien justo de una bendición Qué clase de dios es ese que exige cosas materiales a cambio de bendiciones espirituales, dale al siervo de Dios y él te recompensará, te dará más, la Consigna por excelencia de las sanguijuelas de la luz del mundo un apóstol verdadero hubiera dejado todo en manos de Dios sin pedir un céntimo a cambio, con tal de no perjudicar a la Grey pero esta sanguijuelas Incluso se aprovechan de una manera oportunista incluso del cumpleaños del supuesto apóstol para donar $57 dolares, porque 57 años cumple el susodicho. Vergüenza? algo que no conocen, sanguijuelas gusanos come carne, caníbales eso es lo que son. El dios de la luz del mundo es un dios hambriento, necesitado, mendigo limosnero.