r/askcarsales 17h ago

US Sale Am I being petty ?

My husband and I own a small business and have used the same fleet salesman at the same dealership for over 10 years. In January 2025 we signed the lease on my new personal vehicle. Same lender we always use, autopay setup immediately as usual. Yesterday we get a call from the collections department of our lender, we have over $200 in late payments plus $80 in late fees. After some back and forth with the lender and calling our sales guy, turns out the finance guy didn’t input the correct sales tax. Apparently sales tax changed Jan 1st of 2025, we signed Jan 9th 2025. The discrepancy in sales tax made our payment about $15 more than the lease agreement we signed. I always opt for paperless billing and we have had no clue about the monthly $15 underpayment, until the phone call yesterday. I’m refusing to pay the late payments and late fees. It’s purely principle for me at this point and I believe the dealership should cover it, plus cut me a check covering the discrepancy for the remainder of the lease. Am I being unreasonable?

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u/Micosilver FormerF&I/GSM 14h ago

You can be upset at the dealer, but in my opinion - the lender is at fault. They accepted the contract, and they failed to notify you for months while they knew about the discrepancy. Once the dealer gets the contract funded - they have limited visibility into your lease.

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u/redvines_1 8h ago

I can’t believe the lender funded it with incorrect tax honestly.

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u/Grandpas_Spells 6h ago

Highly likely the emailed statements pointed this out starting from month 1.

I'd review the original paperwork. I find it unlikely the lender funded a deal with the incorrect tax. That's all computerized.

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u/tatersellscars 4h ago

Ask to see the signed contract showing the higher payments. Monthly payments don’t just change after you’ve signed. The dealership must of had a resign. If the resigned without you ask for more than the discrepancy.

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u/Micosilver FormerF&I/GSM 4h ago

Monthly lease payments do change if the tax rate changes, it happens all the time.

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u/GatorWok 1h ago

Must have

I can never let this go on Reddit.

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u/DavefromCA Former Sales 16h ago

R/legaladvice

Is say they have a right to recoup what they missed out on and make the payment right going forward.

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u/Vegaskwn Auto Finance Professional 16h ago

This ⬆️ Yes it’s dealers fault, yes it sucks, and id be irritated too but at the end of the day its the government you owe the money to and with it bring this far into it they won’t be able to do anything to adjust the payment to make it right. Crazy how long it took you to find out about it though for sure..

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u/ryangilliss Retired Dealer 5h ago

I'm guessing you set up your autopay for a fixed amount as opposed to the total due for the period

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u/trentthesquirrel Ford Sales 2h ago

Yeah, this is on the lender for accepting the contract and not kicking it back to the dealership to correct with you.

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My husband and I own a small business and have used the same fleet salesman at the same dealership for over 10 years. In January 2025 we signed the lease on my new personal vehicle. Same lender we always use, autopay setup immediately as usual. Yesterday we get a call from the collections department of our lender, we have over $200 in late payments plus $80 in late fees. After some back and forth with the lender and calling our sales guy, turns out the finance guy didn’t input the correct sales tax. Apparently sales tax changed Jan 1st of 2025, we signed Jan 9th 2025. The discrepancy in sales tax made our payment about $15 more than the lease agreement we signed. I always opt for paperless billing and we have had no clue about the monthly $15 underpayment, until the phone call yesterday. I’m refusing to pay the late payments and late fees. It’s purely principle for me at this point and I believe the dealership should cover it, plus cut me a check covering the discrepancy for the remainder of the lease. Am I being unreasonable?

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