Carnist: “Am I a bad person for accidental chicken deaths? Never mind the hundreds I’ve killed on purpose”

[u/BlueberryLemur]

[u/Consistent-Value-509]

I genuinely don't understand how cognitive dissonance gets this extreme. Even before I was vegan (💔), I don't think I coped this badly.

[u/BlueberryLemur → u/Consistent-Value-509]

I agree, it’s jarring to read!

And I also understand that many people are very much removed from agricultural reality and don’t interact with livestock etc so it can be easier to disconnect from how the bacon ends up in a sandwich.

But for people who interact with these animals daily and comment how cute the young are, or how they have personalities etc and in the next sentence say that it’s normal to kill them.. I just can’t 🤦‍♀️

[u/Special-Cut-4964 → u/Consistent-Value-509]

I don’t understand it either , but I think it’s from some people viewing animals as products (notice the use of "process") vs them being actual living sentient beings.

[u/pandaappleblossom → u/Consistent-Value-509]

Same!!! Although I don’t know, there is always clarity in hindsight, I might have been as insane. I never killed any animals myself but I did pay for others to do it for me and I had somehow convinced myself that ‘livestock’ animals like cows, pigs, and chickens, were somehow different than dogs and humans and wild animals. That they somehow weren’t fully conscious. Totally insane.

[u/ings0c → u/Consistent-Value-509]

Who calls a group of living, breathing animals a “batch”? Absolutely sociopathic

[u/Excellent-Nose-6430]

I know how he feels. I stuff dozens of kittens into tiny boxes so they don't roam around my house and sometimes the little ones suffocate in the middle and dying. Then it's like ugh, another dead cat to get rid of... It's hard to lose kittens when they could have been sold, and I wish I could find a way to keep stuffing them all into those little tiny boxes without several of them suffocating to death.

[u/BlueberryLemur → u/Excellent-Nose-6430]

Thank you for your service 🫶

The only alternative to stuffing kittens into tiny boxes are the plastic frankenmeats that kill poor little insects

Btw do you give kittens flea and worm meds? I’m only asking as I care about the insects that frankenmeats kill, fleas are different tho

[u/Excellent-Nose-6430 → u/BlueberryLemur]

I don't give them anything, vaccines cause autism and I would never do that to a poor little kitty. Once I sell them on NextDoor, they're somebody else's responsibility to delouse.

[u/ings0c → u/Excellent-Nose-6430]

Don’t worry, there’s not really anyway to stuff kittens into tiny boxes without some of them dying, and it’s not like you could just not stuff kittens into tiny boxes.

[u/Excellent-Nose-6430 → u/ings0c]

Indigenous people have been placing things into tiny boxes throughout their entire culture. And it's okay to appropriate their culture, since my people already appropriated their land.

[u/poisonmilkworm]

I’ve heard of full grown chickens doing the thing that this moron talks about in their post— piling on eachother in a corner somewhere— and it was because they are so used to being crammed in spaces so tightly with other chickens that they can’t move, that they instinctively do that when they’re taken out of those conditions because it’s all that they know. When they’re rescued from those environments someone has to stay up all night to periodically separate them enough so that they can all breathe until they get used to having personal space.

This fHarmer said they get chickens from a hatchery so those chicks probably do that because they were crammed in boxes unable to move since the day they hatched.

They huddle together so tightly that they suffocate because it’s ALL THEY KNOW.

Breaks my heart so much 😥