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Episode Witch Watch - Episode 8 discussion

Witch Watch, episode 8

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u/Aerodynamic41 May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25

I love how the second part's humor relies on how the 10x speed spell works in a surprisingly realistic way!

I was wondering what would happen when Kanshi returned to normal if he already adapted to the 10x speed and the ending didn't disappoint LOL!

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u/Ocixo https://myanimelist.net/profile/BuzzyGuy May 25 '25

When I saw that Kanshi wasn’t moving screws faster into these ziplock bags, I immediately realised he’d be screwed: those 3 days would feel like 30 days.

I suppose that he managed to do 30 days of work in just 3 days, but at what cost!?

When Kanshi’s time returned to normal, he’d grown unaccustomed to the regular speed of life. Was this the mental breakdown that Nico had mentioned as one of the spell’s aftereffects?

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi May 25 '25

When I saw that Kanshi wasn’t moving screws faster into these ziplock bags, I immediately realised he’d be screwed: those 3 days would feel like 30 days.

i was thinking the one thing you could do in sped up time would be to consume media, one long weekend would turn into a whole month of reading, single player gaming (if you have an emulator that can run at 10x), or watching digital media

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u/cyberscythe May 25 '25

this is the only situation where it's acceptable to watch anime at 10x speed

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u/LimeyLassen https://myanimelist.net/profile/Limey_Lassen May 26 '25

So, just like internet in 2003

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u/Brickinatorium May 25 '25

I thought of the gaming and digital media thing, but then realized the problem with them. For the show's you'd probably have to watch them fast forwarded or something so maybe it could work. For the games, on the other hand, unless you're playing on an emulator, you can't really speed up gameplay. For physical media I was also wondering if he'd end up turning pages so fast that he might rip them.

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi May 26 '25

in another comment i realized that even with digital media, your screen refresh rate might be a problem, though you could at least be entertained with watching stuff at effectively lower fps. as for tearing pages it didn't seem like strength/speed was a problem for him elsewhere, and he could learn that pretty quickly if needed anyways

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u/Galle_ May 26 '25

For physical media I was also wondering if he'd end up turning pages so fast that he might rip them.

This doesn't seem to be a problem with anything else. Any object he interacts with moves at his speed just fine.

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u/BakedSalami May 26 '25

Yeah you're toast. You could probably really trounce some competitive online games though.... Your "reaction speed" would absolutely murder anything XD Got whole minutes to line up your cross hairs when going around a corner.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

But wouldn’t it take 10x longer to start the PC/TV, load each website, buffer each video, and possibly wait again for the media to buffer at 10x? I guess it isn’t the worst thing but it would annoy me

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Jun 17 '25

yeah dealing with online media/streaming would probably be a no-go, would need local media.

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u/Blurgas May 26 '25

He probably got recoiled to 10x slower instead of normal speed.

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u/Arlockin https://myanimelist.net/profile/Arlockin May 27 '25

Screwed

haha

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u/diacewrb May 25 '25

Also shows you why solitary confinement is a form of mental torture.

Imagine not being able to speak to anyone else for a month or do anything besides from eat and sleep, a lot of folks would go crazy after few days.

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u/sherriablendy May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25

At least nothing was really stopping Kan from accessing the internet, but the slower speeds/buffering could probably be considered torture on its own too lol

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u/Ordinal43NotFound May 25 '25

Bro has to wait 30 minutes just to eat an instant ramen. The more you think about this spell the more you realize how much suffering it entails lol.

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u/meneldal2 May 25 '25

A lot of foods take time to cook, if you can organize yourself it's not a huge deal

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u/cyberscythe May 25 '25

if you can organize yourself it's not a huge deal

it's Kanshi; it's a huge deal

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u/Coyote_Shepherd May 25 '25

Plus that gives you time to plot world domination

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u/ObviousSwimmer May 26 '25

But no amount of organizing will make half an hour in the oven less than half an hour in the oven.

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u/HugeRichard11 https://myanimelist.net/profile/CostCurl May 25 '25

x10 that means he had to wait 5 hours to eat instant ramen if he wanted to or just accept it being molten hot or barely cooked

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u/Coyote_Shepherd May 25 '25

At least nothing was really stopping Kan from accessing the internet, but the slower speeds/buffering could probably be considered torture on its own too lol

Welcome to the 90's

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u/Galle_ May 26 '25

Pssssssh eeeeeee badong badong badong

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u/diacewrb May 25 '25

Plus increased input lag and your refresh rate collapsing into the signal digits.

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u/kkrko https://myanimelist.net/profile/krko May 25 '25

High end smartphones can do 120Hz. 12Hz is terrible, but if you're desperate it'll still be usable.

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u/Coyote_Shepherd May 25 '25

Imagine not being able to speak to anyone else for a month or do anything besides from eat and sleep, a lot of folks would go crazy after few days.

We pretty much saw that happen during the Pandemic.

Some folks adapted, some did not, and some did not have to.

Although speaking as someone who....has spent a good chunk of their lifetime and most of their day to day life totally alone not talking to anyone at all, one benefit of it is that you develop a REALLY good imagination.

Art kind of becomes your escape and the world outside becomes all the more wonderful because you really have time to engage with it and to appreciate it.

I believe one of the FFXIV writers (Natsuko Ishikawa) said that sometimes she likes to just walk outside and spend time staring at a blue sky because no one ever really ponders that sort of stuff and it can be fairly relaxing.

So that's got me wondering if this was a way for the writers to do to Kan what the Star Trek Prodigy writers did to Rok in her episode "Time Amok" that had...similar...temporal shenanigans?

It's a vector for change for both of their characters.

Did you notice how at the end that Kan had learned to slow down a bit and seemed to be a bit more emotionally mature?

That month all by himself, for the most part, probably taught him a few things just like it did with Rok and what we're going to be seeing in future episodes is a VERY changed and brand new version of him.

It's also similar to what happens in the Flash comics AND in the live action show whenever a new speedster would show up.

They'd rub Barry the wrong way, cause some sort of issue on their own, wind up learning from it, and then grow in some cool way in the next couple of issues/episodes.

So I feel like we're going to be seeing some interesting developments with Kan in the near future.

But just like with Nico's magic, there's no such thing as a free lunch, and that solitary confinement is going to come with a catch because it had to have done a bit of damage to Kan before Moi, Keigo, and Nico sorted it all out.

So as much as we'll see some improvement with him, there's going to be an "Oh...right" that kicks in, and I'm guessing that....maybe he'll become more attached to them than he was before and the whole super social aspect of his crow/tengu thing won't just be for show or a surface level thing.

Remember, we got the whole Otto-man thing before this part of the episode and THAT was just a joke layered on top of another story about the relationship between a husband and wife and then a father and his son.

The parallel from that will of course be Moi/Nico and then Moi/Kan.

Kan will probably be the catalyst for Moi and Nico getting a bit more serious and will be the one who helps to...keep the fires burning in a way.

He'll probably also tell Moi at some point that he does look up to him as a hero in a way, kind of like how Wally looks up to Barry in the comics, and how that son looked up to his father.

Combined together, both of these then imply that Kan is going to be the one to help Moi become the hero that everyone knew he could be...and that Nico needed him to be.

Because right now Moi is acting a bit like Simba and he's going to need a bit of a shove, when the time is right, to become Nico's (Nala's) Ogre King.

But that was ONLY possible after Kan had himself gone through a similar transformation, first by seeing an example of what it means to be a hero with the Otto-man stuff and second by going through a hyperbolic time chamber-esque period of accelerated induced introspection and practice.

Now he knows how to take things slower, how to be more aware of those around him, and how the connections between everyone work to affect everyone else, including himself.

So this feels like a bit of a trivial episode but there's some deeper stuff buried between the lines if you...slow down...and look for it.

It's all a bit like a sword being forged....

.....or a bird learning how to fly....and we all know that...

....ducks fly together.

So being alone isn't always a bad thing in the short term, just in the long term when you can't find anyone to...

....flock...with.

:D

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u/Galle_ May 26 '25

That month all by himself, for the most part, probably taught him a few things just like it did with Rok and what we're going to be seeing in future episodes is a VERY changed and brand new version of him.

I guarantee you that Kan has learned absolutely nothing from this experience. That would not be funny.

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u/ThrowCarp May 25 '25

Honestly out of all the "backfires" of Nico's spells, this one is easily the most horrific if you imagined it happening to you.

But for some reason, as a bystander, I just couldn't stop laughing at this situation.

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u/mekerpan May 25 '25

This show really gets "wacky humor" right. ;-)

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u/Ordinal43NotFound May 25 '25

The way Kanshi realizes each layer of the spell's damning side-effects little by little was so good.

"Oops! Looks like everything is moving at 0.1x speed."

"Damn, I actually still perceive my own time normally, so the boring stuff is still boring."

"Oh, shit. I'm gonna have to be stuck like this for 30 days".

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u/Coyote_Shepherd May 25 '25

"Oh now the mental breakdown stuff makes more sense! Wait how do I know if I'm having a mental breakdown if there's no one to tell that I'm having a mental breakdown? IS THAT A SIGN I'M HAVING A MENTAL BREAKDOWN!?"

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u/InfernoVulpix May 27 '25 edited May 27 '25

Here's a couple other implications of this kind of time dilation:

  • Gravity would only have 1/10th the pull it normally does on you. It'd be like standing on the moon, except a fair bit lighter and floatier than even that.
  • You wouldn't be able to take normal steps from your perspective because you'd have very little friction with the ground, minimizing the amount of forward push you can get with each step. You could shuffle along or take bounding leaps, but it's like the ground is covered in ice all the time.
  • Material tolerances are now a big deal. If you're moving ten times as fast, you're pushing and pulling with ten times the force. If you slam a door, does it survive what is from its perspective a 10x super-slam? Everything around you rips, snaps, and generally breaks a lot easier than you'd expect it to, and you must be careful with everything you touch. Be careful you don't leave a hole in the floor by jumping off of it with 10x the force.
  • Similarly, everything you move around is moving around a lot quicker than it's supposed to. Casually placing something on a table may lead to it clattering around as if you had dropped it, and a carelessly-tossed object is now a high-speed projectile.
  • The air resists you more now. Not as much as if you were swimming, water is about 55x as viscous as air, but it'd still be an experience closer to water than air. If you're thinking this might eventually allow you to swim around in the air like water, congratulations, that's exactly how it works! Just ask birds, after all.

And if you wanna get really realistic, you're also nearly blind now. Only a tenth as much light is entering your eyes as before, so the world dims as if you were wearing glasses that block out 90% of light. You'd probably still be able to see outside in the daylight, but good luck indoors.