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Episode Isekai Mokushiroku Mynoghra: Hametsu no Bunmei de Hajimeru Sekai Seifuku • Apocalypse Bringer Mynoghra: World Conquest Starts with the Civilization of Ruin - Episode 6 discussion

Isekai Mokushiroku Mynoghra: Hametsu no Bunmei de Hajimeru Sekai Seifuku, episode 6

Alternative names: Isekai Mokushiroku Mynoghra ~Hametsu no Bunmei de Hajimeru Sekai Seifuku~

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u/Toloran Aug 10 '25

That's something I've been drilling to my players for nearly 20 years now:

Good vs Evil is really Altruism vs Selfishness. Good characters can do traditionally "evil" things if its to help others. Evil characters can do traditionally "good" things if it benefits themselves (even if that benefit is just the warm fuzzy feeling).

Lawful vs Chaotic is consistency vs inconsistency. In any given situation, assuming all other considerations are the same, a lawful character will do the same thing. A chaotic character will not.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Aug 10 '25

I was never quite sure about that stuff, but isn't 'Chaotic' usually what allows the Good character to do the 'traditionally evil thing' to help others?

Say you assassinate a slave owner in their sleep, you're doing it for good (free the slaves) but you're doing something inherently evil (murdering someone in their sleep), so that I thought that was 'chaotic good', while a 'lawful good' person would refrain from doing that even to save the slaves, so he would try to bring the slave owner to justice, or - if the justice supports that - try to change the entire judicial system, etc..!

(Maybe he could offer him a proper duel, that's not too evil!)

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u/ukezi Aug 10 '25

In Dungeons & Dragons, Chaotic Good describes a character who is inherently good-hearted and acts according to their own moral compass, often disregarding rules and traditions in the process. These characters believe in personal freedom and are driven by a desire to help others, even if it means breaking the law or defying authority.

It's not really the act that is good or evil, it's the intentions.

The Lawful - Chaotic axis is more about if you care about the rules and expectations of society. Note that is this context a plundering barbarian would be lawful, he is doing what his society expects from him. He will probably have some code about duels and such.

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u/Toloran Aug 10 '25

Note: It's not necessarily societies code to be lawful, but a code.

Batman is generally agreed to be Lawful because he has a strict code he follows, even though he's explicitly breaking the law and social norms.

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u/Standing_Legweak Aug 11 '25

Following that line of thinking 🤔 does that mean Gilgamesh is Lawfully Good cause he is the rules. RULE BREAKER!

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u/Ralathar44 Aug 11 '25

Gilgamesh does follow his own code. Even though alot of that code is because of his own pride. And ultimately its his code that causes him to lose to Archer.

His slight hesistation to use Ea (which I know is technically not canon to the VN but fits Gligamesh so perfectly its canon to me) cost him that fight. Because using Ea would be him breaking his own rules, his own pride.