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Episode Dragon Ball Daima - Episode 12 discussion

Dragon Ball Daima, episode 12

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u/Calgar43 Dec 27 '24

SSJ 3 wasn't necessary for Vegeta really. When he made the leap from SSJ2 to God, it made SSJ3 a liability more than anything. Without the power of God red/blue, and with a massive Ki drain on it.

There WAS a time it would have been an upgrade, but it was a narrow window between mid-buu saga and Battle of the Gods. So like a couple of years or so.

He probably just learned it so Goku and his son didn't have one up on him. Pure pride, no actual benefit....which is pretty Vegeta overall.

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u/ImThe10Doct0r Dec 27 '24

The only time it would’ve been useful for Vegeta is in BoG when he was fighting Beerus

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u/CaliOriginal Dec 27 '24

I’d argue “MY BULMA!!!” Was as strong if not superior to ssj3. Since it was just ssj2 augmented by unyielding rage.

In all honesty as strong as ssj3 is, it never seemed like a “real” ssj form.

Goku learns it as an aside In Otherworld, gotenks copies it easy, and vegeta also managed it without any info.

It screams of the SUPER / ULTRA forms that vegeta and trunks use in cell saga. While it doesn’t sacrifice speed or maneuverability it does have a serious drain on stamina that’s never stated to go away. Plus, It visually doesn’t mesh with what toriyama established with ssj -> ssj2, and reestablished with the god forms.

You know what does match perfectly with the precedent and motifs? Future trunks’ “Ssj ira”.

It not only is something he unlocks in a perfect parallel to gohan’s rage during the cell games, but it doesn’t go too crazy on the buff-up while cranking the lightning aura to 11 and making people mistake it for god-ki (we see it wildly arcing and striking during the power up, it’s pure crackling energy surrounding him.)

I feel like it was a missed opportunity to not call it “truly a form beyond ssj2” and admit it was the real successor instead of 3.

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u/Fragrant-Arm-3246 Dec 31 '24

picolo or roshi(can't remember) said that he surpaased goku at that time so it's defo my bulma vegeta >ssj3 goku