r/coybig 8d ago

General Discussion Thread Which base colour suited Ireland's 2004-2023 badge on the jersey best? White or green? Keep in mind I'm talking about on the jersey and not in general.

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u/MidnightSun77 8d ago

I never understood why we got rid of the badge we had in the 90s until early 00s. It was unique and we had it for USA 94 and Japan/Korea 2002. In fact I don’t think any other FA has changed their badge as much as Ireland has in the past 35 years. Any one know why?

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u/JellyfishScared4268 8d ago

Unironically the north has the best "Ireland" crest.

1990s FAI is second because it was part of a great era.

But the one with the celtic cross i think lookes nicest and represents "Ireland" better

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u/Awkward_Purpose_9232 8d ago

Why they changed the one from around 87-91 I will never know. I agree the 6 county and original “Ireland” one is the best. If it didn’t say Northern Ireland on it of course. Also the north started applying blue into their gear in the early 90’s. Both teams had almost identical kits home and away before that

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u/JellyfishScared4268 8d ago

Yeah if you go back through the history the FAI crest has mainly been shamrocks. The current crest harkens back to the history but imo it feels a little corporate. Like it's the crest of an MLS team named the someplace shamrocks

Still much better than the john delaney era crest it replaced.The one with the weird shape and the weird ball on it.

The 90s one that everyone likes i think mainly comes down to nostalgia for the football and team success of that era. Design wise its a bit naff. But the nostalgia does win it a lot of points.

Basically the Ireland crest needs to be either a bunch of shamrocks or a celtic cross. I'd also settle for a harp. Those are the symbols of Ireland we should be using

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u/rtgh 7d ago

TBF adding blue into the kit only makes them more Irish... The state's official colour is Saint Patrick's Blue

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u/durthacht 2d ago

I read once that there was an issue with copyright. I think it may have been something to do with people were already designing and selling stuff with that or an almost identical design so it was too late for the FAI to get copyright protection. I agree it was the best design though.

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u/punchdrunkskunk 8d ago

I don’t love religious iconography in my sports tbh, but the North’s is a good design.

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u/Cyclingwithfriends 8d ago

The graphic is so annoying. It has all the charm of celtic tiger Ireland graphic design, and just never looked appealing

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u/MidnightSun77 8d ago

Which one did?

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u/LeavingCertCheat Paul McGrath 8d ago

It was to rebrand the FAI following the release of the Genesis Report. It was the time of Kerr when they were trying a few things like getting LOI fan groups into games at Lansdowne.

Didn't work.

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u/MidnightSun77 8d ago

Thanks I thought it might have had something to do with copyright because a lot of Premier League teams I.e. Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, etc. were changing badges due to lack of copyright at the time

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u/JellyfishScared4268 7d ago

GAA counties made new crests at a similar time for a similar reason

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u/No-Dog-2280 8d ago

Ye we are forever changing it. You couldn’t imagine other countries doing it as much as us

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u/FreeKey247 8d ago

Need to pay the design company for something

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u/AtticWall 8d ago

Nice try Netanyahu

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u/98Kane Roy Keane 8d ago

#3 for me with the pop of orange. We vastly underuse orange as a colour in our kits.

Not a massive fan of the the new one would be an easy fix for me. Make the shamrock straight and have say Eire instead of Ireland. Job done.

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u/Impressive-Wish6648 8d ago

top right for me.

its crazy how much i despised this logo until we got our new shite one. this logo looks beautiful in comparison.

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u/MattyLaw06 8d ago

I agree, but the new one doesn't deserve the hate it gets since it's literally what everyone was asking for for years.

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u/Impressive-Wish6648 8d ago

we were asking for better logo. so i don't agree that its literally what we asked for.

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u/MattyLaw06 8d ago

I still think it's better than this one. I get the nostalgia factor, but this would be nowhere near as popular if it weren't for Euro '88 or Italia '90.

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u/erich0779 8d ago

Completely agree, people are blinded by nostalgia because it's really an utter shite logo out of the cultural context.

The current one while I don't love it, it looks like a much improved draft of this one.

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u/Difficult_Tea6136 8d ago

White background is absolutely better

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u/Terrible_Biscotti_16 8d ago

New one isn’t great but it’s still better than this one.

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u/Impressive-Wish6648 8d ago

new one looks like something they spent 10 minutes on, like a placeholder in a game because they couldn't get the rights to the official one. atleast this one looks like the creator actually had a degree in graphic design.

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u/Jolly_Storage_329 8d ago

The current one is the current default template for a crest used by so many sides. A load of teams have virtually the same badge with minimal differences.

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u/Alarming-Geologist23 8d ago

That and the one below it

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u/Own-Pirate-8001 8d ago

I think the bottom left is my favourite.

It wasn’t a great crest, and IMO the new one isn’t much of an improvement.

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u/Prof_MitchWatkins 8d ago

Brutal, meaningless logo.

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u/Jolly_Storage_329 8d ago

I didn’t like it but it wasn’t meaningless as it’s a mix of a shamrock with a football.

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u/Prof_MitchWatkins 8d ago

Is this shamrock in the room with us now?

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u/markfla 8d ago

This is meant to be a shamrock

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u/Reasonable_Prize8289 8d ago

I would say the majority of people wouldn’t guess that at all. If you have to look that hard it’s just not a good design at all.

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u/Jolly_Storage_329 8d ago

Cool catchphrase but yes there is a representation of a shamrock on the old crest. The FAI description was as follows.

The logo is comprised of elements, a ball, a shamrock, a tricolour and stars and as the new brand image of the Football Association of Ireland represents the very essence of Irish Football inclusive of all who enjoy our game.

As well as embracing a long tradition with the shamrock, the new logo is a fresh modern reflection of our heritage and the bright talent who star in our game at every level. The use of green and orange continues to reflect the significant relationship with our national colours.

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u/MattyLaw06 8d ago

Kind of looks like a triskelion as well which I think is really cool.

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u/Reasonable_Prize8289 8d ago

Would anyone actually know it if they didn’t tell us though? It’s terrible design if you actually have to look that hard to find it or figure it out .

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u/Terrible_Biscotti_16 8d ago

They were all awful because it was truly a terrible crest.

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u/MattyLaw06 8d ago

I liked it. It was one of the more unique crests when it came out. I like the new one, but it follows a trend loads of other teams follow.

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u/No-Dog-2280 8d ago

Whe is it even supposed to be? Are they just bubbles with Ireland written over it? I genuinely dont know what it is

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u/Jolly_Storage_329 8d ago

It’s a shamrock and football.

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u/Reasonable_Prize8289 8d ago

Agree. Very Americanised with the ball in the centre.

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u/Pintslurper 8d ago

Has to be the early 90s crest over this lot although with that being said these badges are better than the shite we have currently. It drives me up the walls the fact that its not centered!

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u/MattyLaw06 8d ago

The late 90s crest was great, but I can't say the same about the early one. There's literally more orange in it than green, and if that colour ratio were on the crest today, people would be rioting.

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u/NandoFlynn 8d ago

Number 4 onwards I kinda liked. The issue with the old one wasn't even the colour, it was that each bit was done out separate nearly like a 3D design & it had this weird plastic texture

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u/OpenTheBorders 8d ago

I always thought the Tara Brooch would be a good basis for this. Or alternatively instead of the shield shape how about a harp shape?

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u/Independent_Dig_142 8d ago

They're all second rate. Give us one with taco chips and a pint of tea and we're in business

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u/Penny0034 8d ago

2016 euros jersey

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u/Automatic-Rhubarb969 8d ago

None, I hated that crest with a passion. Such a downgrade with no personality.

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u/Ok_Pangolin1085 8d ago

Orange and green dont go. Would prefer just green and white..

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u/DeanDonohoe85 8d ago

They’re all shite

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u/RonocNYC 8d ago

White is so obviously the right choice.

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u/MrAndyJay 7d ago

God they really are all awful aren't they?

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u/RomfordWellington 8d ago

I hate that bloody crest.

I prefer a deep, dark green. I think the 2011 era ones with the stripes were very nice.

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u/Longjumping_Food_210 8d ago

Underrated badge regardless of the similarity with Israeli one.

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u/MattyLaw06 8d ago

Yeah, and it's not like ours was inspired by Israel's one since theirs was released four years later in 2008.

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u/rtgh 7d ago

It was promised to them 3000 years ago

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u/Negative-Hat-4459 8d ago

Less orange the better