r/Tajikistan • u/TypicalJournalist126 • 16d ago

Any Shia Tajiks here?

Whether Born or converted, are there any Shia Tajiks here in this subreddit like Actual Practicing Muslims, i want to have a casual discussion for religion and some life advice possible.

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u/DesignerPressure9591 16d ago

Tajiks are either Sunni or Sufi. Pamiris are Shia. Most Tajik Shias (at least in TJK and UZB) are converts.

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u/TypicalJournalist126 16d ago edited 16d ago

Interesting, So it could be that my generation before me converted to Shia or im part of a really tiny religious minority then. Also for context, im a Afghan Tajik if you might wonder.

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u/DesignerPressure9591 15d ago

I have met a Zoroastrian Tajik family, so there are every kind of us.

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u/Scared_Bass5548 15d ago

Where from afghanistan are you from? Im tajik too but im a sunni from the north east in afghanistan.

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u/TypicalJournalist126 15d ago

I think according to my family, we are from Herat aka the North west in afghanistan before we migrated to Germany.

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u/Scared_Bass5548 15d ago

Ohhh so lowkey to me that kinda make sense like influence-wise (in the most respectful way ever)

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u/alii94 15d ago

Pamiris? Wow, howd did they became shias?

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u/DesignerPressure9591 15d ago

Nosiri Khusrav was prosecuted for being Shia (r maybe smth else) and ended up in Badakhshan. That's how, I think.

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u/dsucker 15d ago

We have never been Sunni to begin with

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u/Shi-LinFei 16d ago

I heard the Tajiks in Tashkurgan China are Shias, but I wonder if they are still religious at all..

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u/mim_afshar 16d ago

I,m shia from iran. Can I help you?

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u/TypicalJournalist126 16d ago

Hello, mim_afshar  nice to meet you how is it like in Iran now?

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u/mim_afshar 15d ago

I'm happy to meet you too.

Iran is doing great these days. People are full of positive energy and high morale. Every night, in the streets and squares of thousands of large and small cities, people gather, wave the Iranian flag, and stand united against the enemy, despite political differences and disagreements.

Which country are you from?

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u/TypicalJournalist126 15d ago edited 15d ago

Well im in germany right now but my family and my main family nationality is afghani or more specifically afghani Tajik. Are you using a VPN?

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u/mim_afshar 15d ago

Yeah, I’m using a VPN. Reddit has sanctioned Iran, and we need a VPN to use Reddit 😌 Soon, there won’t be anyone or anything in the world capable of sanctioning superpower Iran.

What does “Afghan Tajik” mean?

I love the Persian language all across the world. Are you Persian-speaking? Or has your family forgotten Persian?

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u/TypicalJournalist126 15d ago

Yes i'm persian speaking and my family also and Afghan Tajik (technically, Afghan originally is a synonym just for Pashtun Speaker so im just using the Modern version of the definiton of this term) anyways it means Tajik who have citizenship in Afghanistan or they came from Afghanistan and they are actually the second largest in afghanistan as a enthicity. Are you a government supporter in iran?

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u/mim_afshar 15d ago

That’s interesting. I didn’t know that point about Afghan Tajiks. Thanks for increasing my knowledge 🙏

Yeah, I support the government. Of course, there are criticisms. As long as infallible human beings (the Prophet and his family) are not ruling, there will always be criticism of governments. That’s why we are waiting for the final promised savior.

But despite that, I still support the government. And not just me — the overwhelming majority of Iranians support it.

World media outlets like BBC and others lie a lot about Iran’s political structure, my friend 🙂

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u/TypicalJournalist126 15d ago

Why do you support it?

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u/mim_afshar 14d ago

Why shouldn’t I support it? I need to have a reason to oppose it, right?

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u/TypicalJournalist126 14d ago

No just asking, the Iranian government is simply controversial  worldwide and the Western or german propaganda may have influence me to more anti iranian unintentionally. Not trying to make a debate

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u/Salty-Interaction959 16d ago

My husband is Shia and he is from Tajikistan. He is Shia convert

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u/Salty-Interaction959 16d ago

Shia revert*

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u/Ok_Bad2216 14d ago

How do you revert to shia

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u/cat_owner613 15d ago

Do you count Ismailis?

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u/TypicalJournalist126 15d ago

Technically, yes i think? Because they are tajik in nationality.

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u/cat_owner613 14d ago

Then sure. I think Pamiris are a sub group of Tajiks anyway. Also Tajiks in general being Sunni instead of Shia is a big tragedy. Sad. But also I wish we all together could revert back to Zoroastrianism.

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u/TypicalJournalist126 14d ago

Are you a Zoroastrianist in convert or like actual born into it? And whats in Zoroastrianism if i may ask

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u/cat_owner613 14d ago

I’m Tajik born into mixed Sunni and Ismaili family. Not a Zoroastrian. I just think it fits better since it’s our ancestral faith. Islam is a foreign religion that violently was enforced on us.

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u/TypicalJournalist126 14d ago

Okay, yeah Pre Islamic Tadjikistan was heavily Zoroastrianism and Islam was violently enforced on them via Conquest, so your views make sense.

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u/cat_owner613 14d ago

And now we have cucks in this country who wanna cancel Navruz because it’s “haram” apparently.

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u/TypicalJournalist126 14d ago edited 14d ago

Mostly just Strict Islamist or those loser extremist oppose it, Most Shia Muslims celebrate it and is Respected in Muslim community.

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u/ljsherri 13d ago

I met a few Twelver Shi’i Muslims when I was living in Dushanbe. From what they told me, there’s no mosque for them to go to comfortably or a wider community to engage with.

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u/TypicalJournalist126 16d ago

I'm not trying to recruit, im just writing things down if they are any Shia Tajiks in this subreddit. Sorry if it might seem that way

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u/fkarimovx 16d ago

Nope sorry tajiks are sunni and will always be sunni

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u/TypicalJournalist126 16d ago

But There are, what are you talking about?

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u/fkarimovx 16d ago

No there arent. Those are probably sadat in afghanistan😂😂🤦

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u/TypicalJournalist126 16d ago

What are sadat?

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u/mim_afshar 16d ago

“sadats are people whose lineage traces back to the blessed family of the Prophet of Islam.”

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u/mim_afshar 15d ago

According to Shi'a belief, lineage can also be passed down through a daughter. All those who are descendants of Hasan (peace be upon him) and Husayn (peace be upon him) — the two grandsons of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his family) through his daughter — are called Sayyids.

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u/Any-Mobile-2473 15d ago

In Afghanistan, there are Sadats of every ethnic group. They are supposed to be descendants of the Prophet Mohammad's family