hi! my husband and I were looking for a baby carrier to step up to something less of a hassle from our Moby stretch wrap.
I have been hounding after a Hope and Plum. i like it is 100% cotton (as cotton is a breathable fabric). i like the company is ethical (at least on the surface). and the patterns/colors are fun!
but twas not in the budget atm. so we picked this one up at target. I was OK with it because it is LABELED ON THE BOX as 100% cotton. only to get home to wash it (i always check labels for wash instructions) and found out this POS is nothing BUT NON-BREATHABLE PLASTIC TRASH. the tag is already off of it so I don't think I can return this đ« .
does anyone have recommendations? i am a size 18/20 atm. baby is probably about 15lbs (14.6 at last weigh in) and is 4 months old. he is sitting assisted (almost unassisted already) and is an avid roller lol
Since you still have the box, I believe youâre safe to return to target!
Try checking marketplace for a Tula free to grow or Ergobaby Aerloom or 360. The Tula FTG comes in cotton or mesh, but the cotton is usually more readily available second hand in my experience.
If youâre on Facebook, there are a couple BST groups to join.
I got a Tula FTG off of eBay preowned and plan to resell it when Iâm done with it. It is so much better than the momcozy one I used with my second kid. Only wish Iâd found this sub/the carrier with my first đŹ
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You really have to think about the product as well. Yes, this said 100% cotton but if you look and read the captions you know they're lying. Based off OPs pic, you can see the plastic buckles and they mention padding. If you're aiming for plastic-free when it comes to carriers, your only option will probably be wraps.
Momcozy is such a scammy company, they have been flooding the parenting subs with "guerilla marketing" as well - AI slop posts that are really ads for their stupid bottle washers. So to me, this tracks. Keeping my fingers crossed you can return it anyway!
I got tricked by all their reddit bs and paid reviews. Their breast pumps are absolute trash and I burned through four motors in six months. The internet had me believing they were the gold standard for wearable pumps. -__-
It's one of the reasons I hardcore deinfluence carriers on here lol. I don't want people to get tricked and waste money on well-marketed crap like I did.
Mom cozy is literally just a Chinese company with good marketing. I THOUGHT they were an american based company but then found out theyâre not and most of their shit is trash.
Yeah MomCozy is basically just Shein garbage with good marketing. It's all inferior quality and inadequately tested, I hate seeing their products everywhere when there are SO many good babywearing brands out there.
Nuby keep doing this in the formula subreddits for their rapid cool. "How can I make formula? It's so hard đ€Ș to make hot then cool water đ€Ż how do you do it??"
Doing this in the formula subs is just plain evil. The best ones are the "I am having this moral dilemma where I found this cool gadget but my husband thinks I should be putting in the work to clean bottles/prep formula/etc myself or I'm a bad mom. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO??" And people fall for it everytime, of course, because the AI knows how ragebait works. It's so insidious and infuriating.
I almost bought one of their bottle washers, then saw influencer ads for it that had people stack triple the recommended amount of bottles into it, in a way that couldnât actually clean all of them. I agree theyâre shady.
So glad I noticed this quickly. I saw a lot of posts on other pregnancy related subs about Momcozy products, especially their belly band. My husband tried to order one direct but their website was wonky, so he ordered one from Temu. Iâd have been so disappointed paying the premium price for the materials that it turned out it to be. Itâs a decent product but not for the prices they advertise!
I would message momcozy. I had an issue with one of their products (not false advertising or faulty product, just didnât work for my needs) and they were really good about a refund.
Momcozy is a Chinese company that makes every parenting product under the sun. I donât want to bash them since a lot of people find their products to be a good value for the money, but still, you get what you pay for.
Are you looking for lightweight? All natural materials? Budget? Good for hot weather? What country are you in?
Happy baby OG and Sakura Bloom Scout are other carriers with apron style waists and natural materials, but are H back. You should be able to find them second hand for <$100 if you arenât picky.
A Tula Free to Grow or Standard (I think those fit for most 4 month olds?) arenât all natural, but many of them are mostly cotton and are budget friendly if purchasing used.
Hi! I'm in the us norcal valley area so summer gets like into 100â°f. Which is why i want cotton. Linen would be good too buy i just don't see them as common (at least in the US).
Are those both good for bigger people? I really want one with a good distribution of weight because my back really hurts lol.
Happy Baby is linen and I highly recommend them! I always found mine to be very comfy and good weight distribution. I wore a size 14ish post-pregnancy, for reference, and i am on the taller side (5â9â). The carrier was too small to be comfortable on my husband who wears a menâs 4x/5x (he could get it on but it didnât feel great); he prefered our Lillebaby. Kinderpack is another company thatâs very plus size friendly, too!
Do you have a local babywearing group where you could try on carriers? Not sure what part of NorCal youâre in; we do have a great group here in the Bay Area and I think thereâs one in the Sacramento Area as well but those may both be very far for you! I also was able to borrow a couple of carriers from people on local Facebook Buy Nothing/parenting groups, just for a week or two to try them out before buying. The babywearing store Little Zen One also has a try before you buy program that I have used and highly recommend, although that can take some time between signing up and actually getting a carrier.
The group is called Bay Area Babywearing! They also have a website with all the meetup info. The Facebook group is not super active but they have monthly meetups in San Jose, Santa Cruz, Berkeley, and SF.
Iâm. Size 20/22 and can wear Tula, Sakura bloom, hope and plum, pretty much everything except tushbay, AP, and solly carrier (not wrap) without a waist extender. I donât have a happy baby, but I do know they are more size inclusive than the Sakura bloom so I donât expect to have any problem.
Iâd still go with a Tula. They are classics for a reason. They also hold up very well.
Babywearing is inherently hot and no breathable fabric is going to make it tolerable for medium long periods especially in the valleys of CA.
By bigger do you mean broad, large chested, wider waist? Hope and Plum in particular are a size inclusive but I believe Tula also has waist expanders.
It depends on your body type, but waterfall style waistbands (Tula, Ergobaby) tend to be more supportive than apron waistbands (Happy Baby, Hope and Plum, Sakura Bloom), but waterfall waists tend to be bulkier and hotter.
You should be able to find a cheap secondhand Tula locally. You can try it out and see how you like it. Itâs going to be better quality than a momcozy even if itâs not all natural materials either.
If you want to go with a Happy Baby or Hope and Plum I would recommend a try before you buy program. They are expensive and worth it if they work with your body, but a waste of money if you happen to not like them. I bought a H&P Lark and still recommend them because they are a good quality, minimal, lightweight carrier, but personally I donât like it.
I have broad shoulders, wide hips, large chest. Kinda built like. amythyst from steven universe, just a lil taller at 5'3.
I'd say I have an hourglass figure when I don't have as much of a belly. Lol.
Baby, myself and my husband run hot. Lol.
I will look into these brands as well as FB groups!
Just not my children's body in combination with my body.. Haha. I only have a Tula standard but the size of the back panel took ages to grow into (way past the clothing size it should fit with my oldest) when the seat was already not knee to knee anymore.. then she couldn't get her arms out to the sides because I had to pull the straps to the absolute minimum getting a good fit which leaves absolutely not enough spaces for arms out to the sides which my oldest preferred (which also looks the same with the free to grow even if that carrier might solve the back panel size issue). It's also that they just attach the straps that high. But the back panel was also too high to go comfortable arms out over it until over 2yo old(!!) because it was pinching her under her arms - and for sleeping that isn't recommended anyway. It fitted my youngest a bit better who is more average in her proportions, and she doesn't mind arms in that much but both my owls (lots of head turning to the maximum) don't like the curved and thicker top of the back panel.
Carrying is so individual, what works for one just doesn't for the other. I'm not a fan of H back in general.
Hope&plum just had a mystery sale so there are likely a lot of carriers for sale for less than retail! Try Treet or BST groups on FB. The BST groups are a great place to find an under retail carrier too (not just hope&plum). Just wanted to mention that if you're not aware. Happy Baby is another good one that is a bit cheaper than hope&plum and is a linen textile.
I just want to clarify somethingâ a lot of people are suggesting other structured carriers to replace this one, but they will also have polyester padding, plastic foam in the waistband, and nylon webbing for the straps (even if the outer layer is truly cotton like on a Tula). If you want a 100% all cotton carrier you need to be looking at woven wraps and meh dais.
Even more minimalistic carriers like Hope & Plumâs Lark or Happy Babyâs OG have a tiny bit of padding in the straps, and itâs very likely polyester.
Seconding this. All fabric in the lark is natural fibers. The only plastic is buckles and webbing for safety. The lark cotton batting is grown and produced in the USA too.
Iâm confused about the confusion. It says 100% cotton fabric. It shows clearly in the photos and text that there is padding. Padding in straps and such is ALWAYS poly. It has to be. So, itâs cotton fabric with padded straps and belts. Poly padding is industry standard.
Their padding is like a bed quilt. Not a comforter, an old fashioned thin quilt. Itâs not much of a pad. There didnât look like there is any on the waist.
The mom cost is like backpack straps. The lark is like a Vera Bradley bag.
I think you should be able to trust the â100% cotton MATERIALâ statement. Thereâs no mention of any particular part being cotton, like the fabric vs padding.
The responsibility isnât on the customer to just know that though. Like sure maybe you know that padding is always going to have poly and that may seem like common knowledge to you but not everybody necessarily knows that and a photo of the padding doesnât count as a material disclosure.
The pads arenât really padding. Itâs some batting so the fabric doesnât roll. It doesnât properly pad. Not like padded backpack straps. It is like a Vera Bradley strap. Sure, it looks fluffy, but it goes flat with only a couple pounds on it. If you donât need the padding, itâs fine, but if you look at it, and think it is nice and thick looking and wonât dig inâŠnope. Itâs not that kind of padding. You need that closed cell foam stuff for that.
Cotton batting isnât often used as padding. It doesnât work, because for the same thickness itâs heavier and denser. It doesnât absorb shock well at all. It goes thud not sproing.
I donât expect people to know this is why, just have experienced the world enough to see itâs accurate.
Iâve been saving up packing material to make ukulele cases. Iâm not using batting because of this.
Sometimes they use wadded cotton in furniture, when what they want is dense and muffling type padding. Not bounce.
Because itâs cheaper and easier to design with. If you donât use foam padding, you have to design it really well to distribute weight because youâre not relying on the plastic bounce. Thatâs why the lark has wider straps, or Sakura bloom use leather to reinforce.
You have to list all materials on the label. Cotton isn't listed and the percentage make up on the label adds up to 100%. There is no possibility that a physical product can contain more than 100%.
I took another look. (Both of the labels have the same wash instructions). It lists cotton on the other label, it doesn't feel like cotton. But it could just be new? I feel pretty dumb rn, like a helicopter fiber mom.
I just don't want it to get super hot since baby and I run on the warmer side.
Full disclosure, I have a Lark, and I wanted to love it, but I never really feel like I get a great fit even though I did a fit check with them. It hurts my back pretty often. I only ever see positive reviews of it though.
They likely delete more negative reviews. I did see one less than stellar review on their page. But they replied back and essentially quoted user error as the problem.
They def donât delete negative reviews :-) but they do proactively work with people who arenât getting a good fit to improve it with their fit education team.
I saw somebody had an extra Lark which has very little padding so I think that would probably work well in the heat. A lot of the popular carriers like wildbird/momcozy/etc. are way more padded than the Lark. I bet Target would still take this back though
You have to list it on the label, but I donât think you must on the box. Maybe they should expect people to be that naive, but, that just makes me worry if they do.
I used to work at target as the guest service team lead, and unless things have drastically changed, you can definitely return it. Youâre not doing any sort of fraud, you bought an item and it didnât work for you and wasnât what you expected. The front desk team member either will not give a fuck or also agree that itâs stupid and will be mad with you. I donât know if this one automatically gets sorted into toss for safety reasons, but many items do. If not, they can either mark it down and someone gets a nice lil discount, or they put it in a bin where it gets sold elsewhere for a hefty discount. Donât feel like youâre stuck with this or wasting the money.
Love a Tula free to grow and they are pretty easy to find secondhand.
Kinderpack is great as well, I'm not 100% sure that they are 100% cotton but they are super responsive if you want to ask questions. Their waistband is bulky compared to a hope and plum, which some people prefer. They have plus size straps.
This isnât exactly false advertising. The fabric is cotton. The rest of the carrier, like the padding under the cotton fabric, is not. The straps have to be polyester, cotton webbing is too weak and wouldnât be safe. Cotton padding would be bulky, heavy, and hot. I work in textiles and trust me, you want polyester for padding/straps. Cotton is whatâs touching your baby, thatâs what matters.
I have this carrier, as well as a Tula, Ergobaby and 2 Lille babyâs, and reach for the momcozy one the most. I use it probably 80% of the time, the others are backups for work/car/etc. Itâs really comfortable, super easy to adjust, and packs down small enough to shove in the diaper bag.
Obviously the padding and webbing won't be cotton, but if the fabric is cotton, why is cotton not listed on the list of materials shown on the left side of OP's photo?
I've ordered clothing listed as 100% cotton and had it arrive with a label showing 100% polyester (and that seemed accurate by feel). So I'd be entirely unsurprised to find something falsely labeled as cotton on the package when it's not, especially from a scammy company like this.
This! It must be listed on the label! I've been deliberate snot trying to buy all natural fibers because i get really hot in plastic. My husband, baby, and i run on the warm side so we get got quickly. And with the heat of our summers i was really wanting cotton
Target in particular is shady about materials in their specifications. Iâve seen multiple app listings say 100% cotton, nothing else, and once the product arrives I find that thereâs a mix of other materials. You should be able to return this, just bring it back in the box.
Tula free to grow comes in cotton and hemp, and the secondhand market is affordable, check Facebook marketplace. I also like Kinderpack if you can find those there.
I tore the label off a owala cup and threw it away before I realized that it wouldnât keep ice more than a couple hours, and they still took it back with the receipt. So I would return this.
Look on Facebook marketplace, eBay, Mercari. I have found all three of my main carriers secondhand. I use a Tula explore, a happy baby, and a little Zen one.
Hope & Plum are the best, their fabrics are appropriately labeled and so soft.
ETA: so sorry I didnât read your comment before commenting (my bad!) try the h&p Facebook group to find one for resale. They just had a big sale and you might be able to find one for a good price, though of course I donât know your budget. Good luck!!
I donât know if you saw that H&P released the sprout which is up to 25lbs and half price of Lark? I hate how not having poisonous trash made in China costs so much money and I know the budget stuff. I am not a wealthy person. Unfortunately plastic is cheaper than natural fibers.
I think between sales and a welcome discount you can shave quite a bit off. It might not be the pattern you want but you may learn to love it b This polyester thing would infuriate me. I know the feeling.
I just ran into this with ergobaby I have the cotton 360 but the tag has polyester on it, however itâs the inner structure materials and the outside is cotton. I do want something more breathable for the summer months though.
I think that is the law label (shows the productâs filling inside the carrier). Is there a care/washing label- it would be much smaller? Care label is where the fabric of the carrier would be listed- but I also would not put it past Momcozy to do this type of thing.
I wish I could get on the hope & plum train - I tried. I love an honest and ethical company. However, my Happy OG and LennyLamb are so so so much better - Iâm still sour about buying it in the first place. đ
I love my ring sling!! I do have the H&P sling as well as the lark and I use the sling way more consistently tbh. But the lark is great for naps. I would check out marketplace and see if you can find a good one. I have noticed a lot of Sakura bloom carriers on there recently and those are also quite good, same with happy baby and Tula
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Mine is very tolerant of this one, he'll take naps in it all the time. I will say that as he gets heavier the back can start riding in an uncomfortable location, & it's definitely one of our warmer ones, so the little man is more tolerant of it when it's cold out.
For the $30 or whatever for a basic structured carrier I bought so my husband could easily wear the baby too it's... fine? I'd love to have a Wildbird or hope&plum structured one though.
We already run on the warm side and live in an area that gets dry heat. So plastic carrier isn't gonna work for us. I'm going to hunt through fb market and offerup
Oh yeah no, we live in the PNW so it's been good for the winter with cold and damp. But the baby also does run hot here too, so I'd absolutely find a different one.
I use my Lark every single day. I have a 25 lb 2 yr old and a 29 lb 1 year old. It has savvvvved me. Itâs the only carrier I can put either girl in and wear them all day long w no back pain
Hey! There are a ton of bst babywearing Facebook groups where you can snag some good deals on carriers â Iâve gotten a lark in play condition for $100 shipped from there! Feel free to PM me and Iâm more than happy to send you a list of groups if youâd like!
HI!!! I would love to mail my gently used hope and plum ring sling to you! I won it in a giveaway so no cost to me and am done having children so I dont have use any longer.
Just here to say I got a lark and ring sling from Hope and plum and Iâm in Canada so mark up on the price from us to Canadian plus the terrifs. I think I paid close to $500 in the end and I would 1000% do it again. They are amazing. They have the âalmost perfectâ section of their website, very small defects such as stitching or small stains for less than retail. They also have a 2 carrier deal if you order 2 it takes the price off.
Do you have a lending library nearby you? You rent a carrier and try it out before buying.
I have the Momcozy mesh carrier and itâs so good! This one has cotton material but the padding is not cotton. You would want cotton padding. That would be nothing.
I just ordered the Mabe carrier from good buy. It has foam padding because thatâs what I need for my back. So not all cotton like you are looking for. But the material is linen. So it will soften each use.
Check the thrift stores and marketplace. I just bought a baby bjorn 100% cotton one at Salvation Army for $7 and I love it, but not enough to pay $100+ for a carrier
Hope & Plum is a pretty darn ethical company, as someone who candidly works for them (in the warehouse). I second finding a lending library, and then seeing what carrier style works for you in general. Some people like H back, some X back. Try different carriers out. Heck, try a ring sling. They don't have batting so they're more breathable! And more affordable as well. BST groups on facebook are a godsend, join one and start looking for something you'd like!
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Since you still have the box, I believe youâre safe to return to target!
Try checking marketplace for a Tula free to grow or Ergobaby Aerloom or 360. The Tula FTG comes in cotton or mesh, but the cotton is usually more readily available second hand in my experience.
If youâre on Facebook, there are a couple BST groups to join.