What do you think should improve in today’s society when it comes to their treatment of black people?

[u/doctimi]

Asking as white european, that realized my own potential ignorance when it comes to certain parts of life.

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[u/5ft8lady]

They need to listen.

Black Americans said, hey they are removing rights of women, children, etc and no one listen.

Black Americans said, hey they are raising the price of college, so that only the wealthy can attend, and no one listened

And now ppl complain about these things later 

[u/doctimi → u/5ft8lady]

You are absolutely right. You were at one point without rights so you see the patterns faster and more clearly.

[u/ajwalker430]

It's a different answer based on where YOU are.

Black people are not a monolith and what's needed in the UK is different than what's need in America or Jamaica or Nigeria.

Don't lump us all together like that. 🫤

[u/doctimi → u/ajwalker430]

Wasn’t actually thinking about lumping you, just thought that maybe there is some universal struggle/issue you face based on unknown racist behaviour from white people

[u/ajwalker430 → u/doctimi]

There is no "unknown racist behavior from white people," it's called history 🤷🏾‍♂️

And I'll repeat and rephrase. The answer to your question is very much dependent on where you are in the world. There are very different issues and very different nuances to those issues based on location.

We are not a monolith.

[u/doctimi → u/ajwalker430]

So you don’t think that some white people may sound or do something racist without intention to do so?

[u/ajwalker430 → u/doctimi]

I'm highly skeptical of the "do something racist without intention to do so" part. It's part of their hubris to think their thinking is correct thinking, and no one should ever have a problem with anything they say or do.

[u/breadpan00 → u/doctimi]

I think the point they're making is that white people don't just go "oops I slipped and did something racist", if someone is being racist, in some capacity it's because they believe in a racist idea. Like my dad doesn't think of himself as "a racist" but then he tells me shit like "in South Africa when the black farmers were given the land back they were worse off because they didn't know how to farm", and believing that requires that you believe those Black people somehow knew how to farm when the white people were there and then miraculously forgot when they left, aka believing that they are inherently less intelligent. My mum doesn't think of herself as "a racist" but then when I told her about how much of the industrial revolution in England was funded by stolen resources from India she responded "what were they going to do with it?" ie, implying that she thinks Indian people are somehow inherently less capable of utilising their own resources than we are. Both of these instances are based in learned behaviour and they might not necessarily be self aware about it, but it's not "an accident".

[u/Fickle-Spring816]

Be yourself. Ask questions. Feel free to check other posts in this subreddit.

[u/humanessinmoderation]

Humans that have difficulty being humane or understanding things like "do unto others" simply shouldn't be allowed to hold positions where individuals or populations will be vulnerable at scale to their decisions.

That's really it in a nutshell.

[u/doctimi → u/humanessinmoderation]

I agree, but its not so simple. If you are born into priviledge the thinking of “do unto others” you may view in different light, unfortunately.

[u/humanessinmoderation → u/doctimi]

I disagree.

I'll just give an example. When I was younger, like pre-teen. I used to use the term 'gay' to mean 'bad', etc. All it took was one person to say "Yo. you are using a word that people use to describe themselves as is or in the positive, and you are using it as to mean something bad. How would you like it if a term you used for yourself was used as an insult?"

That was it. I recalled "do unto others", and I was like yeah. I wouldn't want a word I'd use to categorize myself used pejoratively.

Being humane doesn't require you to be privileged or not. It just requires you to have capacity to be humane.

It shouldn't be hard to convince someone to be humane if they have humanity in them.

Doesn't mean they won't be wrong, doesn't mean they will be perfect—it just means things like Human Rights, or inequity/faireness conversations shouldn't be like drilling your own teeth without resolution at the end.