I could easy expect this, since we already got support / sub dps rover twice. though maybe Hsin support, rover sub-dps and Main dps could be someone else
- between this two options I think much more profitable for Kuro to release another character main dps, so people have to pull it. Imagine pull sentinel resonator first (because it’s sentinel), then pull Main DPS for it.. because you got no other choice, lol
but we will see. in other hand I think collab is generous enough: you pull 1 character, and get her teammate free. if this works same way you pull Sentinel and then you get Electro rover like free BiS teammate would be nice… but well…rover already needed in a lot of teams. so if they do it main dps, later they will give another better main dps anyways
I hope with the sword/crossbow/shield leak he has really cool and smooth animations like Hiyuki and Zani combined. If they cook that hard (I have faith) I'll never switch to another unit again unless necessary.
tbh me personally i really hate crossbow aesthetically, especially compared to a bow, but if anyone can cook and make me like a crossbow I think it would be Kuro
My cope is Hsin will be Jinshi support and make her t0 and the next Huanlong sentinel will be the third slot for this team. It would make sense in the lore since the Huanlong sentinel was split in 7, so they working together would be cool and explain why tf Jinshi never got a support
I think the possibility of jinhsi being t0 is out the window since matrix gives her (all 1.x dps units) a flat out 25% damage buff. Like once a dev has to strong arm a unit to be viable in endgame I think it’s confirmed cooked
Phoebe recently had a 4th run, so it’s not impossible for Chisa to do the same. Granted, that was probably because Phoebe is tied at the hip with Zani, but again, a 4th Chisa run isn’t 100% impossible.
Well on the other hand they will be rerunning cartethyia 3rd time next patch without Ciaccona.... Ciaccona had 3 runs already. No idea what kuro is thinking....
True - it would’ve been fitting if Ciaccona had a 4th run alongside Cartethyia in the next patch. That said, a Ciaccona rerun was never a guarantee, so Phoebe‘s 4th run might just be an outlier (at least for now), and Chisa’s current run might indeed be her last appearance for a long while.
I believe so too. I would not pull for character just because of being scary it never rerun again - I believe it not going to happen that bad way. If they not rerun some characters it’s mostly because characters is outdated and not really needed that much at this moment. Yeah it happened once with SK maybe some people had to wait for rerun back then, but reran happened anyways
Back then at Chisa release I skip her and people tried to convince me pulling her, but even back then I understood it’s really possible that sooner or later better support will be released anyways. And since Chisa release no single regret skipping her. But I still remember how people told me “don’t cry later”, lol
if chisa needed for YangYang - they will rerun it. If not, it’s ok still can skip both. Much worse situation if grab Chisa now, and later realize that she maybe not even needed for YangYang team
Sure but those were reruns not brand new characters whose face is the games icon. Would be shitty of them to release their most hyped character only to be like "btw you're never going to have her best support because we refuse to rerun them, you really should have looked at the leaks but please pull for this character anyway".
very true. this proves that Kuro really needs to rethink their rerun schedules. we've already entered triple banner territory so I don't see why it's not possible to keep frequent reruns. Obviously fomo is the selling point but denying players options is a very bad thing
in hindsight when Chisa released, it was pretty obvious she'd be universal NS support but people didn't want to play future waves & now are complaining that everyone wants her
just call her the bis of negative status teams, feels weird calling her the "SK" of negative status teams when SK works with everyone, hence "universal", Chisa doesn't work with everyone, calling her universal doesn't really pan out.
I mean Chisa is a sustain and does provide the bare minimum of what a sustain does. In that logic, she does work with anyone. Not BiS sure but she doesn’t suddenly make the team worse but slotting her if you literally don’t have anyone else cause your SK or Verina is busy.
I do play Hiyuki but she is at S3 so kinda doesn’t need it. My problem is I won’t need another support for a long time, because I basically have a freed up SK. So I want to save my pulls for an actual team I can put together. I have a Zani-Pho-Rover, Hiyuki-Moryn, and a free SK. Don’t really need another support.
She only has 1 use in Endstate, tanking her value. Like if you want to run Hiyuko and FB Amy you have to hope Suisui works for Hiyuki and pull her just so you can use both teams.
y’know what if they’re not gonna give chisa more vigor i have no qualms over suisui being a ns support my chisa has a little too many teams she’s working with rn another one wouldn’t hurt
tbf chisa only value on release is in cartethyia team and sidegrade at best in zani team (i think srover is actl better with sweatlord). so her pull value was really low and cartethyia team can still run aerover just fine.
Well 2 of thoae are pretty recent, fusion aemeath didnt really truly come online until denia. Hiyuki works with lynae but still waiting for her 3rd bis?
And maybe stuff changed, but she wasnt a huge upgrade for cartethyia over rover?
I pulled Chisa on this go around because I'd just been loading up on too many 1st and 2nd slot characters trying to share Mornye. In hindsight I think good supports are basically unskippable the way they're releasing characters these days with multiple forms, great flexibility in team building.
Wait, not maindps Hsin would imply possible maindps ElectRover
From the wording, it looks like Hsin is either subdps or support, probably leaning on subdps with maindps potential (making it a double dps setup w ElectRover)
Please, please, please give us a new dps Rover 😭😭😭
Assuming (coping) that Hsin is compatible with Jinhsi, ElectRover may end up being Skill DMG scaling. If that's the case, Buling may be compatible with ElectRover. Rover has been predominantly Skill DMG scaling tho (Aero is completely Skill DMG scaling, Havoc & Spectro has a Skill DMG bias, too) so they may switch things up. The ideal would be for Hsin to be Lynae but for Skill DMG.
Not necessarily. It would be eminently reasonable to have a new support to free up older Rover forms so they can join newer teams in the new electro form. A two uses third slot NS support that can replace both spectro and aero Rover in Endstate Matrix is quite possible IMO.
For suisui to even work with zani you need her to inflict frazzle which i doubt is going to be the case. Even if chisa would work with zani she wouldnt have even be that much better than SK. Spectro rover pushes zani to 3.X level of damage.
Jingran pls be havoc or electro or glacio if fusion please work with Brant. Qing Xiao why another aero dps 😭 make her glacio or something. I literally have every fusion and aero dps (and supports/sub dps) in the game. My favorite attributes being fusion and aero lol. My only favorite spectro is luuk.
I love Fusion because it means Lupa works, meaning good ol mono fusion will be a reliable bet, unless they literally bake a mechanic on a character needing different attributes on the team to do damage (don’t you dare Kuro!)
Meanwhile been sitting on a fully build Lupa since her last rerun... Waiting for a Brant who's gone sailing for milk and never came back. I really hope he's gonna stay fusion. Lemme make a team for her man 😞
Chisa cycle maybe has ended with 2 reruns so it is clear that either there is a new option for newer dot teams starting from Hiyuki since she is also Glacio or Chisa should rerun again so the option to skip Chisa now can not brick your account for all remaining unlaunched DOT DPS´s.
There is no reason they will release more dot teams without a Dot healer or even rerruning Hiyuki and Lucilla 2 more times without a dot support healer being Chisa or Suisui.
Lucilla is doing the same as Suisui for ppl who did not get Qiu or have multiple Echoe DPS´s.
All I need atm is a new home for Lynae because after Lucilla and Denia rerun, she has no team.
Unless I get Aemeath, which is not a bad deal all things considered but I think Havoc Bane/Electro Flare Team will be my priority to widen the team variety. I hope one of thems a Liberation unit.
I'm gonna need a bit more info on Suisui bc wdym she's glacio, but yangyang support? also universal support? so does she maybe only buff 2 elements like maybe glacio chafe & havoc bane? kinda like how chisa's kit says electro flare and havoc bane specifically (but obv also other neg statuses)
She mentions electro rage which is a sub part of electro flare, they're not the same. Electro rage happens when applying electro flare beyond the max limit and gets consumed entirely to increase electro flare dot damage.
The mention of electro rage is to confirm its inclusion because it's separate from other dot effects, and not because chisa buffs it specifically.
Electro rage doesn't count as electro flare and is its own thing, it's like the difference between tune shifting/interfered, closely related but different, increasing the stack limit of one doesn't increase the other. Statements regarding electro flare does not affect electro rage and vice versa.
Glacio bite is like another layer on top chafe, it's stated to count as glacio chafe, any buff or statement concerning glacio chafe will affect glacio bite.
this genuinely went over my head at the time because we never got a character tailored around it so it wasnt important to understand back then.
so what do you think they mean that Suisui is bis for Yangyang but not everyone else? Maybe i'm too used to an NS sub dps only buffing their own element so its weird if Suisui would buff havoc bane but not glacio chafe. Maybe by "not all NS" they just mean not spectro frazzle or aero erosion? who knows
It's still too early to judge, making expectations is unfair imo.
My own prediction is that at least half of this is gonna change.
If I had to make a guess strictly in the scope of the post I'd say that options range from a chisa side grade for some teams because chisa is becoming the most in demand character.
Or it could be a character with its own unique negative status.
It's hard to imagine a character taking Lucilla's place so it's less probable having her as a pure glacio chafe support.
chisa should be bis for yangyang sp right? if so yangyang would likely take away both support options from hiyuki (if suisui is somehow 3rd slot for hiyuki). Idk how this would work out
Do we know if this leaker is trustworthy ? Some information seems really interesting but I don't want to hype up myself if this leaker can't be trusted.
I mean, I’m down if it means that Amy & Hyuki aren’t gonna be powercrept immediately with a new Sentinel main dps.
It would be interesting to see the first ever non main dps sentinel and if people will still have priority pulls for her despite not being the main star of the team and setting a new damage ceiling
In ToA and Whiwa, you can't use the different versions of Rover for different teams right? I wasn't too invested in Spectro and Havoc ones so I haven't checked before
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