Could Iran, Afghanistan, and Tajikstan unite into one secular republic

[u/Creepy_Gas_8305]

Could somthing like this work, with province being split ethnically and linguistically and the federal government having one official language whilst protecting regional minority languages? (I am tajik born in afghanistan and raised in iran, so i am a hardline pan iranist, just needed to know if this would actually work)

[u/koontee]

First, it means that someone should give up on power (there's no united Arabic republic for this reason). Then, it would eventually lead to uneven population distribution (big part of population moving into a single region), which is not a good idea. Also, we still have our differences. I guess the best would be confederation or some other political union.

[u/Creepy_Gas_8305 → u/koontee]

amazing username first of all, secondly, do you think that a political union between the 3 could have a "schengen zone" like border system?

[u/koontee → u/Creepy_Gas_8305]

Not now. Afghanistan is still disjointed as a nation, with terrorist groups roaming freely. 

[u/Scared_Bass5548]

No, Iranians and afghans have long not been getting along and I've heard of terrors of when people try to get through iran and I guess the racism and such. But I have heard that there is a bridge where tajiks pass through the rivers and enter Afghanistan so maybe they cool but prob would not want to be a part of one republic. But also, secular government would also be super unlikely, i think sharia is not something unnecessary or little to the Muslim majorities...

[u/blehmag → u/Scared_Bass5548]

I've also heard horror stories of the ways Afghans are treated by Iranians.

But ironically I think Iranians seem to like people from Tajikistan, even if they don't treat Afghan Tajiks well.

[u/CommercialAd1282 → u/blehmag]

That is quite funny.

[u/Scared_Bass5548 → u/Scared_Bass5548]

I also don't mean to disrespect Iranians at all but that's what I've heard . Free iran and afghanistan

[u/Weird_Material_4726 → u/Scared_Bass5548]

Unfortunately, it is very much true; it is in majority towards those with more east-asian features.

[u/Top-Permission-7524]

If the south of Afghanistan was excluded it could work

[u/theonepaladin]

Why would it be secular if all three countries are 99.9% Muslim ?

[u/tiger5grape → u/theonepaladin]

Why?

Because Islam only invaded Persia, but never really conquered us. Because medieval and early-modern Persians never lost their mother tongue; only absorbed some Arabic words and even Persianised them. Because for Iranians, more specifically for Persians, their pre-islamic identity is alive and strong, fiercely held, and will always take precedence over a religion imported by sword, used to oppress the people in this day, a religion under which name people are shot and hanged. When you use religion, or anything really, as a means of power to terrorize, traumatize, or erase people, they, in turn, tend to have an deep disdain for that very thing. That is why you'll find that most cosmopolitan, free-thinking, educated Iranians reject Islam entirely.

Does that clarify things?

[u/theonepaladin → u/tiger5grape]

That’s a completely western narrative that most don’t follow. Islam always takes lead with anything.

[u/Tajik_PJR]

An alliance between Tajikistan and Iran appears possible, whereas the situation with Afghanistan is significantly more complex. Afghanistan is currently unable to establish stable conditions, as ethnic tensions among Pashtuns, Hazaras, Tajiks, and Uzbeks have existed since time immemorial. Personally, I harbor no negative feelings toward Afghanistan; my father hails from Panjshir, and my mother is originally from Tajikistan, though she spent her childhood in Badakhshan

[u/Grouchy_Golf_9698]

No Iran is a separate country

[u/vainlisko]

It would be a long road to that level of cooperation between Persian speaking countries. Certainly it can't happen in our lifetimes, but that doesn't mean you can't work on it. Keep the dream alive

[u/vainlisko]

It would be a long road to that level of cooperation between Persian speaking countries. Certainly it can't happen in our lifetimes, but that doesn't mean you can't work on it. Keep the dream alive

[u/Large-Reindeer-8502]

No people are too different to be a country 

[u/Gullible-Fee1608 → u/Large-Reindeer-8502]

Well I mean the people living in various regions of Iran are also pretty different compared to each other but mostly identify themselves as Iranian. Why should the hypothetical scenario of one iranic country be any different?

[u/Weird_Material_4726 → u/Gullible-Fee1608]

The Afghans and Tajiks, even those who speak Dari as we do, are less similar to the average "Persian" of Iran than a Mazandarani or Azeri is. While language and culture do play a role, the peoples have had massively different experiences being separated for the past three centuries (wherein this was a time of rapid cultural development).

[u/cat_owner613]

Perhaps in a couple of hundred years.

[u/kane_1371]

I don't think whole of Afghanistan can be a part of this, the situation in Afghanistan is just bot stable, certain cities like Herat maybe, but all in all Afghanistan is in a bad situation

[u/FitDimension3582]

small dih big dreams ahh post