r/exjw Larchwood 21d ago

WT Policy There's a key difference between the English version of the Norway victory article on JW org and the Norwegian version which shows they know they are lying...

In the English version of the JW org news article about the Norwegian Supreme Court ruling they say "the government violated the religious freedom of Jehovah's Witnesses when it deregistered our national legal entity."

The Norwegian version correctly says the State deregistered the religion itself.

Those are not the same thing.

The Norwegian State did NOT dissolve a JW legal corporation. It removed JW from the state registry for religious communities because of their shunning practices involving baptized minors.

Interesting that the wording is only changed in English but not Norwegian, where locals would immediately spot the deception.

Here you can see ask the announcements regarding JW legal identity. You will see there is nothing about any deregistration of JW legal identity:

https://w2.brreg.no/kunngjoring/hent_nr.jsp?orgnr=879492742

To see for yourself, go to the article on JW org (in the News section) in Norwegian, and translate the text to English.

They know that they are lying.

With thanks to Jan Frode Nilsen for this information.

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u/Appropriate_Look_171 21d ago

This is what people need to understand about this religion, for them is always about optics not about truth.

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u/fader_underground 21d ago

Bingo. On another note, if it were about Truth, they wouldn't care what governments thought of them. They'd be more concerned with getting their message out there to as many people as possible. But when their spokespeople go on TV and other media, what do they say? It's all, "Oh we're just trying to encourage people...We're not out to convert anyone." Etc. But to their members they try and act like it's some big "warning" work. WHAT warning? They aren't warning anyone with their "What is real success" and other benign cart topics.

Why? Because what they REALLY care about is their IMAGE.

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u/upturned2289 21d ago

Ever since the first “nu light” people should be aware it’s all about optics, not truth. Truth doesn’t change. Optics do.

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u/TangerinePlastic7552 21d ago

Come to think of it, all those extra large summer assemblies done in the stadiums at the hottest times of the year because the stadium wouldn’t do that to their own customers were all made to be spectacles. Great headlines.

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u/Only-Canary-7306 21d ago

JWs have always scheduled their assemblies during the heat, because it was the cheapest time slot. I remember being drenched in sweat and keeping my jacket on because of massive peer pressure. 

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u/sheenless 21d ago

Typical. They pull this same crap in Mandarin all the time.

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u/Ravenmicra 21d ago

WT are experts at lying. Probably could make Satan blush.

Thank you Larchwood and Jan. This info helps me here in Canada.

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u/SkyExpensive8375 21d ago

Hopefully governments will start to recognize a pattern with them. 90% of Norwegians speak English. 

Watchtower is not the nice, honest, loving organization they portray themselves as, but are exploitive, deceptive charlatans. 

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u/OwnCatch84 21d ago

Thanks Frode They are slimy lying snakes

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u/No-Card2735 21d ago

Once again, for the newbies, lurkers, and trolls…

…if you have to cheat to defend your beliefs, your beliefs don’t deserve to be defended.

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u/xbrocottelstonlies 21d ago

This is also the real reason why WTBTS always needs so much help in the 'translation departments' everywhere. It's not to release a world record amount of bibles in a million languages. Smoke and mirrors. It's how to pull stunts off like this in as many languages as possible. And its only going to get worse and more frequent as the csa cases mature. Notwithstanding the rest of the nonsense they spew...

Any former 'translation dept' pimo, pomos here?

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u/Useful-Internet4796 21d ago

Como siempre, distorsionado para quedar bien, hipocresía del GB

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u/Justlearningthisnow 21d ago

Wow. I really don’t like that they did it like that on purpose to hide the actual problem 😡

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u/Relative-Respond-115 Run, Elijah, run 21d ago

Nice one Larchington and thanks to Jan.

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u/TangerinePlastic7552 21d ago

When you can’t stop the news, spin the news.

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u/Rhiboflavin 21d ago

They are really adept at deception.

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u/constant_trouble 21d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/cfCLpsyQvqZaQg22gG

Always cherry picking. Even themselves. It’s so blatantly deceptive.

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u/CTR_1852 Tentatively Christian 21d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/LNMAa5P9JFBoMVHSUk

Thanks for all your hard work Larch!

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u/Justlearningthisnow 21d ago

💡Hold on! Is the lying part of theocratic war fare a 2 part thing? One part to lie to the government to keep them in the dark about what they do and Part 2 to lie to the members to keep us in the dark about the truth! 😩 this is terrible! The JW departments are there to deceive us followers too, my mind is blown. 🤯

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u/Luna-Cyborglife borg life is lunacy… 21d ago

They are very duplicitous, they tell their followers to follow NOTHING but their words and instructions , that they are THE voice of god, while telling their followers, “it would be presumptuous for us to think we were the sole spokesman for God.”

Which is it governing body?

Why didn’t Jackson tell the world what you tell your followers, GB?

Is it possible there are other people who speak for god?

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u/Temporary_Builder_63 21d ago

Habe gerade auf der deutschen Seite nachgesehen, da war tagelang ein Banner zu lesen, jetzt ist alles verschwunden! Steht überhaupt nichts zu dem Urteil. Unter Nachrichten weltweit unter Norwegen kann man das letzte Urteil von März 2025 nur noch lesen!

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u/PetraMat_ 21d ago

Lo mismo ocurre en España. No hay nada sobre el veredicto. Ha desaparecido.

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u/More_Bedroom2478 21d ago

Wordsalad.....

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u/POMOandlovinit I'm just a heathen whose intentions are good 21d ago

The Grotesque Bastards are professional bullshittters. They even do this kind of shit when translating their propaganda, like WT study articles. 😡

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u/Only-Canary-7306 21d ago

Jehovah's witnesses are waving the news in triumph, saying "we won religious freedom in Norway, yay" but in actuality it was just to stay in a registry to get free money from the state. Now satanists and other deplorable groups are able to get the state money because JWs lowered the bar so low. JWs lied and said they don't shun kids, but they do. It's a massive lie. 

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u/T-H-E_D-R-I-F-T-E-R Same as it ever was, …same as it ever was… 21d ago

THIS

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u/tayl00or2020 21d ago

Poderia dar print no trecho e colocar aqui , por favor

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u/larchington Larchwood 21d ago

“fratok trossamfunnet Jehovas vitner registreringen” =

“revoked the registration of the Jehovah’s Witnesses religious community”

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u/larchington Larchwood 21d ago

The English version they put out says this:

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u/tayl00or2020 21d ago

Obrigada, eu estava procurando a divergência no título....

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u/jwrogue1914 21d ago

This article on Watchtower's win in Norway is only available in a few languages. I don't know why Watchtower has erased that communication in others widespread languages 🤔

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u/larsandersson1998 21d ago

Check to be certain: does the state registry for religious communities also mention the legal entities because of the attached funding?

The money itself cant go to a "community" but needs a legal entity to receive it.

Delisting it in THIS registry wouldnt mean dissolving it in the regular chamber of commerce registry. Or the equivalent thereof in Norway.

This is not justifying them getting funds which is stupid but equally stupid for a lot of other religious communities imho.

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u/larchington Larchwood 21d ago

The registry the law refers to in the Norwegian case is just a register of funded religions. It has nothing to do anything else. All the legal entities are unaffected.

The only thing that is connected to this register is the matrimonial privileges

https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/2020-04-24-31/KAPITTEL_2#KAPITTEL_2

Chapter 2, §4-7

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u/larsandersson1998 21d ago

Thanks, but was wondering ... somewhere in these registers is a linking table between "religion" and "legal entity".

Its not like some public servants looks up all religions from the register and just transfers cash to a legal entity with a resembling name. There has to be a linking table. I would expect it in the register of religions itself.

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u/larchington Larchwood 21d ago

There isn’t a formal “religion to legal entity” matching table in Norwegian law.

The religious register is what determines whether a group is recognized and eligible for funding and certain legal functions, such as marriage authority under Chapter 2 §4–7 of the Act.

The legal entity register (Enhetsregisteret) is separate, and organizations continue to exist there regardless of religious recognition status.

In practice, once a religious community is recognized, the authorities use organization numbers to administer payments and operations. But that is an administrative setup for handling funds, not a legal system that merges or links the two registers in a formal one-to-one structure.

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u/larsandersson1998 21d ago

Thanks 👍👍

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u/T-H-E_D-R-I-F-T-E-R Same as it ever was, …same as it ever was… 21d ago

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u/Long-Obligation-219 21d ago

Didn’t they remove the first newsroom article that they had published about their “victory”? And now this new one is up! Does anyone have a screenshot of the first article to compare what has changed?

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u/larchington Larchwood 21d ago

They removed the initial banner announcement thing.

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u/Positive_Special_156 21d ago

Hmm weird. Polish version is correct as well

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u/feelgood72 21d ago

The things you catch !!!!

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u/Cult_Alt_Del Dishonorable Awakening 19d ago

Do the official court documents say that the government was providing funding to watchtower? It would be great to show jws that their religion receives money from Satan's system and have actual government documents to prove it when trying to explain that the borg wasn't banned but rather defunded.